Poll: Which would work best (see thread)?
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Fender Super Champ XD
9 32%
Fender Frontman
1 4%
Crate V-Series
18 64%
Voters: 28.
#1
As the title implies......

Should I get the Super Champ, the Frontman, or a Crate V-Series?

I play Classic Rock (60's-70's), Country, Folk, and Jazz.

I will also be gigging at coffee shops, and a few medium-sized restaurants/bars.

Which would work best for my situation? oh yeah, I also have around $300-400 budget.
#4
the crate V-series are decent, but a fender blues jr would probably be better. it might not have enough gain for some classic rock stuff, but you could always boost it with a pedal.

the super champ isn't all that great, and the frontmen are worse.

edit: a laney lionheart L5T would be even better, but you'll have to save up a bit and get it used.

i'll see if i can think of any other options, but i don't know anything else at the moment.
Last edited by The red Strat. at Jun 8, 2008,
#5
Crate V-series, hands down IMO.
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#6
Quote by The red Strat.
the crate V-series are decent, but a fender blues jr would probably be better. it might not have enough gain for some classic rock stuff, but you could always boost it with a pedal.


The blues junior definatley has enough gain for classic rock applications. I can get a yummy '70s AC/DC tone out of mine with the preamp volume at about 7-10 (out of 12). With the preamp volume all the way up I can get a sound similar to some Raconteurs or White Stripes stuff. I can even do some Black Flag that way.

TS, as far as the amps you listed, all I can tell you is do not get the frontman. They're terrible compared to the other amps you listed.
#7
Quote by The red Strat.
the crate V-series are decent, but a fender blues jr would probably be better. it might not have enough gain for some classic rock stuff, but you could always boost it with a pedal.

the super champ isn't all that great, and the frontmen are worse.

edit: a laney lionheart L5T would be even better, but you'll have to save up a bit and get it used.

i'll see if i can think of any other options, but i don't know anything else at the moment.



Nah man, the Palominos kick the crap out of the Blue Juniors as far as I'm concerned.

My friend brought his BJ over here once, and of course I had to do a side by side comparison with my Palo, and I thought the Palomino was just overall better.

It was more capable of classic rock gain, and it can get up to Sabbath-y stuff unlike the Blues Junior.

Though I will admit the cleans on the BJ were better, I still preferred mine due to their slight British voicing to them.
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#8
the tone I am looking for is more like:

Jefferson Airplane

Eagles

Stones

David Bowie

Emmerson, Lake, and Palmer

Beatles

Chicago


^ more along these lines. I'm concerned mostly about cleans, not gain. In fact I'm disregarding gain completely, since you can't you use it at coffee chop gigs, and the like. Besides, I have a good enough OD pedal (but I'm not going to say which, 'cause y'all will just flame me).

I also will be running my Epiphone Casino through this. So keep that in mind.
#9
Then, once again I might add, the red strat was right.

You'd be better off with the blues junior due to the better cleans, but neither would be able to be played clean at a gig any bigger than a coffee shop.
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#10
ok, last time....

NO LANEY, BLUES JR., OR CLASSIC 30.

ONLY THE ONES THAT I MENTIONED IN THE FIRST POST!!!!!
#11
Oops. Sorry about that.


Than I would recommend the Palomino or V-series.

They still have really nice cleans.
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#12
Your threads concerning amp purchases: OVER 9000!!!

I like to see that you finally have a tube amp in the mix, but please just go out and play them to see what you like the most. Besides, YOU are buying it, not us. Go with what your ears like the most.
Plus, you're only spending 300 bucks on an amp, just get a good tube amp in that price range. Don't expect anything to be stunning at that price, but there's plenty of good tube amps in that price range.

Now, just go out and buy one or try some out, UG can't be your ears.
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#13
calm down, man. take a chill-pill Razz. LOL

I have only tried the Super Champ and the Frontman. The Frontman sounded just as, if not better than, the Super Champ. (I'm not a fan of modelling).

They only have SS Crates down here. The SS versions sound pretty good. The guy at GC said if I liked the SS, I'd like the tube even more. Granted, but I'd have to try it before I bought it.

Sure, I could ask them to order it, but to only say, 'oh, never mind'

^that's kinda being a dick about it.
#14
Well, I say go for the V series crate.
Call me Wes.
Gear:
Fender American Deluxe HSS Strat
Chicago Blues Box Roadhouse
Bad Cat Cougar 5
1957 Gibson GA-5
Ceriatone 18w TMB Combo
Hughes & Kettner Tube Factor
Various Ibanez TS9s
Weber MASS Attenuator
#16
Quote by neptune1988
why what makes it so much better (other than it's tube)?


The V series doesn't have the lifeless cleans and fizzy overdrive of the frontman, and is just more alive than the super champ.
Call me Wes.
Gear:
Fender American Deluxe HSS Strat
Chicago Blues Box Roadhouse
Bad Cat Cougar 5
1957 Gibson GA-5
Ceriatone 18w TMB Combo
Hughes & Kettner Tube Factor
Various Ibanez TS9s
Weber MASS Attenuator
#17
ah, a real answer to a question. Not just like everyone who is like 'those are piles of **** compared to a twin reverb.'
#18
Quote by neptune1988
ok, last time....

NO LANEY, BLUES JR., OR CLASSIC 30.

ONLY THE ONES THAT I MENTIONED IN THE FIRST POST!!!!!


Too bad, I think the Fender Pro Jr. would be better than any of the amps you're looking at for what you want to play. Great amp to pair with a Casino.

As is it, I voted V18.
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#21
Quote by neptune1988
ok, last time....

NO LANEY, BLUES JR., OR CLASSIC 30.

ONLY THE ONES THAT I MENTIONED IN THE FIRST POST!!!!!


and no reason to yell at people (all Caps is considered YELLING) when you box yourself into a corner with a poll that has a Hybrid, a Solid State and Tube amp and then folks try to help with other suggestions. Just take it in stride.

and did I mention do NOT get the Frontman, i have one and it was a waste of money. it is now a $400 amp stand for my Peavey Valveking lol.