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Marxist theory calls for the aboliton of the state, after we have a revolution and years of socialism, commons, and group ownership.

Anarcy just calls for the abolition of the state.

If either of them worked, they would have the same result it seems?

So whats the difference?
#2
But neither of them work. So we'll never find out.

China's doing good now, with the free-market economy.
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#3
Anarchy is loved by the punk-faggots, and Communism is loved by the pseudo-intellectual indie-faggots. I'm pretty sure that is the only difference, except for how their systems are completely structured and all. I mean, Anarchy has absolutely no government while Communism has a lot of government, it is just that everything is more public and fair.

Want to know why Anarchy ****ing sucks?
South Africa.

Let's send all the punk kids who love the Sex Pistols over there and see how long they last in the cross fire of AK-47's, the damn pricks.
#4
Quote by walk the land

Want to know why Anarchy ****ing sucks?
South Africa.

Let's send all the punk kids who love the Sex Pistols over there and see how long they last in the cross fire of AK-47's, the damn pricks.


you obviously have never talked to anyone with a decent IQ level who believes in anarchy look up the anti establishment/government thread and educate yourself

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#6
Anarchy is no government. Communism is total government.
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#7
You can expect a lot of mature and informed responses on the subject in the pit.

You can actually find most of this information on wikipedia anyway.

This is way easier then me quoting every post in this thread and saying "No."
#8
Quote by mohawkkidJohn
you obviously have never talked to anyone with a decent IQ level who believes in anarchy look up the anti establishment/government thread and educate yourself


My educated response to your post is: No.
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Anarchy is no government. Communism is total government.


Communism is not totalitarian
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#10
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My educated response to your post is: No.

fine be a moron then

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#11
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Communism is not totalitarian


People see Joseph Stalin and think that's what communism is. That's only one tiny branch of it.
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#12
Quote by mohawkkidJohn
fine be a moron then


How do I do that?

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People see Joseph Stalin and think that's what communism is. That's only one tiny branch of it.


Lol, oh so his totalitarian ruling was communism then.
#13
Quote by sargasm
You can expect a lot of mature and informed responses on the subject in the pit.

You can actually find most of this information on wikipedia anyway.

This is way easier then me quoting every post in this thread and saying "No."

Actually, it's surprising, but there are very intelligent people in The Pit.
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#14
Quote by Stoner0405
Communism is genius and does work...


on paper at least...


That's a very common critique that can only be dismissed as unoriginal and glib.

PS. I'm not a communist, but I dislike it for different reasons than most.
#16
Quote by walk the land
How do I do that?


you dont have to do that because you already have by not listening to me
go look up how many Smart and Very well educated people(some with PH.d
's) veiw this topic and why they veiw it how they do

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#17
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Actually, it's surprising, but there are very intelligent people in The Pit.


Yeah, but in a thread that touches on a controversial topic you'll be overwhelmed with people talking out of the wrong orifice.
#18
Quote by walk the land
Anarchy is loved by the punk-faggots, and Communism is loved by the pseudo-intellectual indie-faggots. I'm pretty sure that is the only difference, except for how their systems are completely structured and all. I mean, Anarchy has absolutely no government while Communism has a lot of government, it is just that everything is more public and fair.

Want to know why Anarchy ****ing sucks?
South Africa.

Let's send all the punk kids who love the Sex Pistols over there and see how long they last in the cross fire of AK-47's, the damn pricks.

What the **** are you talking about? South Africa is a republic?
#19
Quote by mohawkkidJohn
you dont have to do that because you already have by not listening to me


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#20
Quote by walk the land
"I own this boat"


no

NuEmoMetalPunk owns this boat

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#21
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no

NuEmoMetalPunk owns this boat


You don't get that I was referring that quote to your arrogance, pathetic fool. Pride is a deadly sin so PM me your home address and I'll give you what should already be coming.
#23
Hay guys! Hay guys!


Why do Anarchists and Marxists drink herbal tea?


...Because proper-tea is theft!
#24
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Hay guys! Hay guys!


Why do s and Marxists drink herbal tea?
...Because proper-tea is theft!

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#25
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allow me to put that in my sig....


go ahead

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You don't get that I was referring that quote to your arrogance, pathetic fool. Pride is a deadly sin so PM me your home address and I'll give you what should already be coming.

fine PM'd

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#26
Quote by E V H 5150
Anarchy is no government. Communism is total government.


Look...
Both ideologies talk about classless society...
The difference is that in communism, this is achieved through an era of socialism, social communism and then communism, which when all past states are completely out of memory, is developed into total anarchy...
Anarchic ideology wants to demolish social classes right away, and come from a state of capitalism where private capital rules to a state of actual non-state and no classes..
which is almost impossible in real terms.
What the above guy said is wrong because if you check Marx's papers, communism in its full extend doesn't need the party or the government...
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#27
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What the **** are you talking about? South Africa is a republic?


I think that he meant Somalia
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#28
Quote by walk the land
Anarchy is loved by the punk-faggots, and Communism is loved by the pseudo-intellectual indie-faggots. I'm pretty sure that is the only difference, except for how their systems are completely structured and all. I mean, Anarchy has absolutely no government while Communism has a lot of government, it is just that everything is more public and fair.

Want to know why Anarchy ****ing sucks?
South Africa.

Let's send all the punk kids who love the Sex Pistols over there and see how long they last in the cross fire of AK-47's, the damn pricks.


Hey now, I'm one of those punk-faggots and I hate the sex pistols. I think that's generalizing a bit.
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#29
anarchism is no structure

comunisn the structure controls everything stores schools everything complete opposites

even just that one has a structure and the other is completely based on no structure what so eber makes them nothing alike
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#30
Quote by walk the land
Anarchy is loved by the punk-faggots, and Communism is loved by the pseudo-intellectual indie-faggots. I'm pretty sure that is the only difference, except for how their systems are completely structured and all. I mean, Anarchy has absolutely no government while Communism has a lot of government, it is just that everything is more public and fair.

Want to know why Anarchy ****ing sucks?
South Africa.


Let's send all the punk kids who love the Sex Pistols over there and see how long they last in the cross fire of AK-47's, the damn pricks.

south africa has a government bud...
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#31
Quote by KenMasters
Anarchic ideology wants to demolish social classes right away, and come from a state of capitalism where private capital rules to a state of actual non-state and no classes..


Not quite. Anarcho-syndicalism has the same strong focus on collectivization and whatnot that marxism does, and the amount of time in which the 'revolution' should actually take place is subject to much debate within the community. Anarchism does, however, inherently reject the idea of the dictatorship of the proletariat.

You also can't really generalize anarchism. There are different types of anarchism with different sets of values.
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Quote by walk the land
Anarchy is loved by the punk-faggots, and Communism is loved by the pseudo-intellectual indie-faggots. I'm pretty sure that is the only difference, except for how their systems are completely structured and all. I mean, Anarchy has absolutely no government while Communism has a lot of government, it is just that everything is more public and fair.

Want to know why Anarchy ****ing sucks?
South Africa.

Let's send all the punk kids who love the Sex Pistols over there and see how long they last in the cross fire of AK-47's, the damn pricks.



you have no ****ing clue what you are talking about
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#34
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Anarchism is the hate of any form of government.

Communism is a form of government.

There you go.


I really wish people would AT LEAST read the thread (better yet, read something worthwhile on the subject) before posting something like that.
#35
Quote by sargasm
Not quite. Anarcho-syndicalism has the same strong focus on collectivization and whatnot that marxism does, and the amount of time in which the 'revolution' should actually take place is subject to much debate within the community. Anarchism does, however, inherently reject the idea of the dictatorship of the proletariat.

You also can't really generalize anarchism. There are different types of anarchism with different sets of values.


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#36
The poster above me claims he is an "Anarcho Socialist" in his bio.

Socialism pertains to the government interfering in all aspects of society to create a government run market and economy, in which a free market does not exist and no businesses exist without regulation or control from the central government.

Anarchism pertains to eliminating the government altogether.

Ken, you claim that anarchists claim to be in support of eliminating all classes of society to form a capitalist government? Wtf?

Not only is that definition incorrect:

Anarchist: "One who believes in the absolute abolishment of all forms of government." -google definitions

But your statement, of "calling for elimination of classes to establish captialism" is crap.

The idea of capitalism is the individual freedom to excell and move up in the world through use of the free market system. Some people don't take advantage of that, or are unable to. Thus, Capitalism itself calls for different classes of society!

If you have a free market economy, which capitalism is based around in the first place, there is no way to eliminate the classes which divide society.


Anarcho-Socialism? Paradox.
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#37
Quote by walk the land
Anarchy is loved by the punk-faggots, and Communism is loved by the pseudo-intellectual indie-faggots. I'm pretty sure that is the only difference, except for how their systems are completely structured and all. I mean, Anarchy has absolutely no government while Communism has a lot of government, it is just that everything is more public and fair.

Want to know why Anarchy ****ing sucks?
South Africa.

Let's send all the punk kids who love the Sex Pistols over there and see how long they last in the cross fire of AK-47's, the damn pricks.


stereotyping sucks.


learn your sh*t man....communism and anarchy are beautiful ideas, but we can't make them work in our society. Why u ask? because we, as humans, are greedy and we always want more.
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#38
MY ****ed up internet ****ed again...
Listen WWALK THE LINE:

Yeah, some pretty political statements you got there...
I like punk and Indie, am i a double fag?
I also happen to be an Anarchosocialst...
Don't you get(is it really that hard?) that music and politics are two entirely different subjects in the real world?
I laso happen to like some bands(Metallica let's say or the Ramones) who add up to the capital system...
So what?
it is just music...
+There was NEVER anarchy in S.A. for ****shake!
+the Pistols never believed in Anarchy in the UK
+the Clash, who were probably the biggest Punk band ever(if not, one of the biggest), were socialists go communists...
+you're a fag yourself for calling othr people fags withiouy any proper kmowledge of what yer talkin about...
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#39
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stereotyping sucks.


learn your sh*t man....communism and anarchy are beautiful ideas, but we can't make them work in our society. Why u ask? because we, as humans, are greedy and we always want more.


The concept of greed is forced upon us by capitalism, and the idea that one human can hold power over another which is completely arbitrary and very inhuman.
#40
Quote by sargasm
The concept of greed is forced upon us by capitalism, and the idea that one human can hold power over another which is completely arbitrary and very inhuman.


Amen.

But has anyone on here actually READ the manifesto?

I sure as hell haven't.
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