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#4
depends who
I respect 'em if they're actually impressive
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#5
I respect them. They put in a massive amounts of time to perfect and learn theory, scales, etc. and manage to play it well.
#6
yea depends if their a good shredder who puts time to be good not those half assed shredders who suck ass and can't play at all.
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#7
If said shredder doesn't partake in EPIK BENDZ, then they aren't respected by blues guitarists. At least from what I've seen.

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#8
Thing is, shredding is one thing within a guitarist's repertoire. More often than not, the guitarists that people refer to as shredders do a lot more than just shred, so it'd be stupid not to respect them. It's like not respecting a trumpet player because they use a mute sometimes.
#9
I don't like shredders with the shred attitude "Man, you can't shred, therefore, you suck"
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#10
Most guitarists I've seen have more than respect for shredders, then again, most of them aren't that smart. I'm not really into shred, but I have respect for some shredders.
#11
they have my respect
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yes and no, depends on if they have skill in it.... Like Yngwie Malmsteen

All Yngwie does is shred, though. Better examples would be versatile shredders like Vai and Petrucci.
#15
All good, level-headed guitarists deserve respect.
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#16
people who can shred think that people that cant suck at guitar. and theres always that one goth kid at a music store whaling away on scales with no rhyme or reason and pinch harmonic after pinch harmonic. i ****ING....HATE...THEM. they have no intention on buying anything, they just want to impress people.

overall, shredding does take practice and dedication so they get props for that, but shred meaningfully.
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#18
It depends. If they study theory, and practice hours on end then yes I respect them. If they are among the so called shredders from sub par metal core band then no. I don't respect them as much.
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#20
I respect their technical abilities, but I don't respect their ability to be boring as ****. To me, original memorable songwriting trumps all. Course, I'm not very good guitarist so maybe I'm just trying to make myself feel better.
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#22
No. I don't give respect to someone who can't write a song worth crap and instead starts sweeping up and down the neck over some drums.
sure, sweeping is hard to master but I only like it when it's used here and there.. I hate songs that are just constant shredding.. skill?
it takes skill to write a nice melodic solo.. not go up and down the fretboard really fast.

all I'm referring to is people who just constantly shred though..
but if you include people that like Joe Satriani and Steve Vai then I definatley respect them..

there's some people that can play fast and still make/ play other awesome stuff.
and other's that can't do anything but play fast.
like the song Arpeggios From Hell by Malmsteen.
yuck at that.

what I hate more is when people make speed as a reference to how good you are..
tons of people do this..
it's annoying really, like this one dude I know who can play really fast but really isn't that great at playing other stuff.
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#23
No. To me, they sound like ****.

Doesn't mean I disrespect them, but them being able to shred has no bearing whatsoever on how good I consider them.
And I mean that in the best possible way.
#24
I respect them because they've spent tons of time working on getting that fast, but I respect people who can play fast and still make it sound good even more.
#25
I respect them if they are truly great and when they aren't pompus douche bags that put you down for not being as good. I have friend who are shred masters but they are great and are nice/teach me tricks.
#26
good shredders are and should be respected

good shredders to me are good artists that can incorporated shred in there music when it fits

its about the music more then shredding

like satriani, vai, gilbert etc
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#27
It's not a matter of what you are able to do, it's what you do with what you are able to do.
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#28
Depends.
I was in this bluesman birthday, and there were tons of guitarists and we were jamming.
Among them, there was a guitarist that played for 30 years and shredded like a mother ****er.
Then there was a 50 something years old bluesman playing a squier.

I respected more the bluesman. However, I still respected a lot the another one.
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#29
If they have that egotistical asshat personality, no. If they're humble and cool people, I respect them.
#30
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No. I don't give respect to someone who can't write a song worth crap and instead starts sweeping up and down the neck over some drums.
sure, sweeping is hard to master but I only like it when it's used here and there.. I hate songs that are just constant shredding.. skill
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it takes skill to write a nice melodic solo.. not go up and down the fretboard really fast.

all I'm referring to is people who just constantly shred though..
but if you include people that like Joe Satriani and Steve Vai then I definatley respect them..

there's some people that can play fast and still make/ play other awesome stuff.
and other's that can't do anything but play fast.
like the song Arpeggios From Hell by Malmsteen.
yuck at that.

what I hate more is when people make speed as a reference to how good you are..
tons of people do this..
it's annoying really, like this one dude I know who can play really fast but really isn't that great at playing other stuff.



1. Whether you like it or not, can you just respect the player? I don't like FOB, but I respect them because they've made so much money.

2. And it DOESN'T take skill to go up and down the fretboard fast?

3. Because crappy noob guitarists can immediately play fast so speed doesn't show how good you are.


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#31
As electric guitarists? I respect them, relatively speaking.

As composers? I've never really been impressed by compositions featuring shredding.
#32
I think everybody has a different idea of what the term 'shred' is supposed to mean. The people who say they hate it think what it means by definition is pure wankery, and the people who say they love it think it means technical ability to play and compose musical pieces. I used to use the word to describe the latter and the term 'wankery' to describe the former but way too many people get the wrong idea when I say shred so I'm sick of using it.
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#33
Personally, it's hard to respect shredders when great jazz guitarists exist.

...modes and scales are still useless.


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#34
I don't respect them at all. I view shredding as an exercise in vanity rather than one in actual musicianship.
#35
yes, not people like dragonforce who pretend to play fast but MAB/yngwie who can and makle it sound good.

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1. Whether you like it or not, can you just respect the player? I don't like FOB, but I respect them because they've made so much money.

2. And it DOESN'T take skill to go up and down the fretboard fast?

3. Because crappy noob guitarists can immediately play fast so speed doesn't show how good you are.


Now kindly piss off


Of course it takes skill but speed isn't a count of how good you are at guitar.
There's many people who play much slower stuff and are seen as much better guitarists then others who make music that sounds like this "sofkasdofkdasokfasdofksdoafkasdfko"

You sound like one of those people who just suck and can't play anything worth crap so just shred away.

Lame.
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#37
If they can make music out of the shred, then yes. If all they do is run scales, then no.
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#38
Don't get me wrong, if it's reference to people who do more then just play extremely fast then it's fine.

But my point is I'd rather listen to this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4fPv450OYM
over this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aS_IYe5JTZ4

and if someone had never heard of either of those and automatically said "wow malmsteen is way better" then there another one of those annoying morons who thinks the faster you are the better you are at guitar overall, even if they can't do anything.

like I said not talking about the players, just making an example.. I know malmsteen does more then that

But since he's actually good at guitar I'd give more respect.. haven't really been referring to people who are good..

more like these people I know in real life who think they're really good when all they can do is play extremely fast.. can't keep a beat worth crap and things like that.

but if someone can fit shred into their music here and there and not just do it constantly then it's fine. :O
#39
Yes, the good ones are. If some talks **** about John Petrucci or someone of his level, they are just jealous.
#40
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If they can make music out of the shred, then yes. If all they do is run scales, then no.
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