#1
Basically, I need a roughly multi-purpose condenser mic.


On Stage Stands Mic Pro Pak is the bomb ... but it's not available in Malaysia. I'm quite sure that the shipping costs and taxes will make it needlessly expensive.


So now I need something close to that price that can record vocals and instruments suitably well.

Thanks.


By the way, I'm getting a Toneport too.
#2
I know the MXL 990/991 are great and so is the Shure SM57 dynamic...
but when it comes to around $20, I've yet to see any condensers worth buying...

Here are some lower priced CMs I looked up. I would think they sound like crud but if you MUST have a condenser, a SD would probably work fair:
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/compare?base_pid=277087&base_pid=277522&base_pid=277048


The lowest price condensers I would look into are the Studio Projects B1 and MXL 990/991 set. (keep an eye on ebay)


What toneport?
the UX1 and GX dont have on board phantom for the condensers so you would need to get a small preamp with phantom such as the ART MP

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/ART-Tube-MP-Studio-Mic-Preamp?sku=180581
Last edited by moody07747 at Jun 4, 2008,
#3
Quote by moody07747
I know the MXL 990/991 are great and so is the Shure SM57 dynamic...
but when it comes to around $20, I've yet to see any condensers worth buying...

Here are some lower priced CMs I looked up. I would think they sound like crud but if you MUST have a condenser, a SD would probably work fair:
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/compare?base_pid=277087&base_pid=277522&base_pid=277048


The lowest price condensers I would look into are the Studio Projects B1 and MXL 990/991 set. (keep an eye on ebay)


What toneport?
the UX1 and GX dont have on board phantom for the condensers so you would need to get a small preamp with phantom such as the ART MP

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/ART-Tube-MP-Studio-Mic-Preamp?sku=180581



I'm getting a Toneport GX. Oh crap, really? Damn. Okay, I'll check it out. Thanks a lot, Dave.
#4
I second the Studio Projects B1. I get some great acoustic and vocal sounds from that mic.
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#5
That said, is it possible to get a multi-purpose mic that doesn't need a preamp then?

Or well, let's put it this way.

What do you suggest I get for the mic and audio interface, if I don't use a preamp?
#6
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That said, is it possible to get a multi-purpose mic that doesn't need a preamp then?

Or well, let's put it this way.

What do you suggest I get for the mic and audio interface, if I don't use a preamp?


most interfaces have built in mic pre amps. just an FYI there. and the Sure SM57 is a decent all around mic, it's mostly an instrument mic, but you can pretty good vocals out of it with some EQing.
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#7
I use an M-Audio Firewire solo...$200 and I've been happy with it, phantom power built in. Dont have enough experience with condensers to make you a recommendation though.
#8
Quote by Kid_Thorazine
most interfaces have built in mic pre amps. just an FYI there. and the Sure SM57 is a decent all around mic, it's mostly an instrument mic, but you can pretty good vocals out of it with some EQing.


But a Toneport GX doesn't have one, apparently. And I need something around that price, since my budget's being blown on a more expensive condenser mic now that I can't find On Stage Stands Mic Pro Pak in Malaysia.
#9
every interface I know of has on board preamps...or at least one.
EQ can be chanced in the software (mixing in the box)

every mic needs a preamp, only some need 48V phantom power to run.

condenser mics need phantom power
Dynamic mics dont.

I dont know why you are looking into condensers but a good dynamic should work well.
just plug it into the Toneport GX using an adapter like this:

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/American-Recorder-Technologies-XLR-Female-to-14-Male-Stereo-Adapter?sku=339525

The SM57s are nice mics but they require you turn up the preamp a lot for any type of vocals or anything like that...
I suggest something like the Sennheiser e822S if you are on a tight budget.
#10
Quote by moody07747
every interface I know of has on board preamps...or at least one.
EQ can be chanced in the software (mixing in the box)

every mic needs a preamp, only some need 48V phantom power to run.

condenser mics need phantom power
Dynamic mics dont.

I dont know why you are looking into condensers but a good dynamic should work well.
just plug it into the Toneport GX using an adapter like this:

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/American-Recorder-Technologies-XLR-Female-to-14-Male-Stereo-Adapter?sku=339525

The SM57s are nice mics but they require you turn up the preamp a lot for any type of vocals or anything like that...
I suggest something like the Sennheiser e822S if you are on a tight budget.


Okay, well I basically want a multi-purpose microphone and an audio interface. Best combination is..?
#11
Art Studio Pre & Samson CO3 or CL8. Multiple patterns really help a lot. The MXL duo isn't bad either.
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#12
Yeah I think if you're looking to spend as little as possible, you should go for a Toneport GX and dynamic mic. I havent had experience with the Sennheiser moody recommended, another option would be the Shure SM48 (The 58 is great and apparently the 48s come pretty close). So you could get:

Toneport GX: http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Line-6-Toneport-GX-USB-Recording-Interface?sku=241406 ($50)

Shure SM48: http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Shure-SM48LC-Vocal-Microphone?sku=270105 ($50)

Mic to 1/4" cable: http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Horizon-HZ-Series-Cable-Female-XLR-to-Male-14?sku=336121 (15ft for $13)

And have a passable recording setup for $113. Get a second opinion for the mic, I'm just basing that on reviews.

I would definitely consider upgrading the toneport to a UX1, $40 more but a dedicated mic preamp would be better than using the GX's 1/4" for everything.