#1
So I'm watching the F1 race on TV that's taking place in Montreal right now, and I was wondering if the cars are automatic or manual, and are they allowed to drive over the grass?
#2
I think they're manual, but the gear-change is on the steering wheel.

And they can drive on the grass, within reason. Like you can't just take a short cut across the grass like you can on GTA
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Manual but clutchless. Also, they dont run well on grass, they have to have a fair amount of speed or the wheels just spin.
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#5
I'm rather sure they're manual transmission.

And they are allowed to drive over the grass, but they wouldn't want to, as it would tear up the front wing, suspension, etc..
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Yeah, they must be manual. Automatic cars can't go as fast. The on board computer won't be able to keep up with the speed of the car.
#7
It's called semi-auto i think, supposedly it changes gear a few hundrethes of a second faster, but i'm not sure if there is a seperate clutch.
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Manual, the clutch and gear shift is all done with paddles on the steering wheel.

Driving over the grass isn't advisable, or allowed unless they've crashed, they can't cut corners or anything.
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Manual but clutchless. Also, they dont run well on grass, they have to have a fair amount of speed or the wheels just spin.



they do have a clutch, just not a foot operated one

and they wouldnt want to drive on the grass

i can see how formula 1 confuses americans, who clearly aren't used to the idea of racing cars turning right
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#11
its called semi automatic, cause unlike a manual where u hav to change the gears urself this one automaticaly shifs up or down, but u still hav 2 manualy tell it when u want 2 change. they work on track cars, but on the road they are pointless.
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It's called semi-auto i think, supposedly it changes gear a few hundrethes of a second faster, but i'm not sure if there is a seperate clutch.


This. There's no manual clutch, so the transmission is not technically manual. However, the gear paddles manually select the gear by cycling through them. The automatic clutch is able to disengage and re-engage in tenths of a second, much faster than a manual clutch, but the manual gear selection allows for the drivers skill in applying the correct gear to be used.
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they do have a clutch, just not a foot operated one

and they wouldnt want to drive on the grass

i can see how formula 1 confuses americans, who clearly aren't used to the idea of racing cars turning right


lol
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they do have a clutch, just not a foot operated one

and they wouldnt want to drive on the grass

i can see how formula 1 confuses americans, who clearly aren't used to the idea of racing cars turning right


haha
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i can see how formula 1 confuses americans, who clearly aren't used to the idea of racing cars turning right


Actually, they only make left turns. P'WNED!
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they do have a clutch, just not a foot operated one

and they wouldnt want to drive on the grass

i can see how formula 1 confuses americans, who clearly aren't used to the idea of racing cars turning right


Soooooo true....

manual with clutch....
and they cant shortcut their way in the grass or they'll get disqualified
#17
actually its left


in the words of jeff dunham (youtube it) "Look, they're making a left turn. I wonder whats gonna happen next!?"


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they do have a clutch, just not a foot operated one

and they wouldnt want to drive on the grass

i can see how formula 1 confuses americans, who clearly aren't used to the idea of racing cars turning right

Now that's just a cheap shot. Don't take this conversation to childish places, because you know it's not true and you're just trying to start something.
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Actually, they only make left turns. P'WNED!


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Fail.
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#21
no one races an automatic anything ever
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i can see how formula 1 confuses americans, who clearly aren't used to the idea of racing cars turning right

Jerk I get it and I'm american. Not all americans are flag wavin' beer chuggin' nascar watchin' hicks you know.
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Actually, they only make left turns. P'WNED!

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#24
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Yeah, they must be manual. Automatic cars can't go as fast. The on board computer won't be able to keep up with the speed of the car.

False.
The paddle sends a signal to a computer to change the gear. You think a human can do it faster than a computer?
The gear change happens in like 100th of a second. Much faster than any human, other than Ari Vatanen.
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Now that's just a cheap shot. Don't take this conversation to childish places, because you know it's not true and you're just trying to start something.



Ah come on mate, he's only having a laugh. Its not like we're talking about someone's death or religion here...its bloody transmissions on Formula 1 cars!
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False.
The paddle sends a signal to a computer to change the gear. You think a human can do it faster than a computer?
The gear change happens in like 100th of a second. Much faster than any human, other than Ari Vatanen.


Well then...he proves my point! Just kidding. I read my Haynes manual on my old Citreon automatic and it told me manual cars can reach higher speeds at greater velocity due to the human speeds people can reach. A computer isn't as fast. But then again this was a Citroen BX or ZX and that ain't no forumla 1 car! So your probably right.
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It has both manual gears and a clutch. Operated with flappy paddles behind the steering wheel.

And you wouldn't wanna drive it on the grass. It'll ruin the car's tyres, suspension and a lot more things. You'ld also get penalized for doing that.
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#32
On grass you get no grip and it's bumpy so could ruin the suspension and other sensitive instruments. If it is deemed you gained time by skipping a corner by going on the grass, then you can get a penalty such as a drive through or stop and go so it isn't worth it.
#33
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On grass you get no grip and it's bumpy so could ruin the suspension and other sensitive instruments. If it is deemed you gained time by skipping a corner by going on the grass, then you can get a penalty such as a drive through or stop and go so it isn't worth it.


The penalty is only given if you gained a place, they don't take time into account.

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It has both manual gears and a clutch. Operated with flappy paddles behind the steering wheel.


I'm pretty sure that they also have an automatic clutch, and the manual clutch is only used on the grid or in the pits. You can hear the clutch dis- and re-engaging during braking up to 5 times in less than half a second, much faster than a human could do it, which means there much also be an automatic clutch. Plus, i remember seeing a demo of the Ferrari paddle system in the late 90's and there was definately no manual clutch control during gear changes.
#34
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Yeah, they must be manual. Automatic cars can't go as fast. The on board computer won't be able to keep up with the speed of the car.

Automatic cars don't have much less top speed, all other things being equal, but they can't accellerate nearly as well.
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Automatic cars don't have much less top speed, all other things being equal, but they can't accellerate nearly as well.


Actually, that's not necessarily true. It's quite possible to design an automatic gear change program that would give faster acceleration, but only under certain circumstances, mainly where the engine is being pushed to the limit of its performance. Because the automatic clutching can be much faster than human clutch control, if the program is set up correctly, it would yield a few hundredths of a second faster acceleration. But it is bloody hard to get it right...
#36
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They do turn left, in nascar at least.


Thats the whole damn point. He is saying that in NASCAR they ONLY turn left. The bloody cars are designed to just work well turning left. Now stupid bloody Americans can't even read apparently.