#2
I've never used Seymour ducan pickups but I love EMG's I've got 81's and 85's in me Viper and they sound beauitful So eMG have my vote

But I suppose its jsut down to what sounds best oyou and what oyu want
#4
EMGs are awesome
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#5
emg's are great, i use them. U get a different sound out of blackouts though, black outs arn't quite as higher output but are a bit brighter, and you can get better hard rock-thrash kinda sounds out of them. not that emg's arnt really good for that anyway! thats what i heard about a blackouts.
#9
You're not going to get good answers, because Blackouts haven't been out for very long, so very few people have actually gotten a chance to use them.
#10
Well i have blackouts.

and my friend has emgs.

I favor the blackouts due to more mids and a bit less hum.

Though the Emgs feel a bit hotter and that is nice at times

And there is a ABH-2 metal blackout.

which i havent had a chance to try but i feel that will most defnintly overtake the blackout.

so really the only difference is your prefernce in the tonal and output differences and quite possible harmonically as well.
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#11
i hear blasckouts are really middy so it would not be that good for metal. it would still be OK for metal but the emgs are THE metal pickups. duncans are good for hard rock and like metalcore andstuff like that.
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#12
Quote by apak
i hear blasckouts are really middy so it would not be that good for metal. it would still be OK for metal but the emgs are THE metal pickups. duncans are good for hard rock and like metalcore andstuff like that.


haha mids not good for metal?

you must love the line 6 "sccop da midz" tone

mid is volume and clarity.

the fact i play metal kinda makes your statement void.

oh and alexis sig model now has a emg.. oh and alots of metal players are going to Blackouts.....
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#13
Quote by apak
i hear blasckouts are really middy so it would not be that good for metal. it would still be OK for metal but the emgs are THE metal pickups. duncans are good for hard rock and like metalcore andstuff like that.

For Metal bands that have br00tal scooped tone and totally mix their bass out......I'm not the biggest fan of mids but my Distortion pedal stays at Bass:8 Mids:6 Highs:10. I will adjust that slightly depending on the artist I play or if I need a slightly different tone....


I have an EMG in my LTD (I got it used so I'm pretty sure it was added by it's previous owner.) and I get great Metal tones from it. (Or as great as I can with my amp and pedal) I'm fixing up a cheap Telecaster I got with a SD Hot Rails for Tele so if the thread isn't dead by the time I get it I'll give you my opinion on it......
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Quote by Krzy8
haha mids not good for metal?

you must love the line 6 "sccop da midz" tone

mid is volume and clarity.

the fact i play metal kinda makes your statement void.

oh and alexis sig model now has a emg.. oh and alots of metal players are going to Blackouts.....



While I do agree mids are pretty important, Alexis custom shop model doesn't have an EMG, it used to, but now they feature a blackout.
#16
took the emg's out of my hellraiser and put blackouts in...personally like the blackouts better...cant really go wrong with either for metal...cleans are a little better with the blackouts
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#17
Quote by edusty2010
While I do agree mids are pretty important, Alexis custom shop model doesn't have an EMG, it used to, but now they feature a blackout.


oh i meant to say Blackout, nice catch though
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#19
Honestly, the EMGs without coil-tap are still better than the Blackouts for what I play.
But that doesn't mean the Blackouts are bad. I still dig the Blackouts, they just don't give me the semi-synthetic edge that I like from the EMGs.
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#20
Quote by truespin
Honestly, the EMGs without coil-tap are still better than the Blackouts for what I play.
But that doesn't mean the Blackouts are bad. I still dig the Blackouts, they just don't give me the semi-synthetic edge that I like from the EMGs.

u are correct, which is why ill be leaving my emg's in the ax-400 im getting....if i had to choose between, id still take the blackouts,...but i dont have to choose, so hooray for me...and u
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#21
Seymour hands down absolutely destroys EMGs, by getting high output pickups WITH good cleans as well, of course this is U.G. your not going to get the right answer, everyone is a metal freak, and they're going to say EMGs. Biased question.
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#22
Quote by DSchmitty
Seymour hands down absolutely destroys EMGs, by getting high output pickups WITH good cleans as well, of course this is U.G. your not going to get the right answer, everyone is a metal freak, and they're going to say EMGs. Biased question.

im a metal freak and i say blackouts...and i dont agree they destroy emgs...emgs have their place and have had their place for years and years
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#23
I have an Epi Goth Explorer with EMG 81/89 and it is BOSS but I cant say anything about Blackouts cuz Ive never played or heard them =P
#24
I have both EMG's and Blackouts and they are both great pickups for metal, but to say one is better depends on what sound your goin for.
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#25
Quote by RATM62592
I have both EMG's and Blackouts and they are both great pickups for metal, but to say one is better depends on what sound your goin for.



+2

I think that most of the people that flame the other half for using the
opposite brand are just the type that flame everything except what they
have and what they like. When u factor in all the things that create sound
its hard to compare two different guitars with different pups. Some guitars
sound better with high mid range in metal. Some others sound better scooped.
You have to know the sound characteristics of a guitar before u go dropping
pups into it.

You dont want to drop a set of pups in a les paul custom that
give an Alder sound. You might need that scooped sound for a les paul..

Although..The SG may sound better with a higher mid range..because
of sound characteristics..

therefore..Blackouts may suck in a les paul...because you may want to emphasize
on that scooped sound to play it to its full potential. Because LP's are natually
dark sounding and have a great low end.. However...if you wanna ballance out
the low end..you may think EMGS suck..because the midrange can get pushed
aside.

The SG can have sound characteristics of a Les Paul and a Strat...EMG's can tilt
the sound more towards Les Paul..Blackouts can tilt the sound more towards
a strat..

The argument will never be settled..because with different guitars..you need
different EQ settings to sound good. With different pups you need different
EQ settings to sound good. And you cant play two different pups on the same
settings and get a fair comparison.
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#26
Quote by Washburnd Fretz
+2

I think that most of the people that flame the other half for using the
opposite brand are just the type that flame everything except what they
have and what they like. When u factor in all the things that create sound
its hard to compare two different guitars with different pups. Some guitars
sound better with high mid range in metal. Some others sound better scooped.
You have to know the sound characteristics of a guitar before u go dropping
pups into it.

You dont want to drop a set of pups in a les paul custom that
give an Alder sound. You might need that scooped sound for a les paul..

Although..The SG may sound better with a higher mid range..because
of sound characteristics..

therefore..Blackouts may suck in a les paul...because you may want to emphasize
on that scooped sound to play it to its full potential. Because LP's are natually
dark sounding and have a great low end.. However...if you wanna ballance out
the low end..you may think EMGS suck..because the midrange can get pushed
aside.

The SG can have sound characteristics of a Les Paul and a Strat...EMG's can tilt
the sound more towards Les Paul..Blackouts can tilt the sound more towards
a strat..

The argument will never be settled..because with different guitars..you need
different EQ settings to sound good. With different pups you need different
EQ settings to sound good. And you cant play two different pups on the same
settings and get a fair comparison.

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#28
Quote by DSchmitty
Seymour hands down absolutely destroys EMGs, by getting high output pickups WITH good cleans as well,


EMG's are Clean enough for David Gilmour.

I often find myself wondering if they people on this site that review products
have even heard them before...Just because players of certain genres favor
certain products does NOT mean that they are limited to those genres...
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#29
Quote by Krzy8
haha mids not good for metal?

you must love the line 6 "sccop da midz" tone

mid is volume and clarity.

the fact i play metal kinda makes your statement void.

oh and alexis sig model now has a emg.. oh and alots of metal players are going to Blackouts.....

No. i mean REALLLLLLLYYYYYYYYYY MIDDY. too much so for metal. it sounds like not metal. i cant explain go try it yourself with the emg's out of the same amp at same eq settings. dang.. and it's a comparison. so it has way more mids than emg's.
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#30
I like blackouts with my ibanez more.

But to be honest, Bare Knuckle Pickups blow them all out of the water. If you want huge output use the Warpigs, they have over twice the output power of EMG 85's and they're passive... Handmade too.

If you want real tone, definition get some BKP. Well worth the money and all the different models mean there are lots of different sounds on offer. Well worth the extra money.
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