#1
Im not a huge rap fan my self, but ive been listening to his stuff and wow, the messages are amazing ( its all about politics and what not)
Anyways, there's a song by him ( if anyone listens to him)
which has a great line along the lines of
"my black people shouldnt fear the white man they see, but fear the white man that they DONT see) I thought it was great, and would love to know which one of his songs has that line( its particularly about social democracy and ive been going crazy trying to find it out. ) if anyone could help me. please know that that line is not even 90 % accurate, its just the same message, so googleing that didnt help.
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#2
I love immortal technique.
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#3
try the "Other" forum in bands and artists.

there is a huge thread in there about Rap and Hip Hop. you probably will get a lot more help there. i know quite a few people that post in there like Immortal Technique.
#4
I do like him, but that song 'Tell The Truth' is just laughable.
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#7
Quote by GerGuam
So... does he play the instruments that appear in his songs?



No.


Why?
#9
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So... does he play the instruments that appear in his songs?

Let me guess "Hes nt a reel musishan then" .
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#10
Quote by kidsilcon
I do like him, but that song 'Tell The Truth' is just laughable.

Yeah, he made that song not in the literal sense, but rather to say that the president doesn't care about the American people.

Quote by Cause of Death by Immortal Technique
And just so Conservatives don't take it to heart,
I don't think Bush did it, 'cuz he isn't that smart.
He's just a stupid puppet taking orders on his cell phone,
From the same people that sabotaged Senator Wellstone.

...
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#11
Just assume either of these positions and everything will be okay:

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#12
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Just assume either of these positions and everything will be okay:


How does Immortal help this situation?
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#13
The song is Poverty of Philosophy.
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#14
Quote by walkinbazooka
Yeah, he made that song not in the literal sense, but rather to say that the president doesn't care about the American people.


...

Yeah but.

Bin Laden didn't blow up the projects
It was you, nigga
Tell the truth, nigga
(Bush knocked down the towers)
Tell the truth, nigga
(Bush knocked down the towers)
Tell the truth, nigga
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#15
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I was thinking the same thing...you win!
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FOR THE ADVANCEMENT OF THE HESSIAN CULTURE. STAY TRUE.
#16
Quote by kidsilcon
Yeah but.

Bin Laden didn't blow up the projects
It was you, nigga
Tell the truth, nigga
(Bush knocked down the towers)
Tell the truth, nigga
(Bush knocked down the towers)
Tell the truth, nigga

Erm, did you even read what I said? It's not meant to be literal.
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#17
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Erm, did you even read what I said? It's not meant to be literal.

I think he just means Bush didn't organize everything.
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#18
Quote by kidsilcon
I think he just means Bush didn't organize everything.

I don't understand. What are you saying?
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#20
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I don't understand. What are you saying?

"He's just a stupid puppet taking orders on his cell phone," Which means he did it, just not organize it, if you get what i mean.
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#21
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"He's just a stupid puppet taking orders on his cell phone," Which means he did it, just not organize it, if you get what i mean.

Oh Ok, I dunno he may have intended that to be the message. We only differ in our interpretation.
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#22
Quote by DanRev
No.


Why?

I might be able to respect him if he had. I checked out his song "Dance With the Devil" and it was about some "niggas" raping a woman. Then it was one of the "niggas" mom. Maybe I could respect him as a lyricist if he hadn't said "niggas" once or twice every line. Maybe as a musician if he could make his own music. Also, he uses the type of rhyming structure that is ridiculously predictable and boring. TBH I don't see why so many pit dwellers are so eager to suck his musical-penis.
#23
Quote by GerGuam
I might be able to respect him if he had. I checked out his song "Dance With the Devil" and it was about some "niggas" raping a woman. Then it was one of the "niggas" mom. Maybe I could respect him as a lyricist if he hadn't said "niggas" once or twice every line. Maybe as a musician if he could make his own music. Also, he uses the type of rhyming structure that is ridiculously predictable and boring. TBH I don't see why so many pit dwellers are so eager to suck his musical-penis.



Why does it bother you that people like him?

The lyrics are about much more than rape. They're "deeper" than half the rock lyrics I've heard, and at least these lyrics arent pretentious.
#24
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What's wrong with using the word niggas?


I like him. Thee song 4th branch is really good.
"Why should we subsidise intellectual curiosity?"
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#25
Genius

I'M FROM WHERE THE GOLD AND DIAMONDS ARE RIPPED FROM THE EARTH,
RIGHT NEXT TO THE SLAVE CASTLES WHERE THE WATER IS CURSED,
FROM WHERE POLICE BRUTALITY'S NOT HALF AS NICE,
IT MAKES THE HOOD IN AMERICA LOOK LIKE PARADISE,
COMPARED TO THE AIDS INFESTED CARIBBEAN SLUM,
AFRICAN STREETS WHERE THE PASSPORTS AN AMERICAN GUN,
FROM WHERE THEY MASSACRE PEOPLE AND TRY TO KEEP IT QUIET,
AND SPEND THE NEXT 25 YEARS TRYNA DENY IT,
I'M FROM WHERE THEY CUT YOUR HANDS OFF IF YOU MAKE A FIST,
AND NIGGAZ GROW COCA CUZ THE JOB MARKET DOESN'T EXIST,
EXCEPT SLAVE LABOR MODERN DAY COMPANY STORE,
PEACEKEEPERS DON'T EVER, EVER, EVER COME HERE NO MORE,
I'M FROM WHERE THE BOMBS THAT THEY USED TO DROP ON THE VIETNAM,
STILL HAS CHILDREN BORN DEFORMED 8MONTH BEFORE THEY GONE,
I'M FROM WHERE THEY LOST THE TRUE MEANING OF THE QUR'AN,
CUZ HEROIN IS NOT COMPATIBLE WITH ISLAM,
AND NIGGAZ KNOW THAT BUT GROW THAT POPPY SEED ANYWAY,
CUZ THAT FOOD DROP PARACHUTE DOES NOT COME EVERYDAY,
I'M FROM WHERE PEOPLE PRAY TO THE GODS OF THEIR CONQUERORS,
AND PRACTICALLY EVERY PRESIDENTS A MONEY LAUNDERER,
FROM WHERE THE ONLY PLACE DEMOCRACIES ACCEPTABLE,
IS IF AMERICA'S CANDIDATE IS ELECTABLE,
AND THEY MIGHT EVEN HAVE A BLACK PRESIDENT BUT HE'S USELESS,
CUZ HE DOES NOT CONTROL THE ECONOMY STUPID


1. LOCK AND LOAD YOUR GUN WHERE I'M FROM THE 3RD WORLD SON
BEEN TO MANY PLACES BUT I'M 3RD WORLD BORN,

2. GUERILLAS HIT AND RUN WHERE I'M FROM THE 3RD WORLD SON
YOU POLLUTED EVERYTHING AND NOW THE 3RD WORLD'S GONE.

3. THE WATER IS POISONED WHERE I'M FROM THE 3RD WORLD SON
700 CHILDREN DIED BY THE END OF THIS SONG,

4. REVOLUTIONA COME WHERE I'M FROM THE 3RD WORLD SON
CONSTANT OCCUPATION LEAVES THE 3RD WORLD TORN.


I'M FROM WHERE THE CATHOLIC CHURCH IS SOME RACIST ****,
THEY HELPED EUROPE AND AMERICA RAPE THIS BITCH,
THEY PRAY TO WHITE SPANISH JESUS WHOSE FACE IS THIS,
BUT NEVER TALK ABOUT THE BLACK POPE GELASIUS,
I'M FROM WHERE SOVIET WEAPONS STILL DECIDE ELECTIONS,
MILITARY'S LIKE THE MAFIA YOU PAY FOR PROTECTION,
CATAMITE SEX TOURS IS WHAT COUNTRY SELLS,
AND RICH WHITE BUSINESS MEN MAKE THE BEST CLIENTELE,
I'M FROM WHERE THEY TOO PUSSY TO COME FILM SURVIVOR,
AND THEY MURDER COCA COLA UNION ORGANIZERS,
I'M FROM WHERE THE JUSTICE SYSTEM ESTA PODRIDO,
**** GOVERNMENT NIGGAZ POLITIC OVER PERICO,
REBELDE CONCIDO, ENTERADO VIVO, COMO OTRO ARGENTINO DESAPARECIDO, THE TRICOLORES DON'T APPLY TO THE CIA,
AND MUTHA****AZ MAKE SNEAKERS FOR A QUARTER A DAY,
I'M FROM WHERE THEY OVERTHROW DEMOCRATIC LEADERS,
NOT FOR THE PEOPLE, BUT FOR THE WALL STREET JOURNAL READERS,
FROM WHERE BLACKS, INDIGENOUS PEOPLES AND ASIANS,
WERE ONCE THE SLAVES OF CAUCASIANS,
AND IT'S AMAZIN HOW THEY TRAINED THEM,
TO BE RACIST AGAINST THEMSELVES IN THE PLACE THEY WAS RAISED IN,
YOU KEPT US CAGED IN,
DESTROYED OUR CULTURE AND SAID THAT YOU CIVILIZED US,
RAPED OUR WOMEN AND WHEN WE BORN YOU DESPISED US,
GENTRIFIED US AGENT PROVOCATEUR DIVIDE US,
AND CRUCIFIED EVERY REVOLUTIONARY MESSIAH,
SO I'MA START A GLOBAL RIOT,
NOT EVEN YOUR FAKE, ANTI-COMMUNIST DICTATORS CAN KEEP QUIET,
**** YOUR CHARITY MEDICINE TRYNA MURDER ME,
THE IMMUNIZATIONS YOU GAVE US WERE FULL OF MERCURY,
SO NOW I SEE THE 3RD WORLD LIKE THE RAP GAME SOLDIER,
NATIONALIZE THE INDUSTRY AND TAKE IT OVER

Genius
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#27
good but overrated
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#29
Immortal technique is just another wanna be "Deep" person.
There is alot of racist "blame the white man for everything"
mentality in his music.

In America we have bastardized the english language to the point
where we dont even know what words mean anymore...

Racism is not acceptable for whites...but it is tolerated for blacks..
Because of the past society feels as if it makes you a racist if you
are white and offended by something racist a black person said.


Most people dont care about Immortal technique because racist
messages put out by blacks is tolerated because of slavery in
America. I dont believe that people should carry racist attitudes..
but I also believe that white Americans that are good people should
have to tolerate retarded BS like Immortal technique because of some
guilt they are "supposed" to carry for what their ancestors did.
You can even get away with saying all kinds of things if you just claim
to be mixed with black...like this guy..

Most people are not willing to spend life in prison for their own siblings
crime. So why should white Americans have to tolerate nonsense like
this? I dont think they should...Just as I am a black American and I dont
feel like i should have to hear racist messages through someones car
stereo either..

Most people like Immortal Technique get on my nerves. They just blame the
white man for everything. This myth of a White man in an office somewhere
gets more credit for things he never did than Satan..lol.. When you look at it
most of these conspiracies that blame the white man for everything are actually
an excuse for people that are too lazy to try to succeed in life.

I look at black guys sometimes that have a racist attitude towards
a 30 yr old Irish guy..and its just crazy to me..because they dont even realise that
his parents or grandparents where immigrants to this country less than 100 years
ago. Alot of white Americans have ancestry that arrived to this country less than
100 years ago..and were looked down apon as low class people..But people like
Immortal Technique dont read at all..This is what happens when you let a person
teach you about politics that doesnt even know the history of their own country..

Yes Immortal Technique...Immortal Technique of hate and ignorance...

Just because some white people are racist does not mean that every single white
American has to answer for it. Racist people are a sub-culture of their race...they
dont speak for the whole. Its the same as racist blacks and career criminals...they
are a sub-culture of black America. Dont ask me why they do what they do..I cant
tell you. My mind works a different way. I am of a different sub-culture of black
America.

I've seen guys like this all my life..They talk about all these problems...

Never get on the internet and make one website for a charity..
Never give one dime towards charity..
Never push one rake to make a park beautiful..
never even offer one solution...

There are real issues in his music..but he mixes them with propaganda IMO.
This is the most successful way to pervert the minds of troubled teens..
Alot of you guys the read this may not agree because you may not have
a troubled mind or troubled home..but teens that are vulnerable and need
to fit in get in to very destructive lives from stuff like this..I dont mean to
sound like a soccer mom..lol...but ive seen alot of troubled kids lives get
ruined because they had a need to fit in...and were recruited into gangs
and racists groups the same way...
I bet Charlie Brown's teacher's name was Mrs.Hammett
Last edited by Washburnd Fretz at Jun 17, 2008,
#30
Quote by GerGuam
I might be able to respect him if he had. I checked out his song "Dance With the Devil" and it was about some "niggas" raping a woman. Then it was one of the "niggas" mom. Maybe I could respect him as a lyricist if he hadn't said "niggas" once or twice every line. Maybe as a musician if he could make his own music. Also, he uses the type of rhyming structure that is ridiculously predictable and boring. TBH I don't see why so many pit dwellers are so eager to suck his musical-penis.

If you actually listen, the lyrics are much deeper than that and actually mean something.
Immortal Technique is one of my favorite rappers. Saw him at Tigerfest with The Roots :-D

That said, I completely agree with the points about racism in the above post.
Last edited by saxaxe at Jun 17, 2008,
#31
I like him. While the lyrics might all be wannabe-political tinfoil hattery and he might not actually play any instruments, the lyrics are actually interesting and the loops usually create a great atmosphere. I really like Cause Of Death and Obnoxious.
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#32
Quote by Washburnd Fretz
Immortal technique is just another wanna be "Deep" person.
There is alot of racist "blame the white man for everything"
mentality in his music.

In America we have bastardized the english language to the point
where we dont even know what words mean anymore...

Racism is not acceptable for whites...but it is tolerated for blacks..
Because of the past society feels as if it makes you a racist if you
are white and offended by something racist a black person said.


Most people dont care about Immortal technique because racist
messages put out by blacks is tolerated because of slavery in
America. I dont believe that people should carry racist attitudes..
but I also believe that white Americans that are good people should
have to tolerate retarded BS like Immortal technique because of some
guilt they are "supposed" to carry for what their ancestors did.
You can even get away with saying all kinds of things if you just claim
to be mixed with black...like this guy..

Most people are not willing to spend life in prison for their own siblings
crime. So why should white Americans have to tolerate nonsense like
this? I dont think they should...Just as I am a black American and I dont
feel like i should have to hear racist messages through someones car
stereo either..

Most people like Immortal Technique get on my nerves. They just blame the
white man for everything. This myth of a White man in an office somewhere
gets more credit for things he never did than Satan..lol.. When you look at it
most of these conspiracies that blame the white man for everything are actually
an excuse for people that are too lazy to try to succeed in life.

I look at black guys sometimes that have a racist attitude towards
a 30 yr old Irish guy..and its just crazy to me..because they dont even realise that
his parents or grandparents where immigrants to this country less than 100 years
ago. Alot of white Americans have ancestry that arrived to this country less than
100 years ago..and were looked down apon as low class people..But people like
Immortal Technique dont read at all..This is what happens when you let a person
teach you about politics that doesnt even know the history of their own country..

Yes Immortal Technique...Immortal Technique of hate and ignorance...

Just because some white people are racist does not mean that every single white
American has to answer for it. Racist people are a sub-culture of their race...they
dont speak for the whole. Its the same as racist blacks and career criminals...they
are a sub-culture of black America. Dont ask me why they do what they do..I cant
tell you. My mind works a different way. I am of a different sub-culture of black
America.

I've seen guys like this all my life..They talk about all these problems...

Never get on the internet and make one website for a charity..
Never give one dime towards charity..
Never push one rake to make a park beautiful..
never even offer one solution...

There are real issues in his music..but he mixes them with propaganda IMO.
This is the most successful way to pervert the minds of troubled teens..
Alot of you guys the read this may not agree because you may not have
a troubled mind or troubled home..but teens that are vulnerable and need
to fit in get in to very destructive lives from stuff like this..I dont mean to
sound like a soccer mom..lol...but ive seen alot of troubled kids lives get
ruined because they had a need to fit in...and were recruited into gangs
and racists groups the same way...


From Poverty of Philosophy

"My enemy is not the average white man, it's not the kid down the block or the kids I see on the street; my enemy is the white man I don't see: the people in the white house, the corporate monopoly owners, fake liberal politicians those are my enemies. The generals of the armies that are mostly conservatives those are the real Mother-****ers that I need to bring it to, not the poor, broke country-ass soldier that's too stupid to know **** about the way things are set up.

In fact, I have more in common with most working and middle-class white people than I do with most rich black and Latino people. As much as racism bleeds America, we need to understand that classism is the real issue. Many of us are in the same boat and it's sinking, while these bougie Mother-****ers ride on a luxury liner, and as long as we keep fighting over kicking people out of the little boat we're all in, we're gonna miss an opportunity to gain a better standard of living as a whole. "
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#33
Immortal Technique makes me lol.

His lyrics are pretty shitty; that said I have both Revolutionary vols and still listen occasionally.
#34
Thanks to who ever helped. I love most of his stuff, but he does seem way to angry, all of the time. I don't agree with everything, but as far as his mindset on classism and politicians go, i do agree.
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#35
I think he's good. But if you listen to his freestyles it's the same thing every time.
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#36
My favorite lyrics of his are the hidden track in Dance with the Devil where he attacks all the radio rap guys.

Oh, you mother ****ers thought it was over, huh
Well its not,
you didn't count on a fallen angel getting back into the grace of God and coming after you
Ya'll niggaz ain't ****
Your producers ain't ****
Your ****ing A & R ain't ****
I'll ****ing wipe my ass with your demo deal
Yo Diabolic, take this mother ****er's head off

[Diabolic]
Go ahead and grip glocks
I'll snap your trigger finger in six spots
You'll have to lip lock with hypodermic needles to lick shots
I'll watch you topple flat
Put away your rings and holla back
Can't freestyle, you're screwed off the top like bottle caps
Beneath the surface, I'm over heating your receiving circuits
By unleashing deeper verses than priests speak in churches
What you preach is worthless Your worship defeat the purpose
Like President Bush taking bullets for the Secret Service
Beyond what ya'll fathom I **** on cats and jaw tap em
Show no compassion like having a straight faced orgasm
Tour jack em, have his half a ten bitch suck my friend's dick
In the mean time, you can French kiss this clenched fist
Diabolic, a one man brigade spreading cancer plague
This ****ing a pussy's face, holding a hand grenade
So if I catch you bluffin'
Faggot, you're less than nothing
I just had to get that stress off my chest like breast reduction

[Technique]
You mother ****ers are nothing
You cannot harm me
I'll resurrect every aborted baby and start an army
Storm the planet hunting you down cuz I'm on a mission
To split your body into a billion one-celled organisms
Immortal Technique will destroy your religion you stupid bitch
You're faker than blue-eyed crackers nailed to a crucifix
I'm bout to blow up like Nasa Challenger computer chips
Arsenic language transmitted revolutionarily
I'm like time itself, I'm gunna kill you inevitably
Chemically bomb you, **** using a chrome piece
I'm Illmatic, you won't make it home like Jerome's niece
I'll sever your head diagonally for thinking of dissin' me
And then ill use your dead body to write my name in calligraphy
This public democracy, brain washed your psychology
So you're nothing like diversity without equality
And your crew is full of more faggots than Greek mythology
Using numerology, to count the people I sent to Heaven
Produces more digits than 22 divided by 7
You're like Kevin Spacey, your style is usually suspect
You never killed a cop, you not a mother ****ing thug yet
Your mind is empty and spacious
Like the part of the brain that appreciates culture in a racist
Face it, you too basic, you're never gunna make it
Like children walking through Antarctica, butt naked