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#1
ok pretty much, im in a metal band and my band will likely have gigs by the end of the summer. i need an amp capable of being heard at small gigs.

reccomendations

try to keep it under 500-600$
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#2
Well, 300W of power should be a good target. Otherwise, what sort of tone do you like?

You have a budget that allows you to go and try plenty of amps, of which only one or two may appeal to you.
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ashdown mag's pretty much suit anythin really, and their combo's are reasonably priced
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not in that price range your not gonna get an amp. I'd say classic 30, VK, traynor, maybe bugera or carvin, prolly a few others. my recomendation is a tube amp somewhere in that price range
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ok so based on reviews and reccommendations it looks like im saving for an ashdown mag, but another quick question
when it comes to bass, is it like guitar where amp is 85% of tone/sound over the instrument or is the instrument more vital?
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yeah, sorry about that guys, my mistake. i'll see if I find the amps some of my friends and bandmates are using though and recomend those
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#12
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/GallienKrueger-Backline-600Goldline-4x10-Stack?sku=486004 -friend and very experience bass player of another local band uses this, sounds great, if your willing to pay the extra money for it

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Ashdown-MAG-C410T300-Combo-Bass-Amp?sku=485034 -used by the same person as the first one and was his first one i believe. It was a pretty descent one with good sound quality, but isn't as loud obviously
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#13
i know i don't know much if anything about bass, i play a little in my band and others if they need me to fill a spot. but i don't have much experience with a wide rage of equipment
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#14
With bass, I can see the instrument mattering a little more, because bass is played clean more often. But the amp is still a good 80% of the tone. If you guys are gonna be playing loud, then I would suggest going even a little over 400 watts. Reason is that you'll have to cut in a few places so you don't muddy up the mix, so you'll need a bit more volume. Ashdown MAG is a big contender, Carvin is a big contender. I suggest you stay away from GK's Backine and Goldline stuff, it doesn't have the best reputation. Might wanna give Peavey a look provided they make a big enough amp. Its an iffy price range. Its expensive enough where you have fewish choices in loud enough combos, but not enough money for a stack.
#15
well the 2 amps im favoring the most are the GK backline and ashdown mag, thanks ziggy

but im also considering a marshall mb(if theyr better than the MG) and a hartke vx3500
and indianrockstar, can u specify as to why the GK backline isnt good?
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well the 2 amps im favoring the most are the GK backline and ashdown mag, thanks ziggy

but im also considering a marshall mb(if theyr better than the MG) and a hartke vx3500
and indianrockstar, can u specify as to why the GK backline isnt good?


marshalls fail, they blow up..... recently lol
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#17
What kinda metal tone are you looking for? If you want the super bass sound then I'd suggest getting a 2x15 PA sub as a cabnet! It will sound muddy but that does have its place in metal in my opinion.

Though not all metal bass sounds like that. I know. :P
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#19
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What kinda metal tone are you looking for? If you want the super bass sound then I'd suggest getting a 2x15 PA sub as a cabnet! It will sound muddy but that does have its place in metal in my opinion.

Though not all metal bass sounds like that. I know. :P


tbh, i know near nothing about bass tone, all i know is a need sumthing that sounds tight, crisp and punchy while in drop C (i use a pick only, if that helps at all)
im looking for that rex brown(pantera), john campbell(lamb of god), johnny christ(avenged sevenfold)- type sound
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#20
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tbh, i know near nothing about bass tone, all i know is a need sumthing that sounds tight, crisp and punchy while in drop C (i use a pick only, if that helps at all)
im looking for that rex brown(pantera), john campbell(lamb of god), johnny christ(avenged sevenfold)- type sound


Im not sure how good they are for metal but MAGs are good amps for the price it would probobly be well worth trying one out.
#21
ok i just got back from guitar center and i will NOT be purchasing a gallein kruger backline 600. it was way too "tinny" sounding for me, but i really like the ampeg ba115 i played. is 220 watts enough power?
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#23
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It depends. Do your gutiarists turn it up to ELEVEN? if so than probably not.

Though if nobody has any big egos with volume, then yeah it will be.


no but my drummer is a beast
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#24
Rex Brown uses Ampeg, but ive managed to get his sound with an ashdown, the tone depends on your bass as well. personally i like the ashdown, great heavy tone, and the EQ is awsome on that.
#26
most small venues would allow me to mic up my amp right?
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#27
I've never seen a small gig where they mic a bass amp so unless you have some bad or strangely awesome sound guy i doubt they would mic the bass amp.
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#28
Honestly dude, you probably need an Ampeg cab and a head with about 400W. I've played lots of bass amps, and I've found that almost anything else is a waste of money, for many reasons. The main reasons for going with the Ampegs are:
They sound great.
They are sturdy as... as a castle! I slid my 8X10 down a flight of stairs... one wheel broke, thats it.
You won't need to buy another amp later down the line.
If for some reason you want something else, they have great resale value.

I would suggest not going with the BA115 because of the lack of tonal range... lots of low end, but not a lot of clarity... I think they make a BA210 if you're still in the market for a combo though.

Other than that, Line 6 makes a 300W combo that might do the trick as well, and it has a very nice clean tone and a built-in tuner. It also tilts backward to aim the volume more toward your ears.

Good Luck!
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Honestly dude, you probably need an Ampeg cab and a head with about 400W. I've played lots of bass amps, and I've found that almost anything else is a waste of money, for many reasons. The main reasons for going with the Ampegs are:
They sound great.
They are sturdy as... as a castle! I slid my 8X10 down a flight of stairs... one wheel broke, thats it.
You won't need to buy another amp later down the line.
If for some reason you want something else, they have great resale value.

I would suggest not going with the BA115 because of the lack of tonal range... lots of low end, but not a lot of clarity... I think they make a BA210 if you're still in the market for a combo though.

Other than that, Line 6 makes a 300W combo that might do the trick as well, and it has a very nice clean tone and a built-in tuner. It also tilts backward to aim the volume more toward your ears.

Good Luck!

well unfortunately, the Guitar center near me doesnt have a huge variety, and the only 1 i played and liked was the ba115. theyre having a "moving sale" soon so if i wanna b able to afford it i wont have much of a choice. i need to try to play other stuff

also, w/ the 15 watt amp im currently using, im able to cut through a little bit, so i figure have that much more wattage i shouldnt have to keep it on 9 to b able to b heard. i could keep it on 6 or 7 and b audible
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#30
if your local music shop doesnt have huge choice try going on youtube to listen to different brands tone. ashdowns are ok but i personally find them dull and wolly, if your looking to play slap then tbh ashdown probably arnt your best bet, although im sure some people will contest they've found a great slapping tone on a ashdown.GK and Hartke offer a brighter tone which helps to cut through but as you said before some find it 'tinny'.
depending on the amp you dont really want to be pushing it upto 7!as you'll lose the amps tone and itl just turn into a distorted fart noise!
do you mind buying used?as you can find bargains second hand on ebay etc but be careful buying used cabs as its easy for previous owner to mess them up.are you looking to buy a combo, or seperate head and cab?
btw johnny christ from a7x uses a GK 1001RB head i think, or a 2001rb. GK backline models are the worst they do, so dont use that as a measure of how good GK are. i recently saw a GK 700rb with a 1x15 cab go on ebay for £250 so thats about $500. but stuff is generally a ripoff here compared to america so you could probably find a used GK700RB with two cabs for around $600.which if you get the correct cab ohm n stuff will give you either 430w if you get the rb mk1 or 530w if you get the rb mk2.
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if your local music shop doesnt have huge choice try going on youtube to listen to different brands tone. ashdowns are ok but i personally find them dull and wolly, if your looking to play slap then tbh ashdown probably arnt your best bet, although im sure some people will contest they've found a great slapping tone on a ashdown.GK and Hartke offer a brighter tone which helps to cut through but as you said before some find it 'tinny'.
depending on the amp you dont really want to be pushing it upto 7!as you'll lose the amps tone and itl just turn into a distorted fart noise!
do you mind buying used?as you can find bargains second hand on ebay etc but be careful buying used cabs as its easy for previous owner to mess them up.are you looking to buy a combo, or seperate head and cab?
btw johnny christ from a7x uses a GK 1001RB head i think, or a 2001rb. GK backline models are the worst they do, so dont use that as a measure of how good GK are. i recently saw a GK 700rb with a 1x15 cab go on ebay for £250 so thats about $500. but stuff is generally a ripoff here compared to america so you could probably find a used GK700RB with two cabs for around $600.which if you get the correct cab ohm n stuff will give you either 430w if you get the rb mk1 or 530w if you get the rb mk2.


wow dude thanks! and id like to avoid buying used if i can help it and i dont wanna buy b4 i try, again if i can help it. but ill check out the GK u were talkin bout
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#32
ok so if i end up getting a GK 1001rb(or any other high output head), what would b a good cab to match that w/?
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#33
ok on ebay, i found a hartke ha3500 head, hartke vx410 cab and fender p-bass w/ a bid at 400$, it ends at approximately 9 PM eastern time, i need all the advice i can get. please help me!
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#34
come on people, this would be a big investment for me.

help please!

ok i need to know sumtime b4 8 PM eastern, b/c unless any1 tells me its bad, i wont get it

this is the description "You are bidding on a Fender Standard P-Bass with SPB3 Seymour Duncan Basslines pickups, a Hartke HA3500 head and a Hartke VX410 cabinet.

All of the equipment has cosmetic damage only but work perfectly. There is minor hardware rust on the head and bass that can be cleaned off. One slider on the head's graphic EQ is missing but still works and there are nicks in the bass here and there.


This setup sounds great together and has been great from every situation from the studio to medium sized clubs"


help
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#35
i really dont wanna nag, but bump
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#36
to the TS if u kinda want that treble tone rex gets, u want to pick down low, not near the bridge and use light gauge strings. and if ur saving up around 500 -600 bucks i would try to save a few 100 more and get a half stack imo that would prob be better later on

Edit: Near the bridge i meant
#37
that sounds like a pretty good deal i would invest in it. is it a made in mexico percision? ive heard bad stuff about them but ive never played one and i like hartkes they give nice low end with good highs so every notes heard
#38
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Im not sure how good they are for metal but MAGs are good amps for the price it would probobly be well worth trying one out.


My Ashdown sounds incredible with that type of sound dialled up, can get it using fingers, so with a pick it would be brutality.

Go for the Ashdown.
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that sounds like a pretty good deal i would invest in it. is it a made in mexico percision? ive heard bad stuff about them but ive never played one and i like hartkes they give nice low end with good highs so every notes heard

yea i bought it, its a MIM fender p-bass

i cant wait to get this stuff!

im gonna put the bass for sale unless i LOVE it
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#40
how much you get all that for? in england all that used would come to £600/$1200 at the least!
generally mexican made basses get bad reviews because of the pickups they originally come with, so as it comes with SPB3 Seymour Duncan pickups should sound great!
one thing worth mentioning though is although the hartke ha3500 is 350w@4ohms you'll only be getting 250w because the cab is 8ohms, but add another 8ohms cab and you'll be getting the full 350w@4ohms.
pm me if you got any questions about ohms because i know there confusing as hell!
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