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OK me and a few friends of mine started thinking about Jamming,

but we dont really know what to do,
any advise on what we should learn?

i dont know how to get into a 'key',

i dont know any scales at all, so im wondering what i should learn first.

and how do i incorporate scales into solos?

thanks in advance
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well you gotta learn the scales before you try jamming...
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Or at least some basic chords.
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well you gotta learn the scales before you try jamming...

ermmm...
yes, thats what i wrote,
this morning a friend of mine (drummer) was asking me to jam with him so i was like...wtf i dont know how to lol
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whenever i start jamming with new people, we always cover songs before we write original stuff. I think it helps the "chemistry" of the band if you know what i mean
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whenever i start jamming with new people, we always cover songs before we write original stuff. I think it helps the "chemistry" of the band if you know what i mean

haha that'd be pretty hard as seeing as we all know different songs..(not the same),
were just mainly going to improvise
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well you could always noob jam and make a chord progression and just wank soloes over it switching back and fourth
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Yeah, first cover easy songs by other people, think green day and blink 182 etc.

Learn the pentatonic and 'blues' scales so you can play them without thinking about it. When you in you own just improvise around those scales, but dont force it, just relax and play.

when your jamming your own stuff let your drummer start a beat, then just play some easy chord progressions around it eg. (A - D - C - D) and then maybe try and imrpovise over that.

It gets easier with practise, and if it sounds terible the first time, dont let that put you off, as it can be one of the funnest things ever,
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well you could always noob jam and make a chord progression and just wank soloes over it switching back and fourth


haha thats what i did but it sounded crappy


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but how do i incorporate my chords using those scales?
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^^^ so with those chords (none of them are sharps or flats) you could use the c major scale. Also the A pentatonic would sound good as a lot of those notes are part of the scale. This is really where you need to learn music theory
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E,A,D, chords over and over again, then solo on the pentatonic scale in E. That means start at the twelfth fret (or open) on the low E string. The Pentatonic scale looks like this:

e-\-----------------------------------------------12-15----\
B-\---------------------------------------12-15------------\
G-\-------------------------------12-14--------------------\
D-\----------------------12--14----------------------------\
A-\-------------12--14-------------------------------------\
E-\---12--15-----------------------------------------------\
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E,A,D, chords over and over again, then solo on the pentatonic scale in E. That means start at the twelfth fret (or open) on the low E string. The Pentatonic scale looks like this:

e-\-----------------------------------------------12-15----\
B-\---------------------------------------12-15------------\
G-\-------------------------------12-14--------------------\
D-\----------------------12--14----------------------------\
A-\-------------12--14-------------------------------------\
E-\---12--15-----------------------------------------------\

So we use notes around that certain note as we improvise?

or do we follow the scale exactly?
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^^^ so with those chords (none of them are sharps or flats) you could use the c major scale. Also the A pentatonic would sound good as a lot of those notes are part of the scale. This is really where you need to learn music theory



Dmaj has an F#. use the Gmaj scale over those chords.
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So we use notes around that certain note as we improvise?

or do we follow the scale exactly?


Dont follow the scale exactly, you take notes from the scale and fit them together in your own order. You can run up and down it to get a feel of the imrovisation, but you should practise improvising alone abut a scale.

If someone else is playing the chord progression you should be able find a pentatonic scale (moveable) that sounds good with the particular notes.
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Dont follow the scale exactly, you take notes from the scale and fit them together in your own order. You can run up and down it to get a feel of the imrovisation, but you should practise improvising alone abut a scale.

If someone else is playing the chord progression you should be able find a pentatonic scale (moveable) that sounds good with the particular notes.

oh ok, interesting,

ill first learn the pentatonic scale (whatever that is)
but first i got to sleep, but keep posting, ill check tomorrow, nytz
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Those notes, E G A D E, are the Em pentatonic scale. You can play those notes ANYWHERE on the fretboard, don't restrict yourself to one pattern. Those notes are safe and will always sound "right", however you can move outside of the scale if you want but the scale is your framework. Moving outside the scale is fine, think of it as decorating a house with balconies and chimneys and stuff. They're great and really finish it off, but you still need a house to put them on.
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oh ok, interesting,

ill first learn the pentatonic scale (whatever that is)
but first i got to sleep, but keep posting, ill check tomorrow, nytz


Follow this link and learn everything there and you'll be set:
http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/lessons/for_beginners/am_pentatonic_scale_use.html

Hope yournjamming goes well
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Dude you really have to learn MAJOR scales. Do you know anything about intervals? Whole and half steps? Just playing tabs will slow down your progress as a music writer.
#19
you play the blues shuffle and then he plays blues riffs, take turns. basically, someone plays the song and someone else plays notes that sound good.

The key is just the first chord of a progression. Take "Smells like Teen Spirit" the first chord is F so that's the key

and get a damn teacher
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Dude you really have to learn MAJOR scales. Do you know anything about intervals? Whole and half steps? Just playing tabs will slow down your progress as a music writer.

haha yeah i know about half steps and whole steps.
but i havent memorized them yet on the fretboard

@freetime
im not going to get a teacher, guitar is my hobby, im going to work at my own pace instead of the pace of someone elses,

im going to learn from UGs lessons but i just couldnt understand it haha
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haha yeah i know about half steps and whole steps.
but i havent memorized them yet on the fretboard


A whole step corresponds to 4 frets going from one string to another with exception to the b string which is only 3 frets. Hope that helps.
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haha that'd be pretty hard as seeing as we all know different songs..(not the same),
were just mainly going to improvise


That's where Green Day becomes useful. It should take you about 15 seconds to learn the main riff to When I Come Around, and the drumming is pretty easy as well. If you have two guitarists, double up on the main riff.
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Also, it's easiest to learn your pentatonics. Have the second guitarist play a riff in A minor and solo over it with A minor pentatonic.
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