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#1
Okay, I realise that this post is going to be viewed with a large amount of skeptisism due to the general nature of The Pit, but please try to make helpful suggestions.

My friends and I are all christians. We meet up every Sunday night (unorinigally called Sunday Nighters) and our youth leader does some teaching and my friend and I lead the worship.

Now one of my best friends, lets call him Steve, has been having troubles with his girlfriend, lets call her Sandy. They have been going out for about 3 years now (long time for teenagers) and have often had ups and downs, as all couples do. But recently, its become evident that Steve is becoming increasingly hurt by Sandy's constant going out to parties where her idea of fun is to get hammered.

Last night, at one of our meetings, Sandy was acting very strangley (she has been prone to being quite open to listening to God and has prompted many actions such as cleaning up the neighbourhood and such) with a sort of wide-eyed look and very distant actions. She went up to people, at first trying to guess their middle names (although she knew most of them, which brings attention to the fact she got most wrong) and spoke to people in a kinda external voice. She mainly told people how to solve some of their personal issues that they had been struggling with, and later they texted her saying they were thankful for that.

After she had spoken to someone, she 'woke up' and explained how she couldn't remember the last 5 minutes or so. Odd. However, when she talked to Steve later, she didn't help him, but just said 'You need to make a decision for yourself' (as to whether he wants to continue going out with her despite the hurt).

It was as if something was speaking through her, she was talking as if she wasn't in control. She also replied to a worried friend's text saying 'The lord is with her as I am with you, Sandy is fine'

Also, she realised at one point that she HAD to speak to Steve's dad (Steve's mum was there as well, just to cover Child Protection etc). Steve's dad won't tell us what she said, and had a hour long chat with Steve essentially locked in the car talking about everything he and Sandy had... been up to as it were. Uncomfortable I can imagine.

Now me and Steve can only really see two reasons for her strange actions.

1) She was having some kind of mental episode, but this seems very unlikely as she is normally a very mentally strong girl and has never had problems in the past
2) She was having some sort of 'religious experience' where 'something' was talking through her to help people through their problems, apart from Steve. This seems the more likely of the two as she has been very open to talking to God and getting messages back, although, this is obviously harder to believe as it goes beyond normal logic and as the skeptics will probably say, is impossible.

What I am asking you is, do you have any sort of idea as to which one probably happened? Any advice as to what to do?

Thank you UG, I know you can deliver


EDIT: now in religion thread
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#2
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1) She was having some kind of mental episode, but this seems very unlikely as she is normally a very mentally strong girl and has never had problems in the past


This means nothing.
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#4
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This means nothing.


... good point
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wheres the sig button??

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#6
Does it really matter? Sandy's going to be burning in hell for drinking alcohol anyway.
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#7
I lol'd.
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#9
Lol you silly religious people
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#10
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... good point


You might want to have a talk with her. Ask her why she does these things.
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#11
Crucify her NAOW.
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#12
Quote by aleb

Last night, at one of our meetings, Sandy was acting very strangley (she has been prone to being quite open to listening to God and has prompted many actions such as cleaning up the neighbourhood and such) with a sort of wide-eyed look and very distant actions. She went up to people, at first trying to guess their middle names (although she knew most of them, which brings attention to the fact she got most wrong) and spoke to people in a kinda external voice. She mainly told people how to solve some of their personal issues that they had been struggling with, and later they texted her saying they were thankful for that.



Well if the thing that was talking through her knew all about everyone's problems, why did he not know their middle names?
#13
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You might want to have a talk to her. Ask her why she does these things.


She has no major recollection of what she did or what she said, only that she went over to people to start talking with them, then the next minute walked away

Oh yeah, and to the people making jokes, very funny and all that, but this is kinda important to me and probably many other people so I think you should maybe have a decency to 'go and lol' at something else

EDIT:
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Well if the thing that was talking through her knew all about everyone's problems, why did he not know their middle names?


This is a very interesting point, I have absolutely no idea, hence I ask the pit
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#15
i agree with above poster. If the said girl was possessed by a higher power or being used by a higher power, wouldnt they have enough godly knowledge to know middle names?
#17
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Was she high?


She doesn't take drugs or drink by herself or anything

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i agree with above poster. If the said girl was possessed by a higher power or being used by a higher power, wouldnt they have enough godly knowledge to know middle names?


She always guessed people middle names just as she started talking to them, I don't know, maybe it was the passing over from her to God? She was slightly aware of asking people their middle names
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i know this sounds stupid but...
wheres the sig button??

(sry)


Last edited by aleb at Jun 9, 2008,
#18
she's pretending to be posessed by lucifer...
check for moles that look like '666'

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She has no major recollection of what she did or what she said, only that she went over to people to start talking with them, then the next minute walked away


Yeah that's never a good sign. Was she under any influence?

EDIT: Ok, no. In that case it's likely a problem related to her brain.

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Oh yeah, and to the people making jokes, very funny and all that, but this is kinda important to me and probably many other people so I think you should maybe have a decency to 'go and lol' at something else


It's the pit; nelson mandela could make a thread urging everyone to do an effort towards reducing apartheid politics in some countries and everyone would post a photoshop of him with a melon hat.
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#23
Could be stress. The stress of the relationship could have resulted in a minor episode.

AP Psych FTW.
#24
it might have been some sort of epieptic fit, they can lead to hallucinations, visual and auditory, and she didn't remember it to well after, from what I read
#25
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It's the pit; nelson mandela could make a thread urging everyone to do an effort towards reducing apartheid politics in some countries and everyone would post a photoshop of him with a melon hat.


I know, isn't it depressing?
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i know this sounds stupid but...
wheres the sig button??

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#26
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Yeah that's never a good sign. Was she under any influence?

EDIT: Ok, no. In that case it's likely a problem related to her brain.


It's the pit; nelson mandela could make a thread urging everyone to do an effort towards reducing apartheid politics in some countries and everyone would post a photoshop of him with a melon hat.



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#27
She is the big JC! I know its wrong to make fun of peoples religions but that is just so ridiculous! In what kinda religion does everyone's second name?
#29
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It's the pit; nelson mandela could make a thread urging everyone to do an effort towards reducing apartheid politics in some countries and everyone would post a photoshop of him with a melon hat.


Do you have this photo?

I'd like to see it...
#30
She's probably crazy, that or she's using god as a way to get Steve to quit complaining about her drinking (in which case she's both crazy and a bitch).

Steve should just bail out of the relationship, because it doesn't seem to be going anywhere, and now she's playing mind games with him for her own enjoyment. ...I feel weird typing this because my name is Steve.
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#31
elaborate break up she just set up there
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#32
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I know, isn't it depressing?


Slightly.

Talk to her about it. Maybe it's stress or something worse.

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Do you have this photo?

I'd like to see it...


Maybe

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#33
Im not very religious but im very intersted in experiences. My best friend has become very religous in the past few years, and has told me about 'speaking in tongues' etc. I completely believe him and im very intersted in other evidence of religious experiences.
The only possible explanation is that people can somehow convince themselves and their bodies that they are with God, but i am sceptical of that explanation.
I cant really see any 'logical' explanation, sorry.
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#34
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It's the pit; nelson mandela could make a thread urging everyone to do an effort towards reducing apartheid politics in some countries and everyone would post a photoshop of him with a melon hat.

^That's quote is begging to be sigged
#35
Attention seeking springs to mind to be honest. Also you should not have jumped to the conclusion her actions are based on religion. There is a lot more to think about which could be the cause of this.
Seems to me like its her way of gaining attention from a boyfriend she's ready to break up with to test him.
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#37
Wow, disrespect much?

Anyway, ok, its very possible that she was having some kind of channeling experiance

Or that god revealed things to her that she couldn't handle conciouslly, so her subconcious took over to avoid her brain from shutting down

^last one was a complete guess
#39
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before you make any big assumptions test her for drugs.seriously.

yea just because you say she doesnt do drugs and that she doesnt drink by herself or anything doesnt mean that she hasnt started doing one or both.
#40
Okay, thanks for the comments, here are some replies:

1) test her for drugs/ she was tripping balls/ psycadellic drugs

You know those kinds of people that may drink a bit but would never do drugs? Sandy is that kind of person

2) attention seeking/ guilt trip

Sandy is one of THE nicest people I know and would never do something like that to Steve. Plus, most of the things she spoke about were faith related

3) stress

It may well be stress, but I think it would be unlikely as what she has said to people has really affected them in a good way and some people's faiths have been like increased because of her help

4)nelson mandela pic

lol
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wheres the sig button??

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