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Conservative
27 30%
Liberal
35 38%
Moderate
29 32%
Voters: 91.
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#1
Bush has barely any control over anything. It's all the congress. Your democratic congress. Notice all the bad things have been happening since the dems got congress? Guess what, that has nothing to do with the president.

The president is like the queen of England. No control. It's just a ceremonial position.

Oh, and another thing. I'm not one of those idiot americans. I'm not a sheep. I know where Iraq is. I know where Iran is. I can tell you all the countries in Europe. We're not all stupid, but a lot of us American's are.

The thing ruining this country (our "cancer" if you will) is liberals who woo people with free healthcare and welfare. What they don't tell you is that the liberal way is a Socialist way. They want more government control and more taxation. That's communism. The liberals give you the RIAA raids, the MPAA militia, and Jack Thompson.

Oh, and don't you DARE call me a sheep. I don't believe the media. The media is HEAVILY saturated with democrats. If you believe free healthcare is the right way to go, think. Who the **** is going to pay for it?

If you still want it, think. You are going to be paying your hard earned dollars so some lazy asshole is going to sit on his ass all day and not work. Thank you Marx!

However, I do not want to character assassinate all the liberals. There are good things about them too. But, I want your opinion.
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#2
Your an idiot. You only JUST realized this??


Oh, and sheep.

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#3
i've always liked Bush. i think, other than a few mistakes, which are expected, he was a great president.
#5
If conservative hard asses like you didn't exist in this world, socialism/communism would ****ing work. You power-hungry dick.

EDIT: Maybe I should explain myself so that this isn't spam

Nothing against you mate, you're just in the line of fire. I don't believe in conservatism, and that is that. If conservatives/capitalists were eliminated from a communist society, communism/eventual anarchy would work just fine.

But once you throw in the greedy people, those who want to exert control over others, into the mix, you get the ****ing propaganda that came out of the Cold War.

And now look, our ****ing society is always going to be in eternal fear and never be progressing towards a caring, peaceful world where we can all coexist together in equality.

Anyways, hope you understand now. Nothing against you personally, and I hear what you're saying, the ****ing liberals in the US won't make anything work ever, free health care won't solve our world's problems.
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#6
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#8
The problem is, every time congress tries to pass some piece of legslation that goes against what Bush wants (in other words, that makes sense) the dumb**** vetoes it.

Oh, and political thread.
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#11
Just like liberals may be leaning towards socialism, the conservatives are supporting corporations. Quite frankly, right now I'm more inclined to socialism than the corrupt capitalist system we have now.
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#12
I would have posted it in the political thread, but hell, I forgot about it >.>

It'll be locked soon enough, so whatever.

Communism work? Hah! Everyone gets paid equally, right? Steal from the rich and give to the poor. What's the incentive for the economy to grow? What's the incentive to work? You will never get a raise, you'll never make it to the top of anything, all you can be is the same pay. No competition, no market, no growth.
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#13
Quote by cjblack532
I would have posted it in the political thread, but hell, I forgot about it >.>

It'll be locked soon enough, so whatever.

Communism work? Hah! Everyone gets paid equally, right? Steal from the rich and give to the poor. What's the incentive for the economy to grow? What's the incentive to work? You will never get a raise, you'll never make it to the top of anything, all you can be is the same pay. No competition, no market, no growth.

and then in the end, it's just steal from the poor, give to the rich.
#14
what about all the bad stuff that happened before we had a democratic congress? such as the first four years of the bush administration, no one party is to blame for our countries problems.
#16
Quote by cjblack532
I would have posted it in the political thread, but hell, I forgot about it >.>

It'll be locked soon enough, so whatever.

Communism work? Hah! Everyone gets paid equally, right? Steal from the rich and give to the poor. What's the incentive for the economy to grow? What's the incentive to work? You will never get a raise, you'll never make it to the top of anything, all you can be is the same pay. No competition, no market, no growth.


There's a difference between communism and socialism. And basing a society of personal gain is why everyone in the U.S. is so uptight about everything. We can't depend on people's want for more, because it only corrupts us. Sure, it may be a good system, at the expense of our own morals.
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#17
Quote by cjblack532
The thing ruining this country (our "cancer" if you will) is liberals who woo people with free healthcare and welfare. What they don't tell you is that the liberal way is a Socialist way. They want more government control and more taxation. That's communism.

That's not communism. Free healthcare and welfare work in virtually every other first world Western democracy, it's a hardly a bad thing to aspire to.
#19
Quote by st.stephen
If conservative hard asses like you didn't exist in this world, socialism/communism would ****ing work. You power-hungry dick.

EDIT: Maybe I should explain myself so that this isn't spam

Nothing against you mate, you're just in the line of fire. I don't believe in conservatism, and that is that. If conservatives/capitalists were eliminated from a communist society, communism/eventual anarchy would work just fine.

But once you throw in the greedy people, those who want to exert control over others, into the mix, you get the ****ing propaganda that came out of the Cold War.

And now look, our ****ing society is always going to be in eternal fear and never be progressing towards a caring, peaceful world where we can all coexist together in equality.

Anyways, hope you understand now. Nothing against you personally, and I hear what you're saying, the ****ing liberals in the US won't make anything work ever, free health care won't solve our world's problems.


So all greedy people are conservative? I know plenty of people with liberal politics who are the greediest and biggest douches I've met. Anarchy requires, an ideal society, where everyone is all "La la la. love and peace!" But no. That will never, EVER happen. As much as I hate to say it, it will NEVER HAPPEN. Even if there were only liberals, there would still be crime, there would still be hate. Don't...****ing...stereotype.
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#21
Quote by st.stephen
If conservative hard asses like you didn't exist in this world, socialism/communism would ****ing work. You power-hungry dick.

EDIT: Maybe I should explain myself so that this isn't spam

Nothing against you mate, you're just in the line of fire. I don't believe in conservatism, and that is that. If conservatives/capitalists were eliminated from a communist society, communism/eventual anarchy would work just fine.

But once you throw in the greedy people, those who want to exert control over others, into the mix, you get the ****ing propaganda that came out of the Cold War.

And now look, our ****ing society is always going to be in eternal fear and never be progressing towards a caring, peaceful world where we can all coexist together in equality.

Anyways, hope you understand now. Nothing against you personally, and I hear what you're saying, the ****ing liberals in the US won't make anything work ever, free health care won't solve our world's problems.
i hate socialism.
#22
Completely disagree.

The thing tearing our country apart is partizinship in the first place. People thinking you *have* to be either dem or republican, either liberal or conservative.

The world isn't that black and white, and by trying to make it that way they're both destroying democracy as it was intended, and whitewashing all the issues so you don't know what's really going on. "I vote democrat because I'm a democrat" etc. It's stupid.

ALWAYS be wary when someone tries to over-simplify, "good vs bad" "us vs them" etc. It's a form of mind control and we're all falling for it.
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#23
You had me until the second paragraph...
If you could blow up the world with a flick of a switch,
Would you do it?

If you could make everybody poor just so you could be rich,
Would you do it?

With all your power,
What would you do?
#24
Quote by cjblack532
Bush has barely any control over anything. It's all the congress. Your democratic congress. Notice all the bad things have been happening since the dems got congress? Guess what, that has nothing to do with the president.

The president is like the queen of England. No control. It's just a ceremonial position.

Oh, and another thing. I'm not one of those idiot americans. I'm not a sheep. I know where Iraq is. I know where Iran is. I can tell you all the countries in Europe. We're not all stupid, but a lot of us American's are.

The thing ruining this country (our "cancer" if you will) is liberals who woo people with free healthcare and welfare. What they don't tell you is that the liberal way is a Socialist way. They want more government control and more taxation. That's communism. The liberals give you the RIAA raids, the MPAA militia, and Jack Thompson.

Oh, and don't you DARE call me a sheep. I don't believe the media. The media is HEAVILY saturated with democrats. If you believe free healthcare is the right way to go, think. Who the **** is going to pay for it?

If you still want it, think. You are going to be paying your hard earned dollars so some lazy asshole is going to sit on his ass all day and not work. Thank you Marx!

However, I do not want to character assassinate all the liberals. There are good things about them too. But, I want your opinion.


i agree

but honestly there's no point in posting this on UG, no one will listen. i've already argued and backed up exactly what you mentioned but everyone's mind is already set to believe one thing.
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#25
Quote by cjblack532
Bush has barely any control over anything. It's all the congress. Your democratic congress. Notice all the bad things have been happening since the dems got congress? Guess what, that has nothing to do with the president.

The president is like the queen of England. No control. It's just a ceremonial position.


Excpet you know, that time where he vetoed that recent child health care bill.

Quote by cjblack532

Oh, and another thing. I'm not one of those idiot americans. I'm not a sheep. I know where Iraq is. I know where Iran is. I can tell you all the countries in Europe. We're not all stupid, but a lot of us American's are.


Capitalise 'Americans' then. Also, name all the countries in Europe then, without using Google or reference materials.

Quote by cjblack532

The thing ruining this country (our "cancer" if you will) is liberals who woo people with free healthcare and welfare. What they don't tell you is that the liberal way is a Socialist way. They want more government control and more taxation. That's communism. The liberals give you the RIAA raids, the MPAA militia, and Jack Thompson.


Do you pay taxes? Damn Liberals, wanting change. If America stuck to the way God intended with no interracial marriages, evolution or gender equality, the world would be a better place.

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Oh, and don't you DARE call me a sheep. I don't believe the media. The media is HEAVILY saturated with democrats. If you believe free healthcare is the right way to go, think. Who the **** is going to pay for it?


Bill, is that you? Plenty of countries have free health care. So do we. Admittedly though Britain's system needs improving...thank you Thatcher. As for paying for it? Tax ****. What do you care, it's not like you pay taxes and since you are on the internet and play guitar (not exactly a cheap hobby) I'm assuming that you are above the poverty line, so I'm sure your family can afford it. Though you might need to sell one of your Hummers...

Quote by cjblack532

If you still want it, think. You are going to be paying your hard earned dollars so some lazy asshole is going to sit on his ass all day and not work. Thank you Marx!


I bet you don't even have a job. Also, since when did Liberal turn into Marxist?
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However, I do not want to character assassinate all the liberals. There are good things about them too. But, I want your opinion.


You are everything that is wrong with America.
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#26
Quote by darthteet
Excpet you know, that time where he vetoed that recent child health care bill.


Capitalise 'Americans' then. Also, name all the countries in Europe then, without using Google or reference materials.


Do you pay taxes? Damn Liberals, wanting change. If America stuck to the way God intended with no interracial marriages, evolution or gender equality, the world would be a better place.


Bill, is that you? Plenty of countries have free health care. So do we. Admittedly though Britain's system needs improving...thank you Thatcher. As for paying for it? Tax ****. What do you care, it's not like you pay taxes and since you are on the internet and play guitar (not exactly a cheap hobby) I'm assuming that you are above the poverty line, so I'm sure your family can afford it. Though you might need to sell one of your Hummers...


I bet you don't even have a job. Also, since when did Liberal turn into Marxist?


You are everything that is wrong with America.
elitist much?
#27
Quote by ironman1478
elitist much?


Yes, the man that is willing to make personal sacrifices in exchange for a public health service is elitist. Not the kid spouting Bill O'Reilly style neo-con filth.

Also, that was an excellent rebuttal of the points I raised.
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#29
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and then in the end, it's just steal from the poor, give to the rich.


which, as callus as it sounds, is a very productive way to do things
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#30
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which, as callus as it sounds, is a very productive way to do things

i suppose. it would suck balls though.
#31
Quote by darthteet
Excpet you know, that time where he vetoed that recent child health care bill.


Capitalise 'Americans' then. Also, name all the countries in Europe then, without using Google or reference materials.


Do you pay taxes? Damn Liberals, wanting change. If America stuck to the way God intended with no interracial marriages, evolution or gender equality, the world would be a better place.


Bill, is that you? Plenty of countries have free health care. So do we. Admittedly though Britain's system needs improving...thank you Thatcher. As for paying for it? Tax ****. What do you care, it's not like you pay taxes and since you are on the internet and play guitar (not exactly a cheap hobby) I'm assuming that you are above the poverty line, so I'm sure your family can afford it. Though you might need to sell one of your Hummers...


I bet you don't even have a job. Also, since when did Liberal turn into Marxist?


You are everything that is wrong with America.

I think you've won this thread.
#32
Quote by frottage
i suppose. it would suck balls though.


well its not as much steal from the poor and give to the rich, it's don't give to those who don't care enough to get ahead, and don't take from those who do. not to sound like I worship Ayn Rand or anything, but I believe that a highly competitive free market is the best way to do things... in theory at least
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#34
Quote by cjblack532
Bush has barely any control over anything. It's all the congress. Your democratic congress. Notice all the bad things have been happening since the dems got congress? Guess what, that has nothing to do with the president.

The president is like the queen of England. No control. It's just a ceremonial position.

Oh, and another thing. I'm not one of those idiot americans. I'm not a sheep. I know where Iraq is. I know where Iran is. I can tell you all the countries in Europe. We're not all stupid, but a lot of us American's are.

The thing ruining this country (our "cancer" if you will) is liberals who woo people with free healthcare and welfare. What they don't tell you is that the liberal way is a Socialist way. They want more government control and more taxation. That's communism. The liberals give you the RIAA raids, the MPAA militia, and Jack Thompson.

Oh, and don't you DARE call me a sheep. I don't believe the media. The media is HEAVILY saturated with democrats. If you believe free healthcare is the right way to go, think. Who the **** is going to pay for it?

If you still want it, think. You are going to be paying your hard earned dollars so some lazy asshole is going to sit on his ass all day and not work. Thank you Marx!

However, I do not want to character assassinate all the liberals. There are good things about them too. But, I want your opinion.


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#35
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#36
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Completely disagree.

The thing tearing our country apart is partizinship in the first place. People thinking you *have* to be either dem or republican, either liberal or conservative.

The world isn't that black and white, and by trying to make it that way they're both destroying democracy as it was intended, and whitewashing all the issues so you don't know what's really going on. "I vote democrat because I'm a democrat" etc. It's stupid.

ALWAYS be wary when someone tries to over-simplify, "good vs bad" "us vs them" etc. It's a form of mind control and we're all falling for it.


i agree with both you and the threadstarter
#37
Quote by jacobs
well its not as much steal from the poor and give to the rich, it's don't give to those who don't care enough to get ahead, and don't take from those who do. not to sound like I worship Ayn Rand or anything, but I believe that a highly competitive free market is the best way to do things... in theory at least


Uh hu. So these people, as described by the bolded statement, aren't people, and, as per your constitution, bestowed with innate, self evident truths, such as the fact that they are people too and worthy of as much help as anyone else?
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#38
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well its not as much steal from the poor and give to the rich, it's don't give to those who don't care enough to get ahead, and don't take from those who do. not to sound like I worship Ayn Rand or anything, but I believe that a highly competitive free market is the best way to do things... in theory at least

oh okay. i don't think that sounds bad, lol. i just think that you should be able to keep whatever money you earn; i hate income tax. it's like the government thinks they're blessing you with a job, so you should pay them for it. idk. i don't get along with taxes or welfare very much. i also don't think people should be punished just because they have more money; everyone should pay an equal percentage or whatever, imo.
#39
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No man, you don't get it. It's free health care, that means nobody pays for it.
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#40
Portugal
Spain
England
Ireland
France
Germany
Poland
Latvia
Estonia
Lithuania
Belarus
Ukraine
Norway
Sweden
Finland
Servia
Kosovo
Greece
FYRO Macedonia
Bosnia-Herceg (It's hell to spell it)
Croatia
Italy
Switzerland
Czech Republic
Austria
Hungary
Slovakia
Slovenia
Romania
Moldova
Albania

There are a couple I am forgetting. But, there's no way to tell if I'm using Google or not. Oh, it's funny how people are saying I am a greedy capitalist? Did I say anything about Capitalism being good? Anything about conservativism? No. Liberalism pisses me off less.

Here's my spiel on Capitalism; it is the complete opposite. Only corporations win. That's right, I said it, nothing works. "If there's a new way, I'll be the first in line, but it better work this time." Like I said, Liberalism pisses me off the LEAST. Bush is an oil tycoon, and if it wasn't for him and the environmentalists, we'd be drilling in the Rockies and Alaska.

Are you honestly saying I am stupid because I forgot to capitalize one letter? You don't know what's on the other side of that computer screen. All you see is an avatar and a wall of text.
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