#1
Hey, is there a big difference between the sound you get from the gibson and the epiphone? because some people told me that gibson isnt that good and epiphone is almost as good
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Gibson guitars are slightly higher quality
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Depends on what he was referring to specifically. There's many people on here that will say that a high-end Epiphone is better than a low-end Gibson.
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The sound is probably the biggest different. The hardware is better on the Gibson, usually the fit/finish also.
#6
Epiphones can be good quality for a budget brand. Gibsons (unless its a cheap Gibsons) are going to be miles ahead of an Epi in terms of quality and in turn sound.

If there's one thing I've learned about guitars and gear, its that professional quality rarely comes at a decent price.
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#7
I thought the only difference between Gibson and Epiphone was the name on the headstock and the price tag??
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i'd say the biggest difference is the price (IMO)
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way better


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#10
Epiphone is made overseas with cheaper parts,etc.
Gibson is made here in the U.S. with better parts and labor isn't nearly as cheap as it is wherever Epiphone is made.
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gibsons are quite a bit better in my experience
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i'd say the biggest difference is the price



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gibsons r only expensive coz they r USA made (damn beaten to it)


get an epiphone put some gibson pick-ups in it and u've got somethin close 2 a gibson
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epiphone is made of cheaper parts and are generally heavier. They are also more likley to be mass-produced rather than hand-made. Also, I personally feel that epi's just don't look the same as Gibsons, particularly SG's...theres just summit about em doesn't quite look right, but thats probs just me coz i'm an SG obsessive lol
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My band mate has 3 Epiphone LPs and a Gibson LP.

Gibsons are better guitars, they are built with higher grade materials such as the wood on the body and the electronics. They have a much higher sustains due to the heavy bodies (they can weight up to 11lbs.).

A beginner just starting out wouldn't really be able to appriciate owning a Gibson vs an Epiphone, the price difference is huge.

If you are looking trying to decide wich to get, I would advise getting the Epiphone LP and a nice 5 watt tube amp (unless you are gigging, then at least a 30w tube).

There is a sticky at the top of the page regarding buying an Epiphone LP.

https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/forum/showthread.php?t=328491

It's a good read and it tells you wich Epiphone to buy as there are many different models. I would go with an Ultra or a Custome.

My dream guitar is a Gibson LP (I already have my dream American Blackie Edition Fender Strat) but I don't see me dropping 2Grand on a guitar anytime soon, so I will prolly end up getting a nice Epiphone.

EDIT: An Epiphone LP Standard would be a good buy as well, and should be able to get one for around $500.00 or so.
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I've noticed that the low end gibsons absolutely suck, and are on par with low- mid level epiphones in terms of both build quality and sound. I think I got lucky, because my epi LP standard plays and sounds better than any epi LPs I've played at GC, and anything lower in price than a Gibson LP standard. I was at GC yesterday and every epi they had, included the Ultra LP, was just a horrible instrument. But so were all the low end Gibsons. I have an epi elitist SG that's really nice though, much better than any other epiphone I've played, and the only guitar I've played that outclassed it was a Gibson LP standard, which was mind blowingly awesome.

The thing is, epiphones are not exactly Gibson-copies like most people seem to think. They're more Gibson shaped guitars that they change here and there to make it so that you're not getting quite the real thing but with cheaper parts, though some of them can be very good. But if you want a genuine copy, something that's essentially a Gibson, but without paying for the name, look at Tokai and prelawsuit Ibanez LPs.
#16
Low end Gibsons generally sucks?

Not my Gibson SG faded, it pisses all over Epis.
#17
honestly, they're not really that different
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every low end gibson that i've played was terrible, on par or worse than most epis i've played. that may not be true for yours, and i'm sure the horrible set ups that the guitars on display at GC have something to do with it, but every time i pick up an sg faded or special, or a lp studio, i'm just appalled at the quality, and then when i plug them in they sound muddy and flat. i would never buy anything that piss-poor. the standards i've played really shine though. for a long time i thought the poor opinions regarding gibson's quality control was just based on some bad experiences, but i'm finding more and more that they've got a pretty solid basis.
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I will have to kindly agree to disagree on that statement.

Althought the price of a Gibson is insane, to say there isn't any or little difference in the 2 is a little misinformed.

Gibsons are higher quality guitars...period.
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Well I'm one of the guys who talks about this. However I have quite some history about this. I also OWN a Gibson, which makes me biased for it

To start with:
Some Gibsons are sh*t. No matter what you say, some modern Gibson guitars are really bad. Not only for a Gibson, but for a guitar. Compared to some of the high end Epis, these blow them OUT OF THE WATER!

But then again Gibsons THEMSELVES are notorious for being different. IMO Gibsons up until 2008 has been everything but great IMO. But the new ones are catching up. However the late 90's Gibsons are AWESOME for an example!
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If I had to choose between an epi elitist and a gibby studio I would go with the epi. That being said a epi elitist isn't close to a LP standard or above. So there is crossover on quality but it is with the highest quality epi vs the lowest quality gibby. Any statements beyond that saying the epi's are close to gibson are false and you should ignore those ppl.

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Gibsons are higher quality guitars...period.


this statement is black and white, and thus wrong. EVERY GUITAR IS DIFFERENT. alot of gibsons that i've seen have frets coming up, are showing glue here and there, have dry and gross fretboards (though that's probably the store's fault), and sound terrible. and some of them are great. the same can be said of epis.

but to answer the original question: no, gibson and epiphone are not the same. not just in terms of quality, but an equally well made and good sounding gibson and epiphone of the same model will not look/feel/sound the same. a gibson LP standard and an epi LP standard are not the same guitar. other companies make much closer replicas of gibson guitars, but gibson makes sure that as a lower end model, the epiphones are also different enough to not be just a cheaper version of the same thing. its better for business.
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yes. Gibson has better wood, pickups, pretty much everything.
Plus, you can say you have a Gibson.
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this statement is black and white, and thus wrong. EVERY GUITAR IS DIFFERENT. alot of gibsons that i've seen have frets coming up, are showing glue here and there, have dry and gross fretboards (though that's probably the store's fault), and sound terrible. and some of them are great. the same can be said of epis.


Well again, we can agree to disagree. It's a matter of opinion, different strokes and all that jazz.
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this statement is black and white, and thus wrong. EVERY GUITAR IS DIFFERENT. alot of gibsons that i've seen have frets coming up, are showing glue here and there, have dry and gross fretboards (though that's probably the store's fault), and sound terrible. and some of them are great. the same can be said of epis.

Well again, we can agree to disagree. It's a matter of opinion, different strokes and all that jazz.


your experiences may differ, but objectively shoddy workmanship is not an opinion. not all gibsons are good guitars. and sometimes epis can be better than gibsons on every level, well beyond the point where the idea of a 'good guitar' is subjective. there is no reason to assume that gibson = good. i'm not trying to defame the company by any means, it's just ignorant to assume that every gibson is better than every epi. it is however, an objective fact that _some_ epis are better than _some_ gibsons. the key word is 'some'.
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your experiences may differ, but objectively shoddy workmanship is not an opinion. not all gibsons are good guitars. and sometimes epis can be better than gibsons on every level, well beyond the point where the idea of a 'good guitar' is subjective. there is no reason to assume that gibson = good. i'm not trying to defame the company by any means, it's just ignorant to assume that every gibson is better than every epi. it is however, an objective fact that _some_ epis are better than _some_ gibsons. the key word is 'some'.



Look man, I'm just trying to help the guy out here and in my opinion Gibson makes a higher quality guitar.
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wood quaillty....epiphone is usally a cheap oak and gibson is usally maple


Epiphone says that their LPs are mahogony with a maple top. Not oak. Same for Gibson.

Generally, and depending on the model, it should be safe to assume that Gibson would use higher grades of mahogany and maple than Epiphone.
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Look man, I'm just trying to help the guy out here and in my opinion Gibson makes a higher quality guitar.


sorry, i don't mean to attack you, but it's just not that clear cut. gibson makes crap sometimes, just like epiphone. the name gibson doesn't always mean you're getting a decent guitar. that's not only my observation (not opinion), it's also been well established with many users on this forum.

my opinion is that i like gibsons, well made gibsons, better. but the name certainly has something to do with that, i can't deny that.
#31
If you can get an epi that sounds good with out being plugged in and the neck is good and comfortable to you then you can always replace all the electronics and be that much closer. Which is what I'm doing with an epi custom now. From what I've heared gibson uses higher quality woods and from playing a few at guitar center they have much better finishes, binding and fretting. I don't think the electronics that come in them are worth paying the extra money for. It's very easy to get a better electronics job done your self than the factory wiring IMO. That would make an Epi american wired if your living in the states. I don't think the "american worksmanship" on these guitars is worth paying the extra couple grand for. It just cost more to get american workers on the assmbly line then the chinese workers on the assembly line.
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