#1
Hey fellas,

Im a huge fan of the Knopf-man and just noticed something while watching a Dire Straits live DVD...

Knopfler is all about trademark/ signature techniques and sounds, and among my favourites is his patented volume swell (for examples listen to pretty much any Dire Straits song, but i can recommend Telegraph Road or Brothers in Arms).

BUT....

I had always assumed that he was fiddling with the volume dial on his axe, but on the DVD it seems he was doing it with just his fingers.

He may have just been using a volumizer pedal, but that seems a little gimmicky and "cop out" for a guitarist of his stature.

Anyway, its a pretty neat trick and was wondering if anyone how he does it or if he is just using a pedal.
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#2
Could be a pedal. Or since he plays fingerstyle, he could just be picking harder or softer, like lots of bass players do to be more pronounced.
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#3
Id agree with MrFlibble, using his fingers he could easily add more volume with a stronger attack on the strings.
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#4
Hmmm i dunno.....i dont see how he could get the smooth increase in volume just by plucking the strings harder or softer. Im not sure you guys knew what i meant.....the increase in volume is for the duration of only a single note......i.e, the note starts off either quiet or totally silence and builds up in a crescendo.

9/10 times his volume swells seem to be on bended notes.....maybe that has something to do with it?
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#5
There's a video on Youtube where he plays Layla with Clapton and there's a close-up on his guitar a few times when he does it. As far as I can tell he plucks the string normally, but no sound comes out, which tells me he's got a pedal, although I can't see any on the floor. Perhaps it's just small. Also, just before he plucks the string, his knee seems to drop a little, and then rise with the note.
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There's a video on Youtube where he plays Layla with Clapton and there's a close-up on his guitar a few times when he does it. As far as I can tell he plucks the string normally, but no sound comes out, which tells me he's got a pedal, although I can't see any on the floor. Perhaps it's just small. Also, just before he plucks the string, his knee seems to drop a little, and then rise with the note.


Hmmm i guess its a pedal then, even though its a bit of an unsatisfying answer ya know?

Was sorta hoping there was some sick technique out there for me to learn
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#7
^Yeah, I know. But it's the only reasonable answer I can think of, even though there is no visible pedal on the stage.
#8
So good guitarist aren't allowed to use pedals? yeah, he's probably using a volume pedal.
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So good guitarist aren't allowed to use pedals? .


No, if you look closely you'll see i didnt actually say that...
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#10
you can do it with a volume pedal or just with the knob, not that hard especially with a strat beacause of the volume knobs location. with a touch of overdrive and some controlled vibrato you can get it just like a violin.

I think Bonamassa has a tutorial on youtube
#11
yeah i do it all the time with the volume knob. i use slide too and you sound like a steel guitar player.
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#12
Oh no guys, you got me all wrong.....

i know how to do volume swells......with the dial or with a pedal.

Its just that i wanted to know if he was using some different technique.
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#13
It sounds like a pedal...but if there is no pedal and no volume knobs
to play with...my guess would be a Tweed Amplifier..Its not used
much these days with the younger crowd..but man..can it be a
powerful weapon...I went out when I was a noob and bought a
bass amp for my guitar once...It was very interesting with a strat..
but the tweed effects on it was a dream come true...I actually
got spoiled...

The volume on a tweed amp will rise and fall with your pick attack.
You dont have to pick hard enough for it to be visible either for the
dissonance to be heard..I love them for solos...out of this world...

tweed ..plus reverb..plus delay...can be awesome...
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No, if you look closely you'll see i didnt actually say that...

I was just messing with you.
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#15
I don't know about Knopfler, but Jeff Beck and Joe Bonamassa use the volume knob on the guitar. It ain't easy, let me tell you.
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I don't know about Knopfler, but Jeff Beck and Joe Bonamassa use the volume knob on the guitar. It ain't easy, let me tell you.





They're not hard at all, I use them all the time, when I cover Master of Puppeets, I play all of the first solo using nothing but volume knob swells.
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They're not hard at all, I use them all the time, when I cover Master of Puppeets, I play all of the first solo using nothing but volume knob swells.

To pull off well, and in the manner they do them, it ain't easy. Try to play the Blues Deluxe solo, and tell me how easy that is.
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To pull off well, and in the manner they do them, it ain't easy. Try to play the Blues Deluxe solo, and tell me how easy that is.


I'm pretty harsh on myself when it comes to my playing, and I feel that I do them very cleanly. Obviously doing it at faster speedswill be harder, but as far as just picking a chord and swelling it in, that's nnot hard, it's just a matter of feel on how fast to turn the knob, and for lead-ish stuff, it's also about keeping the other strings quiet.
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^Yeah, I know. But it's the only reasonable answer I can think of, even though there is no visible pedal on the stage.



yeah, there is no visible pedal on the stage.i didn' see it when i was on his concert...he played some songs while walking on the stage...like solo in sultans of swing..i dunno, maybe i'm wrong...
#21
Saw him live in Manchester a few weeks ago, (Wearing tshirt atm :P) and he uses a volume pedal

I took a few pics of his rig cos i had VIP tickets, thanks to his god of a sound man my dad knows.

Gigging in an hour or so, so i cant upload the pics, but i iwll when i get back / tomorrow morning kay?

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and he uses a volume pedal PC

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#23
I think there's another way. Which I doubt he does. You pick so precisely and fast that it sounds like your just sustaining a note (you can't tell they are picking fast). SO you that and get progressively harder when picking.
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#24
It's a volume pedal. I remember reading as much on an article about the song "Brothers in Arms". the fact he uses one, and makes such good use of it, is one of the reasons I want one so badly.
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#26
Knopfler has used an Earnie Ball volume pedal since the DS days.

One interesting thing about MK is he is left handed but plays right handed. Chet used to say that part of the reason for his great vibrato.