#1
yeah so a few months ago (actually, many months ago) my moms boyfriend who works in a salvage yard found an Esteban acoustic guitar in a case, with some strings, a strap, a cd
the only sad part is that since the car was in an accident (which is why it's in the salvage yard) so it's split right at the neck
it's a nylon string, and other than being split at the neck, it's in good shape. only the 12th fret fell off, and my cousin suggested making it fretless. i'm questioning it.
we really have nothing invested in it, so we're thinking of putting the neck back on with some wood glue. would using would glue be a good idea or is there something else we should use?
yeah and the 12th fret fell off, but we still have it.
but in repairing it, would we just put the neck on, then put the fret back on?
below are some pics of the wreckage.


the entire thing from a distance and my foot


where the neck meets the body, and Esteban's signature


more neck meeting the body, from an angle though


the headstock


the bridge


the neck

yeah so thats the damage. like i said we have like nothing invested in this thing so we might as well try to fix it up
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#2
You could do quite a few interesting things with this. Ever play a classical with a maple fretboard? Try a different style of bridge, too.
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#3
never really played classical, or a nylon string
different bridge you say? any suggestions?
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Maybe something like one of these?





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actually, at the moment i'm more interested in just getting it to play, so i may or may not change the bridge later.
and i have a question about if i was going to make it fretless... would i remove frets before putting the neck back on, or afterwards? and....how do you make a guitar fretless anyways...never done it before
plus the idea popped in my head about making it acoustic electric, but like the bridge, i just want to be able to play it first.
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actually, at the moment i'm more interested in just getting it to play, so i may or may not change the bridge later.
and i have a question about if i was going to make it fretless... would i remove frets before putting the neck back on, or afterwards? and....how do you make a guitar fretless anyways...never done it before
plus the idea popped in my head about making it acoustic electric, but like the bridge, i just want to be able to play it first.

You'd need to fill the gaps with a non-compressible material, like epoxy, plastic, or solid wood.
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#9
tite bond you say? ok then
but on the 2nd picture, a chip of the 12th fret is missing, what should i do about that?
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#10
Connect Four in the last picture you posted? Anyway, it looks really nice. Do you know how to make it acoustic-electric? It would be awesome. I don't know that a maple fretboard would look good on it but maybe a slightly lighter wood. Good luck
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#11
yeah i had to use something to keep the case open, because it wouldn't stay open for pictures, and that was the closet thing.
i'm not sure how to make acoustic electric, but i was definitely thinking about it.
still wondering what do to with the 12th fret in picture two, considering the huge chip in it

EDIT: we dont have that peice of wood the chipped off the fretboard, and also, and i'm wondering...can you have a fretless nylon string acoustic? this site for defretting said that after your done, you may need to ajust your truss rod, which i'm pretty sure this doesnt have
i dont really know much about defretting, or nylon string acoustic guitars
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#12
You could put an acoustic pickup in it or you could use a piezo element to do basically the same thing for a lot less. The piezo may need a small preamp though. There is a really good thread about installing piezo elements into acoustic guitars. Linkage.
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#13
looks like you need a new fretboard!
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#14
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we'd like to try to keep this one, unless this one killed beyond repair. does it look unrepairable?

and i've tried to place the neck back on (like a puzzle peice), and it can fit it, but their is a huge gap where the 12th fret was.
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Exactly, if i were you id figure out the scale length and get a new fretboard, possibly a preslotted one if you've never done it before.

Im not sure about how to remove the old fretboard though.
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Exactly, if i were you id figure out the scale length and get a new fretboard, possibly a preslotted one if you've never done it before.

Im not sure about how to remove the old fretboard though.


would one of these work from Warmoth work (although it doesnt have frets =[)
or did you have some other place in mind?

EDIT: I checked out the guitar some more, and it doesn't have a model number or anything.

EDIT Again: I'll try to get some pictures up tomorrow, finals will be over by then so less i have to worry about
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#17
great news! i'm out of school for the summer, and i've got some new pics of the gap at the 12th fret
bad news! the gap is huge! the gap at where the 12th fret use to lay is .090 inches
here are some pics, i tried to place the neck on like a puzzle peice


guitar from a distance, cribbage board holding the case open


the gap at the 12th fret


closer up of the gap at the 12th fret


a crack where the neck meets the body


closer up of the crack


part of the wood that is kinding off peeling off i'd say


the fret


close up of the fret


closer up of the fret

so would i just put like epoxy where the chip of the neck is missing, or something like that?....and what should i do about the huge gap at the 12th fret?
lots of questions....
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#18
anyone know how i should fix the supermassive gap at the 12th fret? i don't think the fret is .090 inches wide.
or would i do what walker-rose said and try to find a new fretboard?
and where would i get one that would fit an esteban nylon string acoustic like this...
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#19
random question. how would i remove the fretboard, like walker rose suggested, and where could i find another one to replace it?
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#20
so i measured the distance between the nut and the bridge, and it ended being 25 5/8th inches, but this is just when i placed the neck back in like a puzzle piece.

So i figure to keep the neck in place, i'd just use tite bond, and i figure it'd be good to find a new fretboard, because the other one is...well....shattered. anyone know a place where i could get a (preferably preslotted and in the US) fretboard for a guitar like this?

I'm pretty sure the normal scale length of this is 25.5 inches. the fretboard is like 2 inches at the nut, and about 2.5 inches where the neck meets the body.

So does anyone know how i would get the scale length down from 25 5/8" to 25 1/2"? I have noticed when i put the neck back in place like a puzzle piece, it's EXTREMELY WOBBLY. Please help me out here with this.

Edit (two seconds after i posted it): The neck has 19 frets i believe.
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#21
alright so i figure that i'll need to remove the current fretboard, and probably make a new one. one of these stewmac blank fretboards would work if i shaped it right, right? and yeah, i'd have to do the fretting myself, but what tools would i need if i wanted to do this?

stuff like neck width and scale length were on the last page. i just figured to place the neck back on i would just use some tite bond, right?

i'm just trying to make sure that i'm not doing something wrong, so i dont screw up the guitar.
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#22
Stewmac should have all the fretting tools you need.
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#23
for fretting tools, would this essential fretting tool kit be basically all i need to make a new fretboard?....along with some fret wire of course, and the wood for a fretboard.
wow tools are expensive....
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#24
I've dealt with this before, sort of.
I got a old barely playable very ****ty steel string, ripped the whole fretboard off (worst fretboard i've seen, plywood, painted black with multiple dead frets) with chisels, came off pretty smoothly, sanded the areas that had glue remaining,

made a new fingerboard (fretless) from a piece of red oak flooring (wasnt very hard, used a band saw and just traced width and depth and sanded when it was glued on)

so its now a fretless classical and sounds good (i should replace the bridge though as steel string bridges don't work well with nylons)
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#25
i was just thinking "take the fretboard off, put the neck back, make a new fretboard, put the fretboard on, do other various needed work". but how did you take the old fretboard off?
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