#1
i've been trying out different string gauges and none of them suit me at all. right now i have probably the most retard set i've ever had in my life. 60-60-56-44-18p-14-11.
don't ask me why i have two 60's.

this set and the last set and the last set all sucked. they're way too loose and i'm not even detuned that much. they're too loose for me dropped a whole step. i'm all over in tunings and i want to go anywhere from B to F and everything in between. i dont want them loose when i'm in F or F# but i dont want them extremely tight when i'm in B or Bb.

what should i do?
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#2
switch to bass?
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#3
It's because the RG7321 is still only a 25.5" scale guitar IIRC, you really need a guitar with a 28" scale length if you want to go below B.
#4
^^Srsly.... If you're tuning down to F, that's only a note higher than a regular bass guitar. I'm not one to try to tell someone what to do with their guitar and music, but tuning down to F is crazy... I don't imagine the speaker in your Cube can even handle frequencies that low.
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#5
Agreed, Either get a 7 string (or 8 but I've heard those are crap) and tune lower or get a baritone guitar (aka 28" guitar)
#6
oh and a question anyway....Why the **** would you need to tune that low anyway? just wondering....
#7
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oh and a question anyway....Why the **** would you need to tune that low anyway? just wondering....


Because he's a woman and can't make anything sound heavy in standard tuning, just like everyone else that tunes stupidly low.

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#8
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Because he's a woman and can't make anything sound heavy in standard tuning, just like everyone else that tunes stupidly low.

Tony Iommi is the only exception to that rule.

Drone doom bands are allowed to tune down to F. But nobody else.

Edit: Get a baritone guitar.
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#9
so i get flamed for wanting to tune low? how mature. i don't flame people for always being in standard. i like the sound of low tunings and thats what i play. you guys should respect what i play like how i respect what you play.

the Ibanez i play is a 7 string. but would a larger scale length really fix my problem? because i'm not looking at getting a new guitar anytime soon.
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#12
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there's a big difference between F and B - - seems to me you need more than one guitar.


im no genius at drop tuning but i think he has the idea
#13
well i said anywhere from B to F not just B and F or i would just get two separate guitars.
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#15
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so i get flamed for wanting to tune low? how mature. i don't flame people for always being in standard. i like the sound of low tunings and thats what i play. you guys should respect what i play like how i respect what you play.

the Ibanez i play is a 7 string. but would a larger scale length really fix my problem? because i'm not looking at getting a new guitar anytime soon.


i wasn't flaming, i was being semi-serious. there's a reason bass guitars have a much longer scale length than guitars, and that's so the strings aren't like elastic bands. scale length changes the tension, so you'd ideally want something with a longer scale length, perhaps a baritone.

i don't tune down too much, but i can notice a difference in tension between 25.5" and 24.75" scales, so i can only assume there'd be an even bigger difference with a baritone.
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#16
there's a reason i play guitar and i also play bass, just not very well. i wouldn't mind getting a baritone because that would make the switch from playing bass to guitar a little easier i suppose, and it'll fix my tuning problem...
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#17
Work your *** off for an 8 string...
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i wasn't flaming, i was being semi-serious. there's a reason bass guitars have a much longer scale length than guitars, and that's so the strings aren't like elastic bands. scale length changes the tension, so you'd ideally want something with a longer scale length, perhaps a baritone.

i don't tune down too much, but i can notice a difference in tension between 25.5" and 24.75" scales, so i can only assume there'd be an even bigger difference with a baritone.

Yeah but using a bass through a Cube 60 will probably blow the amp up.
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#18
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Work your *** off for an 8 string...

Yeah but using a bass through a Cube 60 will probably blow the amp up.


i was thinking about just living with my problem for now and save up for an 8 string...
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#19
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Yeah but using a bass through a Cube 60 will probably blow the amp up.


true. you need to be careful with the amp and speakers when tuning way down.
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I'll have to put the Classic T models on my to-try list. Shame the finish options there are Anachronism Gold, Nuclear Waste and Aged Clown, because in principle the plaintop is right up my alley.

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#20
It's not the tuning but how you string chords together to achieve a heavy sound.
#21
i don't use many chords when i tune down lower than A.

i'm looking at Warmoth Baritone 7 string necks, should i get one? i'd rather not buy a whole new guitar.
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#22
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i don't use many chords when i tune down lower than A.


and we're back to my original bass suggestion...
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I'll have to put the Classic T models on my to-try list. Shame the finish options there are Anachronism Gold, Nuclear Waste and Aged Clown, because in principle the plaintop is right up my alley.

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#23
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and we're back to my original bass suggestion...


can we please drop the bass thing?

i want to go lower but still have the charateristics of a guitar. (not a bass!)
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#24
indeed. baritone, most likely.
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I'll have to put the Classic T models on my to-try list. Shame the finish options there are Anachronism Gold, Nuclear Waste and Aged Clown, because in principle the plaintop is right up my alley.

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#25
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i've been trying out different string gauges and none of them suit me at all. right now i have probably the most retard set i've ever had in my life. 60-60-56-44-18p-14-11.
don't ask me why i have two 60's.

this set and the last set and the last set all sucked. they're way too loose and i'm not even detuned that much. they're too loose for me dropped a whole step. i'm all over in tunings and i want to go anywhere from B to F and everything in between. i dont want them loose when i'm in F or F# but i dont want them extremely tight when i'm in B or Bb.

what should i do?



Get a seven string. Problem sovled. That's why they're made
#27
i already have a 7 string. Agile doesn't make 8 strings anyway.
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#28
Baritone or 8-er.

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#29
Quote by ugmung
i don't use many chords when i tune down lower than A.

i'm looking at Warmoth Baritone 7 string necks, should i get one? i'd rather not buy a whole new guitar.

well you would need to route your pickup cavities out, and then get new pickups. or else you wouldnt really here your 7th string. yeah and a new bridge. you know, so you have a place for your 7th string.
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#30
One of the Agile 7's have a longer scale, with EMGs too. Too bad:

1. LFR
2. ~$600
3. from Rondo music (may not be an actual drawback, haven't tried one)
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#31
the $600 one is a 25.5 scale, which is what i have. the $430 one has a 27 scale lenght though...
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#32
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i'm looking at Warmoth Baritone 7 string necks, should i get one? i'd rather not buy a whole new guitar.


i just noticed this. i don't think that will work.
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I'll have to put the Classic T models on my to-try list. Shame the finish options there are Anachronism Gold, Nuclear Waste and Aged Clown, because in principle the plaintop is right up my alley.

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#33
I said this at the start of the darn thread.

Get a 28" 7 string, a 25.5" 7 string will not be able to tune down to F.

/thread
#34
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I said this at the start of the darn thread.

Get a 28" 7 string, a 25.5" 7 string will not be able to tune down to F.

/thread


no. the threads not done yet! :]

i mean, if i could get a 28" 7 string i would, but i can't some i'm trying to ask for other alternatives.
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#35
is there an alternative way to get a longer scale length?
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I'll have to put the Classic T models on my to-try list. Shame the finish options there are Anachronism Gold, Nuclear Waste and Aged Clown, because in principle the plaintop is right up my alley.

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#37
me neither.
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I'll have to put the Classic T models on my to-try list. Shame the finish options there are Anachronism Gold, Nuclear Waste and Aged Clown, because in principle the plaintop is right up my alley.

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Presumably because the CCF (Combined Corksniffing Forces) of MLP and Gibson forums would rise up against them, plunging the land into war.

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#38
You could ask a luthier to make you a longer scale length, but it's gonna cost you, so you might as well save up for a new guitar or something...
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