#1
I'm ordering a Valveking 112 and I'd like to put a better speaker in it. What are some good options?


Thanks for your help.
#3
Celestion V30, Eminence Patriot or Redcoat, Mesa makes nice speakers. It all depends on what you want to spend and what sound you want.
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#4
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Celestion V30, Eminence Patriot or Redcoat, Mesa makes nice speakers. It all depends on what you want to spend and what sound you want.


The Eminence is a good choice.
If you ask me, the Celestion V30 should be avoidable in this case.
V30's only truly shine and sound good when mixed with other speakers. Otherwise they sound too tinny and fuzzy.

/Moe's opinion.
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#5
It depends what you're looking for in the amp and/or what you feel it's lacking. Once you get it and muck around with it and see what you want/don't want I'm sure we can give you a much better suggestion as to what to get. Mine at the moment though would be an Eminence Swamp Thang.
#6
Ok cool. I play a little bit of everything but I play mostly with distortion via pedal.

I'm hearing Eminence from everyone but they have a lot of models. Which is best for me?
#7
Mesa make speakers?
^ Have a look at the Swamp thang and Man O War, To be honest I'd recommend Celestion Vintage 30 but I don't the price difference over there.
#8
EVM12L Classic
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#10
I you need a good hardcore/metal sound I'd try the eminence legend, its has a nice mid hump, which helps it cut through really well
#11
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^ Who the heck would buy that? That's the biggest rip-off I've seen.
Really?

Seriously, why do you say this? I had a 4x12 loaded with EVM12Ls a way back and I thought they sounded absolutely phehomenal.
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#12
I honestly doubt they sound 4 times better than most celestions...
If you can afford it then fair enough.
#13
I couldn't afford all of them, I bought the cabinet with them installed for $400

Personally, I've never really been pleased with Celestions. Don't get me wrong, they don't sound "bad", but they don't offer a lot of headroom (Although I've yet to try their 100W model) and IMO, they tend to sound a bit compressed. Not necessarily tight, but limited almost.

The EVM12 on the other hand is very lively. Full-range of tones and it always sounds..."open" is the best way I can describe it.

If he only needs 1 speaker, its not too, too bad IMO.
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#16
Ok I've narrowed it down to:

Eminence Patriot Black Powder
Eminence Patriot Screamin' Eagle
Eminence Man O War
Eminence Patriot Swamp Thang

They all look good, help!
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#17
just out of curiousity, why do you need to figure this out now?

my suggestion is to wait for the amp, spend some time with the settings, check youtube, keep asking, and then make a decision. imho.

heck, i don't even think we know what style of music you play outside of 'disti with a pedal'.

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#18
wharehouse guitar speakers are really good i have a 2x12 loaded with them ( a cl80 and v30 ) and it sounds great .
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#19
Mostly metal, rock, alternative rock and little of everything else.

It's just that I'm certain I want a better speaker than the stock VK 112.


Any help picking between those listed would be awesome.
#20
Quote by )(yperX
Ok I've narrowed it down to:

Eminence Patriot Black Powder
Eminence Patriot Screamin' Eagle
Eminence Man O War
Eminence Patriot Swamp Thang

They all look good, help!


#21
Well how do you want to change the tone?
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#22
Whichever has the best overall sound, but like I said I'll by primarily using distortion.
#24
Quote by )(yperX
Ok I've narrowed it down to:

Eminence Patriot Black Powder
Eminence Patriot Screamin' Eagle
Eminence Man O War
Eminence Patriot Swamp Thang

They all look good, help!


maybe go to the Eminence web site and look these up...i bet there is some good detail on what each is voiced for and then you can make a decision from there.

if i read correctly, your music range is pretty broad - metal to indie maybe? so again, how would we know? are you ordering on-line?

again, i would just wait for amp and deal with this later.

also check into the Celestion V30 and the Warehouse Guitar Speaker equivo.

you have some great responses in this thread so you need to take it and run with it. YouTube maybe?

later
#25
Agreed, I will do my best to decide between them all.

Edit: Unfortunately Eminence's website didn't give a description :/.
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#26
Quote by )(yperX
Mostly metal, rock, alternative rock and little of everything else.

It's just that I'm certain I want a better speaker than the stock VK 112.


I suggest you roll your speaker budget into your amp budget, and just get a better amp. Something like a Traynor YCV 40. Or look around for something used. I get the idea of finding a used VK and dressing it up, I don't get buying a new one to upgrade. It's not like it's really anything special.
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#27
slats makes a good point here.... and sorry if Eminence site didn't have better descriptions, maybe i should have checked first before putting my foot in my mouth.

i wonder if Warehouse Guitar Speakers has good comparisons for you?

i'll be doing speaker swap at some point so i need to know too sooner or later i just don't have the answer for ya.
#28
Quote by slatsmania
I suggest you roll your speaker budget into your amp budget, and just get a better amp. Something like a Traynor YCV 40. Or look around for something used. I get the idea of finding a used VK and dressing it up, I don't get buying a new one to upgrade. It's not like it's really anything special.


Well the VK 112 seems to be the best tube amp in the price range. I'm just looking to get an overall better speaker as the only complaint of the VK 112 is the speaker.
#29
I've done some research but I can't find much differences between this speakers

Eminence Patriot Black Powder
Eminence Patriot Screamin' Eagle
Eminence Patriot Swamp Thang
Eminence Man O War
Eminence Ragin Cajun

They all cost roughly the same, can anyone help me choose?
#31
Quote by slatsmania
I suggest you roll your speaker budget into your amp budget, and just get a better amp. Something like a Traynor YCV 40. Or look around for something used. I get the idea of finding a used VK and dressing it up, I don't get buying a new one to upgrade. It's not like it's really anything special.


agreed.
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#32
I'm getting the Valveking 112 for around $350 new, is there something else better around that price?
#33
$350? Where?

Are Traynor's available around your parts like Slats suggested? Go to Trynor.com I think and find dealer locator.

Otherwise, no not for $350 new.

Also, have you read thru The Only Valveking thread and possibly posted there?