#1
Who is on your list?

A few come to mind for me right away (along with a million others)

Metheny, Scofield, Robben Ford ,Holdsworth Warren Haynes, Django!


http://youtube.com/watch?v=CmZjHh1sWfQ

http://youtube.com/watch?v=nVaotTRHExE&feature=rel ated


http://youtube.com/watch?v=-seRKPVizLA&feature=rel ated

http://youtube.com/watch?v=3COq4fElfRA&feature=rel ated

http://youtube.com/watch?v=_rYgsTVtbb0&feature=rel ated
#2
Not in any real order but here are some of my favs for best phrasing:

Uli Roth
Alan Holdsworth
Stevie Ray Vaughn
Carlos Santana
Steve Vai
Django Reinhardt
David Gilmour
Yngwie Malmsteen
Eric Clapton
John Petrucci
#7
It's all subjective. I think yngwie malmsteens phrasing is awesome, but hate santana's phrasing. You might think yngwie is a souless shredder (he's not IMO), and that santana's music comes from the very depth of his life force.
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It's all subjective. I think yngwie malmsteens phrasing is awesome, but hate santana's phrasing. You might think yngwie is a souless shredder (he's not IMO), and that santana's music comes from the very depth of his life force.


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#10
Never heard of Jonh Scofield before...but i think I'm going
to steal the lick he dose in those pharsing starting @ 1:45 mark.
That sounds sick that way he hits those harmonics on the up strokes.
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#11
Steve Vai and Paul Gilbert has excellent phrasing! Yngwie Malmsteen is pretty good at it as well, but I haven't "studied" him as much.
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#12
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Who is on your list?

A few come to mind for me right away (along with a million others)

Metheny, Scofield, Robben Ford ,Holdsworth Warren Haynes, Django!


http://youtube.com/watch?v=CmZjHh1sWfQ

http://youtube.com/watch?v=nVaotTRHExE&feature=rel ated


http://youtube.com/watch?v=-seRKPVizLA&feature=rel ated

http://youtube.com/watch?v=3COq4fElfRA&feature=rel ated

http://youtube.com/watch?v=_rYgsTVtbb0&feature=rel ated


I agree with all of the above, then add Marty Friedman to the list. That's my list.
#13
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It's all subjective. I think yngwie malmsteens phrasing is awesome, but hate santana's phrasing. You might think yngwie is a souless shredder (he's not IMO), and that santana's music comes from the very depth of his life force.



It's not totally subjective. Whether you like it or not is, but whether its good phrasing or not is determinable if you know what phrasing is. (which I know you do).

Santana's phrasing is generally very good. I havent heard every single solo, but for example the intro solo to Black Magic Woman is very well phrased in that sense that it has discernible phrases.
You don't like him, fair enough..... thats on you not him.
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#14
Guthrie Govan FTW!!1 watch his improvs on all the backing tracks on youtube, its euphoric

And maybe not as agreeable by some and maybe more obscure, but I'd say Robby Krieger also. His leads make all the songs so much more Doorsy and dreamy
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Guthrie Govan FTW!!1 watch his improvs on all the backing tracks on youtube, its euphoric

And maybe not as agreeable by some and maybe more obscure, but I'd say Robby Krieger also. His leads make all the songs so much more Doorsy and dreamy


+1 to both of those.
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#17
John Dowland
Steve Vai
John Scofield
Frank Gambale

A lot of guys who don't rely on conventional scales have really good phrasing, like aforementioned players.
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#19
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no ones said dimebag?.... am i the only one who like his phrasing?.....

Yes

I really love Santana's phrasing - he's not amazing as a guitarist compared to some of the people out there, but it's his phrasing and the way he seems to concentrate on melody that puts him above a lot of generally considered better guitarists for me.
#20
no ones said dimebag?.... am i the only one who like his phrasing?.....

Yeah, Darrell certainly had his moments. The Psycho Holiday solo comes to mind for some nice phrasing.
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#22
B.B. King, Johnny Smith, Charlie Christian, Wes Montgomery, Eddie Lang.
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It's not totally subjective. Whether you like it or not is, but whether its good phrasing or not is determinable if you know what phrasing is. (which I know you do).

Santana's phrasing is generally very good. I havent heard every single solo, but for example the intro solo to Black Magic Woman is very well phrased in that sense that it has discernible phrases.
You don't like him, fair enough..... thats on you not him.


Second that.

I put Santana up there because I can immediately tell it is him by his phrasing (just in hearing a couple of notes). To me phrasing is more important than shred, even though I consider myself a shredder. Phrasing is the hook to a players style, much more than signature licks or even sound sometimes. If a player has poor vibrato, bending, slides, acciaccatura or appoggiatura then I usually don't even bother listening to them unless they have some other uniqueness that really stands out and shines - Jimmy Page comes to mind in that regard. Where as I can't even listen to Keith Richards because of his atrocious guitar playing, it is like a cat put in a blender.

#25
Santana. He's no SRV on the guitar but his phrasing is so damn good.

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Eric Johnson
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My hero. Sonny Rollins' phrasing is second to none, imo.

Add Joe Pass, Eric Johnson, and Ry Cooder to the list.
#28
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Santana. He's no SRV on the guitar but his phrasing is so damn good.

Your right. He's no Stevie, but when you're Carlos Santana, you don't have to be anyone but Carlos Santana. Listen to Europa. Now that song is epic. Or Blues for Salvador.
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#33
^Dave Mustaine is a very capable guitarist. His phrasing, IMO, was sort of average in the begining of his career. But after playing with such guitarist's as Chris Poland, Marty Friedman and Al pitreli and after taking lessons, he's gotten alot better.
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You don't like him, fair enough..... thats on you not him.
Well, thats my point. I find santana's phrasing too cheesy. Can it be called undeniably bad? Of course not. But I find Yngwie Malmsteens phrasing as a subtle, brilliant, intelligent and at times dark. Is it good phrasing? Well I think so, most people will disagree with me.
#34
Duane Allman anyone?

That man could say so much with just a few notes. He could also tear it up with some blazing slide work also.
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#35
I find most of the phrasing done by shredders to be unpleasant. Like No Boundries by MAB. Ugh.