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#1
does anyone else agree that he has a wonderful voice, but is waisting his talent on scream-o ****?
#2
Oh boy. Fail.
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#3
howard jones sucks.
try another forum.
it's Killswitch Engage.
it's spelled 'wasting'.
do not say 'wonderful' in the metal forum.
Die.
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#4
what he said ^

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#5
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howard jones sucks.
try another forum.
it's Killswitch Engage.
it's spelled 'wasting'.
do not say 'wonderful' in the metal forum.
Die.





In all seriousness, wrong forum. Nice try though.
#6
Quote by dr.rock666
does anyone else agree that he has a wonderful voice, but is waisting his talent on scream-o ****?


Alright, I'll dissect this.

- No capitilization
- Lack of grammar
- "Waisting"
- Giving him credit where little credit is due
- Wrong forum
- Screamo is NOT A GENRE.


Remember that, you twats...screamo is just a word...not a genre.
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Quote by eggsandham2
cuz ppl hate how power metal they are cuz they think its "gay" or w.e, which is immature and dirogitory
#7
wrong forum

howard is good at both let him do both

who cares what you say

now gtfo
I am me. Live with it.
#8
Lol, I clicked on this and it said one reply and I look and like four people all replied at the same time. Also, fail GTFO, seriously can't you guys learn how to read and look around before you post. I mean honestly do you see anything even remotely resembling KSE or any other metalcore bands on the front page?!?!
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#9
he does have a good voice, but its nothing amazing, half the people that listen to KILLSWITCH ENGAGE because he is part black
#10
Fuck this
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#11
I will admit I like some KSE because I listened to them when I barely stared listening to metal, but quite honestly they're nothing special. They're decent for the occasional listen, but meh.
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#12
Quote by The Virtuoso
I will admit I like some KSE because I listened to them when I barely stared listening to metal, but quite honestly they're nothing special. They're decent for the occasional listen, but meh.

+1 couldnt have said it better
#13
Quote by DeAd-RiP
wrong forum

howard is good at both let him do both

who cares what you say

now gtfo


He is horrible at both.
A heathen, conceivably
but not,

I hope,
I’m not ashamed to be white
Vi doede ikke... vi har aldri levd
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Civilization is unnatural

It is a whim of circumstance
an unenlightened one
#14
Quote by Slaytanic1993

- Screamo is NOT A GENRE.
Remember that, you twats...screamo is just a word...not a genre.

Your fucking retarded
https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/forum/showthread.php?t=652987

Screamo is a musical genre which evolved from emo and hardcore punk in the early 1990s. "Emo" and "screamo" are essentially meant to describe the same style of music, changing with the progression of bands and fans. Characteristic of the genre are "loud-to-soft" (sometimes chaotic) dynamics, harmonized guitars with fast-paced riffs and twinkly melodic breaks, frantic/abrasive shouting or screaming, angry/abstract/introspective lyrics, low-end production, and exceptionally energetic live shows. Screamo bands also tend to bury the vocals in with the other instruments and use more arpeggiated progressions, dynamic and time changes. Breakdowns in screamo songs are often slower and quieter than in other genres, though there is a tendency of still screaming during the soft parts.
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#15
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I love how that quote says right in there " are essentially meant to describe the same style of music "
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cuz ppl hate how power metal they are cuz they think its "gay" or w.e, which is immature and dirogitory
#16
Quote by Slaytanic1993
I love how that quote says right in there " are essentially meant to describe the same style of music "

Except theres a clear difference between Emo and Screamo.
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#17
Quote by tomohawkjoe
Except theres a clear difference between Emo and Screamo.


Ever hear actual Emo?

Like, as in Fugazi, Poison the Well, etc?

Quite a frequent usage of screaming.
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Quote by eggsandham2
cuz ppl hate how power metal they are cuz they think its "gay" or w.e, which is immature and dirogitory
#18
Screamo is shit anyways.
A heathen, conceivably
but not,

I hope,
I’m not ashamed to be white
Vi doede ikke... vi har aldri levd
Barbarism is the natural state of mankind
Civilization is unnatural

It is a whim of circumstance
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#19
Quote by Slaytanic1993
Ever hear actual Emo?

Like, as in Fugazi, Poison the Well, etc?

Quite a frequent usage of screaming.

Fugazi is not screamo, Poison the Well is metalcore.

Here, I'll make this easy

This is Emo
This is Screamo

difference should be pretty clear.
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#20
Quote by tomohawkjoe
Fugazi is not screamo, Poison the Well is metalcore.

Here, I'll make this easy

This is Emo
This is Screamo

difference should be pretty clear.


Ahem.

Posion the Well, Fugazi, and The Promise Ring are all prominent bands from the late 80's hardcore punk movement known as Emo. Emo consists of heavy guitars and screamed vocals with clean vocals, albeit sparse. Similar musically to metalcore bands such as Zao.
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Quote by eggsandham2
cuz ppl hate how power metal they are cuz they think its "gay" or w.e, which is immature and dirogitory
#21
Quote by Slaytanic1993
Ahem.

Posion the Well, Fugazi, and The Promise Ring are all prominent bands from the late 80's hardcore punk movement known as Emo. Emo consists of heavy guitars and screamed vocals with clean vocals, albeit sparse. Similar musically to metalcore bands such as Zao.

What?!


Poison the Well (commonly abbreviated as PTW) is a metalcore/post-hardcore band from Miami, Florida currently signed to Ferret Music. Guitarist Ryan Primack and drummer Chris Hornbrook are the only remaining members of the band who have been involved since their first album, although vocalist Jeffrey Moreira has been the singer on all four full length albums. These three are considered the core members of the band.



Fugazi is an American post-hardcore band that formed in Washington, D.C. in 1987. The band's continual members were guitarists Ian MacKaye and Guy Picciotto (who both shared vocal duties), bassist Joe Lally and drummer Brendan Canty. Noted for their ethical stance and manner of business practice, the band experienced commercial success during the 1990s while remaining on their independent record label, Dischord Records. Fugazi has been on hiatus since 2002.


I think it might do you well to read these
The REAL Screamo Thread
Emo Thread

EDIT: I realize how much of a dick I'm being, but there is such a thing as screamo.
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#22
^tomohawkjoe likes to use the quote button .

and yes howard jones is not metal. wrong forum.

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#23
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^tomohawkjoe likes to use the quote button .

and yes howard jones is not metal. wrong forum.

more than you could imagine....
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#27
This isn't the place for this thread, so delete it now!

Btw, I actually like Howard, but we don't talk about those things here.
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#28

I really love waking up to this stuff.

1. Howard Jones has a brilliant clean voice and his growls are pretty decent. I know for a fact that 90% of the metal forum would deny him his obvious talent simply for being in KsE. However, they go in the hardcore forum. It's obvious really.
2. Screamo has become a nessecary evil thanks to the over population of bands and the over classification of pop-punk as emo.
3. "Waisting"?


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#29
Quote by Magero

2. Screamo has become a nessecary evil thanks to the over population of bands and the over classification of pop-punk as emo.

What? I'm not trying to be a dick or anything, I'm just confused by this statement.
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#30
I'm not arguing with either of you.
I'm trying to point out that Slaytanic can go on about how "real emo has screaming" but 90% of listeners would classify tons of pop-punk bands as emo because that's how the media portrays them, so when a "true" emo band comes along, the screamo tag is used to differentiate.
Make more sense now?
#31
Quote by Magero
I'm not arguing with either of you.
I'm trying to point out that Slaytanic can go on about how "real emo has screaming" but 90% of listeners would classify tons of pop-punk bands as emo because that's how the media portrays them, so when a "true" emo band comes along, the screamo tag is used to differentiate.
Make more sense now?

Oh, Ok. Yeah, that makes more sense. Sorta like Skrammz.
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#32
Quote by Magero

I really love waking up to this stuff.

1. Howard Jones has a brilliant clean voice and his growls are pretty decent. I know for a fact that 90% of the metal forum would deny him his obvious talent simply for being in KsE. However, they go in the hardcore forum. It's obvious really.
2. Screamo has become a nessecary evil thanks to the over population of bands and the over classification of pop-punk as emo.
3. "Waisting"?


Have a good day now, enjoy your stay and don't steal our towels.


Very well said, Mag.
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#33
Quote by tomohawkjoe
Oh, Ok. Yeah, that makes more sense. Sorta like Skrammz.

Well, when you start seeing bands like MCR labelled as emo because of the makeup and the angsty lyrics....
Hell, I know nothing about the true emo genre and even I know that it's got nothing to do with makeup and angsty lyrics. Although I do know the name comes from Emotional hardcore
#34
Quote by Magero
Well, when you start seeing bands like MCR labelled as emo because of the makeup and the angsty lyrics....
Hell, I know nothing about the true emo genre and even I know that it's got nothing to do with makeup and angsty lyrics. Although I do know the name comes from Emotional hardcore

Yep, that pretty much describes the situation.
"They have their hair to the side, so they must be emo!"
I personally like screamo more simply because it sounds like they're putting everything they got into the music.
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#36
Quote by Magero
I like some that I've heard....
But technically I don't know what screamo "is"... It feels weird being such a genre freak to not know for once....

Its a genre you kinda have to hear. Its hard to describe with words. If I had to use a word it would be passion but obviously thats not going to help.
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#37
Closest thing to screamo that I listen to that I would call screamo would be Alesana...
But remember I have very little knowledge of music genres outside of metal
#38
Quote by Magero
Closest thing to screamo that I listen to that I would call screamo would be Alesana...
But remember I have very little knowledge of music genres outside of metal

There not screamo, last time someone said that they got torn apart. Just givin you the heads up because it was pretty bad. If you want to know what screamo sounds like, you could try

Raein (personal fav)
Et Tu Brute
Amanda Woodward
Envy (I love this band, so amazing)
Love Like... Electrocution

if anything else, check out the screamo thread in the PP&E forum.
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#40
Quote by Slaytanic1993

- Screamo is NOT A GENRE.



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