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rolas92
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what is the best solid state combo amp?

that i can get?
my budget is 500 dollars
i play a little bit of all (metal,jazz,classic rock, punk rock) etc
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I know you hate to hear it but with $500 why get a solid state?
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I know you hate to hear it but with $500 why get a solid state?



why...not?
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If you're lucky you can find a nice tube combo on ebay instead of getting a new solid state.......won't get a whole lot but maybe you can find a Peavey Valveking for about $400
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Quote by john{ND}{NGD}
If you're lucky you can find a nice tube combo on ebay instead of getting a new solid state.......won't get a whole lot but maybe you can find a Peavey Valveking for about $400


I don't know about that, tube amps on ebay are usually a big mostly because of a high chance of shipping damage.
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Randall or Line 6 Vetta series

Show me where I can find a Vetta for $500. Tsk tsk.

Something tells me someone read the thread title but not the OP.
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Show me where I can find a Vetta for $500. Tsk tsk.

Something tells me someone read the thread title but not the OP.


First one i pulled up... $599.99 figured that is close enough give me more time and im sure i could find one going for $500 or hell you could probably talk them down to $500 lol

http://www.musicgoround.com/gear/inventorydetails.asp?id=663758
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Love Marshall MG Series ( cheaper option )..Line 6 is great as well..
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Love Marshall MG Series ( cheaper option )..Line 6 is great as well..

I hope you were trying to be sarcastic
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Love Marshall MG Series ( cheaper option )..Line 6 is great as well..


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Unbelievable. You play a Gibby LP Standard through an MG. I'll bet Eric Johnson is preparing to jump right now...
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Damn, what's up with all the trash talk of MGs in the last few years? It's blown out of ****ing proportion. I have an MG30DFX and I love it. The tone is fine; most people who trash-talk them have never played one, and only talk bad about them because they heard others talk bad about them, and in the last few years it's spread like a disease and now everyone talks bad about them.

About 5% of MGs are lemons. In this ****ed up society, that's enough to get the entire world to hate them because so many noobs out there want to be cool and trash-talk MGs. I have a suggestion: if anyone who talks BAD about MGs, tell them to shut the **** up and go play one before they trash-talk them.

I don't know much about Line 6 Spiders, but I can tel you this about MGs: The tone is fine. In fact, I love it. As for people calling them unreliable, they had to have gotten lemons because I could take mine to hell and play gospel music with it and come back and it would still be like new. Not loud enough? Kiss my dick. It's a ****ing 30 watt amp. I can't turn it up past 5 in my bedroom. A lot of the negative things you hear about them are all made up and have been spread around like a rumor. The amps are fine. They're pretty average overall, the tone is better than most solid-state amps in the price range, the reliability on most of them is EXCELLENT, and they are put together well and are plenty loud for a 30 watt.
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Marshall Mg's are of much lower quality then some of the other solid states you kinda find. MG's use cheap parts, and are contructed out of some weak wood... If your a beginner I could understand someone getting a smaller MG for a practice amp, but other then that I can't really justify it.

Vox and Randall make some good solid states. The marshall AVT series isn't that bad from what i've heard although I probably would still get a vox. They hold up very well, and the preamp tube for the gain channel does help a bit, not overly significant.

As for the tube amp vs solid state amp, typically a tube is better, but not in all cases. Solid states gain and tone will be pretty consistent regardless of volume, so something that can be played a very low volumes might sound better on a Solid state. And I know there are some pretty hardcore uber metal bands that use solid states for the amount of gain that you can get.

But unless thats all you play, I don't see why a tube amp isn't an option. B-52, peavey valveking, all in that price range. The tone is a lot better and more versatile in my opinion. I can play everything from blue to metal with my b-52. Granted i do own an attenuator to help when I play at lower volumes. And if your interested in gigging in the future (or hell even now maybe?) a tube amp will also work well, Tubes usually pump out about 50% more volume then solid states.

So a 40 watt tube amp can sound as loud as a 60 watt and sometimes louder depending on the amp.

but it all really depends on the sound you want.
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Quote by ICANSEEYOU7687
Marshall Mg's are of much lower quality then some of the other solid states you kinda find. MG's use cheap parts, and are contructed out of some weak wood... If your a beginner I could understand someone getting a smaller MG for a practice amp, but other then that I can't really justify it.



That's a good arguement, and I agree. The MGs do have sidewalls and plastic pieces on them. But the knobs, the speaker, and the overall amp is put together well and doesn't break easily.
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I played thru a MG 50 wattr and was not that impressed. Actually, my Fender Frontman sounds better and that is saying a lot. However, some people prefer Solid State so there is nothing wrong with that. If i were the TS I would be looking at possibly a hybrid in that price range and certainly the Randall and Vox options are good choices too.

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^JJ for the win again +200

i wasn't going to go there 'cause i stated several weeks ago that i was going to back off the MG comments but when i was down in mexico at an all inclusive place we did the theatre thing just about every night as it was the thing to do and the guitarist in the band that played used an MG250 and his tone sounded like....like....like....nothing was there, like he wasn't even playing a guitar. hard to explain. granted he wasn't doing death metal but this amp is not geared for good clean tone (or distorted). Distorted is worse.

after one of the shows i walked up there and asked about his amp like i was super curious and believe it or not he said: 'the tone is crushing'.

i about died laughing but didn't want to make fun of him so i complimented him etc. Too bad he didn't check here first. lol

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Quote by jj1565


Mine has no feedback or buzzing whatsoever, and I've never had any problems with strange noises or crackling. Lemons are everywhere, for all products. MGs are NOT bad amps.
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Undoubtedly, the best solid state amps IMO are:

line6 vetta series: I or II, both are good but II is a bit better. Nothing like mixing 2 amps together for some totally unique sound. Micheal Romeo used to use these.

Roland JC120: Kinda tough to find, but have amazing clean and take pedals fantastically. James Hetfield uses these for his clean sound.

Ampeg VH140 & SS140: Only available used, but have pretty good clean channel w/ built in chorus. Also, the Dist channel on this amp is godly. A lot of the death metal bands in the '90s used these. Off the top of my head is Suffocation. The Dist can also be very smooth as well as harsh, depending on how you EQ it.
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Quote by philipp122
Mine has no feedback or buzzing whatsoever, and I've never had any problems with strange noises or crackling. Lemons are everywhere, for all products. MGs are NOT bad amps.


No they aren't completely horrible, but you can get a better amp for the price.
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Hey those Marshalls aren't the worst ever. But whatever you do dont get the amp in my sig. I swear it will be like worst 125$ youll ever spend. this was my first amp too. But there are lots of these at pawn shops and there just terrible. Nothing has more buzz either. So just dont buy one of these
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Quote by philipp122
Mine has no feedback or buzzing whatsoever, and I've never had any problems with strange noises or crackling. Lemons are everywhere, for all products. MGs are NOT bad amps.


Lemme tell you little story. Back when I was a n00b looking for my intermediate setup (upgrading from a Behringer starter pack), I tried the MG, and hated how muddy it was, and how I could not get a usable sound out of it. Well you know what I bought after that? A Line 6 Spider II. THAT'S how bad the MG series is.

Obviously, the little 15 watters are not bad practice amps, but as soon as you get into the higher wattage ones, there are so many more better options than an MG.
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Lemme tell you little story. Back when I was a n00b looking for my intermediate setup (upgrading from a Behringer starter pack), I tried the MG, and hated how muddy it was, and how I could not get a usable sound out of it. Well you know what I bought after that? A Line 6 Spider II. THAT'S how bad the MG series is.


That's hilarious.

Hell, I think the Fender SP10 that came with my starter guitar sounded better than the MG.
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I reckon for a solid state amp the Roland Cube's are pretty reliable.
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MGs sounds ok but overpriced. There's lot better SS amps for lower prices compared to MGs.

Also tubes are not always the answer as there are some excellent SS amps. I have a blues jr combo and a rumble 25 combo (yea, a bass amp), guess which I like to play with a lot.

Hint: it's not the BJr.
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for 500 you could get a Peavey Classic 30

It can do any of the genres you listed (YES MINE CAN DO METAL, got them nice dark JJEL84s and i'm installing a V30 soon) but it does unbelievable for classic rock and punk. Jazz might be tough at higher volumes becuase it breaks up, but just roll down the volume

Test one of these, you will not regret it.
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Quote by philipp122
Mine has no feedback or buzzing whatsoever, and I've never had any problems with strange noises or crackling. Lemons are everywhere, for all products. MGs are NOT bad amps.

correction: the MG10CD, for a little £50 beginner amp, is not bad. For the price, its actually ok. But the MG100DFX is basically the same pre-amp circuit with the same low-quality components, just with sub-standard digital FX, a more powerful power-amp stage which is of equally low quality, and a bigger speaker/cabinet, for A LOT more money. The tone is no better than that little beginner amp.

Back to the MG10CD. Yeah, its a beginner/practice amp.

http://www.thomann.de/gb/marshall_mg10cd_gitarrencombo.htm

http://www.thomann.de/gb/harley_benton_ga5.htm

Oh look. Combine that with any cheap distortion/overdrive and you'll get the same functionality as the MG, except a much better tone, for just a little bit more money. Most people would probably buy a distortion pedal for their MG at some point anyway, realising how bad the distortion is.

Anyway, Speaking of solid state combos, I heard a Peavey Special 130 yesterday at gigging volumes, and it was nice and tight sounding. One of the best solid states i've heard. I don't know much about them though. In fact i'm not even sure if its solid state...
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It's somewhat weird that almost all of the good SS amps are little known. Usually older amps, too. Of course there are some exceptions.
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#38
try and find a second hand jazz chorus. then a nice distorsion pedal for your metal sounds. should make a good combo
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Quote by philipp122
Damn, what's up with all the trash talk of MGs in the last few years? It's blown out of ****ing proportion. I have an MG30DFX and I love it. The tone is fine; most people who trash-talk them have never played one, and only talk bad about them because they heard others talk bad about them, and in the last few years it's spread like a disease and now everyone talks bad about them.

About 5% of MGs are lemons. In this ****ed up society, that's enough to get the entire world to hate them because so many noobs out there want to be cool and trash-talk MGs. I have a suggestion: if anyone who talks BAD about MGs, tell them to shut the **** up and go play one before they trash-talk them.

I don't know much about Line 6 Spiders, but I can tel you this about MGs: The tone is fine. In fact, I love it. As for people calling them unreliable, they had to have gotten lemons because I could take mine to hell and play gospel music with it and come back and it would still be like new. Not loud enough? Kiss my dick. It's a ****ing 30 watt amp. I can't turn it up past 5 in my bedroom. A lot of the negative things you hear about them are all made up and have been spread around like a rumor. The amps are fine. They're pretty average overall, the tone is better than most solid-state amps in the price range, the reliability on most of them is EXCELLENT, and they are put together well and are plenty loud for a 30 watt.


I've played one for at least a few hours practicing with multiple bands (my 5150 wasn't working).
I thought it sounded like bees flying around in a tin can.
You're entitled to your own opinion as tone is subjective.
but I'm pretty sure anyone who has played a decent tube amp would say the MG's sound way worse.
Most people don't reccomend them because most people don't like them.
They are just bad deals.
But you like your amp and thats all that matters.
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But you like your amp and thats all that matters.

unless you're performing. then it matters what the audience thinks. even if they are drunk.
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