#1
I just bought a Big Muff, and is it a fuzz or a distortion. I've heard different things from different people. Thanks in advance.
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#6
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Guitar = Bad
for Bass = Great tone for fuzz


are you serious?
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#7
well, I think I consider it fuzzy sounding.
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#9
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#10
The Big Muff Pi is classified as a Fuzz. Fuzz is defined as analog distortion. I hope that helps out.

If you like the Muff you should check out Frantone's stuff. They used to work for Electro Harmonix and have made a series of fuzz pedals based on the Muff but with obvious upgrades to take care of some of the issues you guys just mentioned.
#11
thanks
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Please forgive what maybe a noob question, but: What is an "FU"?
#12
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The Big Muff Pi is classified as a Fuzz. Fuzz is defined as analog distortion.

I've always heard it wasn't a true fuzz and therefore a sort of fuzz/distortion.
#13
Big Muff =/= fuzz. I'd describe it as somewhere in between fuzz and distortion.
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#14
Yeah, that's putting it nicely.
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#15
Yeah, it's somewhere in the middle of fuzz and disto.
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#16
The originals are fuzz but the newer ones have a more distorted sound
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#17
Sigh...fuzz pedals create distortion. It's kind of like the OD vs. Distortion pedal argument. They all do the same thing, just to different degrees and in different ways. A fuzz pedal, however, always has clipping diodes and usually a very simple circuit, both of which the big muff has. You can argue about what it sounds like, but schematic-wise, it is 100% fuzz.
#18
Its a distortion, its not even marketed as a fuzz, its marketed as a distortion, no where does it say fuzz, it doesnt even sound like a fuzz. Just a driven sound with a bit of a harsh edge.

DISTORTION RAWR.
#19
Quote by Roc8995
Sigh...fuzz pedals create distortion. It's kind of like the OD vs. Distortion pedal argument. They all do the same thing, just to different degrees and in different ways. A fuzz pedal, however, always has clipping diodes and usually a very simple circuit, both of which the big muff has. You can argue about what it sounds like, but schematic-wise, it is 100% fuzz.

This is correct. It bugs me when people get finicky about this kind of stuff. It's a kind of distortion that is very unique. Just like it says, it's a pi distortion, so that's what I call it.
#20
Quote by Roc8995
Sigh...fuzz pedals create distortion. It's kind of like the OD vs. Distortion pedal argument. They all do the same thing, just to different degrees and in different ways. A fuzz pedal, however, always has clipping diodes and usually a very simple circuit, both of which the big muff has. You can argue about what it sounds like, but schematic-wise, it is 100% fuzz.
Simple circuit maybe, but the Fuzz Face doesn't use clipping diodes, and if my memory serves me right neither does the ToneBender?
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#21
... It was first marketed as a sustainer with low distortion content


But yes, it's kind of a hybrid.
And loads of distortion circuits use clipping diodes you know... not all cascade transistor stages. DS1 in case.

The Muff gets its distortion by trannies cascading AND clipping diodes.

Nope, fuzzface doesn't use clipping diodes.
#22
All you need to know about the Big Muff is that if you like the way it sounds, who cares what it is?

I personally think it's a box of win.
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#23
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All you need to know about the Big Muff is that if you like the way it sounds, who cares what it is?

I personally think it's a box of win.

This is most right.
#24
I think I want one... there seems to be multiple versions out though... vintage? current production? american? russian?!?

What's the differences?

I think I'll just go for the current prod. American..
#25
Quote by beckyjc
Its a distortion, its not even marketed as a fuzz, its marketed as a distortion, no where does it say fuzz, it doesnt even sound like a fuzz. Just a driven sound with a bit of a harsh edge.

DISTORTION RAWR.

it sounds more like fuzz to me. Well, for playing chords it sounds like distortion, but single notes sound fuzzy. Its weird though, it kinda sounds like an overdrive with the sustain control set low. Turn it up between about 10 o'clock and 1 o'clock and its more like a fuzz. Push it further and its like more of a distortion. Thats unusual.

Also, it says in the manual of the USA muff its "the same legendary sound as jimi hendrix" - he used a fuzzbox, didn't he? is that not marketing it as a fuzzbox?
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#26
^^Marketing it as a fuzz, sure, but it doesn't sound like "the same legendary sound as Jimi Hendrix" to me.

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I think I want one... there seems to be multiple versions out though... vintage? current production? american? russian?!?
From my experience, the vintage (or even Sovtek) Muffs sound much better then the current models.
How to achieve Frank Zappa's guitar tone:
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Step 1: Buy a Gibson SG
Step 2: Insert Green Ringer, EQ, 3 dead squirrels and a microwave into said SG
Step 3: Plug in and freak the **** out.
#27
Quote by BrainDamage
^^Marketing it as a fuzz, sure, but it doesn't sound like "the same legendary sound as Jimi Hendrix" to me.

nor me, that was my point beckyjc said it wasn't marketed as a fuzz. It also sounds extremely fuzz-like on the EHX pedal showcase DVD thing that was in the box when i got mine. I think that guy uses it behind a little bit of tube overdrive, because that makes it sound even more fuzzy, as if the amp is about to break down or something.
I like analogue Solid State amps that make no effort to be "tube-like", and I'm proud of it...

...A little too proud, to be honest.
Last edited by Blompcube at Jun 4, 2008,
#28
I have a green sovtek triangle muff (in my profile) and have played the new NY Big Muff PI (actually returned to get the greenie.) They both sound great, but I think the green cuts through the mix better. So personally I do like the older muff's more - but the new one is cool too!
#29
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nor me, that was my point beckyjc said it wasn't marketed as a fuzz.
Well that went right over my head
How to achieve Frank Zappa's guitar tone:
Quote by Thefallofman
Step 1: Buy a Gibson SG
Step 2: Insert Green Ringer, EQ, 3 dead squirrels and a microwave into said SG
Step 3: Plug in and freak the **** out.
#30
Quote by Aron81
I think I want one... there seems to be multiple versions out though... vintage? current production? american? russian?!?

What's the differences?

I think I'll just go for the current prod. American..

The Sovtek is a little funkier, the American has a little more gain, and the Double can function as a vintagy overdrive on some settings.