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#1
hi, can someone help me with this? what im trying to find out is what pedal sounds exactly like the metal distortion on a Line 6 Spider II amp. The thing is, when i jam with my other guitarist, his distortion totally different from mine, so when we play together, it sounds like ****. He uses pedals and all this stuff. I have simple Line 6 Spider II amp, no pedals or anything. We all settle on the fact that my distortion sounds better, so does anyone know what pedal he can buy that sounds like my distortion?
Remember: Line 6 Spider II amp, Metal on the Green LED, extra distortion on, and i forgot the tone settings. Someone help me out?
#4
Maybe a Line 6 Uber Metal. I don't know I haven't used either.
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#6
i could **** in a box, put input and output jacks on it, and ship it to you, Lets say $150 shipped? give me your address.
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i could **** in a box, put input and output jacks on it, and ship it to you, Lets say $150 shipped? give me your address.


I'll do the same, but for only $100!
hah!
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#8
Quote by xMikeyxMetalx
I'll do the same, but for only $100!
hah!

but mine has true bypass and some esoteric chip that i will charge alot for when someone could just buy it themselves for like $1, just like the big companies. lets see you top that, Mikey metal. haha
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#9
You want to sound like a line 6 spider? maybe just toss a bee hive there. That way you won't even need to play the guitar!
#10
I would really like to hear what amp he has and what settings/guitar when you actually agree that your tone is the best.
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#11
Quote by chea_man
i could **** in a box, put input and output jacks on it, and ship it to you, Lets say $150 shipped? give me your address.

thats probaly the best idea but if thats to expensive i would say the uber metal
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#12
so basically, ur trying to model a model amp's distortion. ur a dumbass
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#13
Quote by chea_man
but mine has true bypass and some esoteric chip that i will charge alot for when someone could just buy it themselves for like $1, just like the big companies. lets see you top that, Mikey metal. haha


Mine has twice as much **** as yours
and it has pedal armor
similar to the ones they make for the marshall MG
if i had photoshop i'd show you and was remotely good with it.
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#14
Quote by xMikeyxMetalx
Mine has twice as much **** as yours
and it has pedal armor
similar to the ones they make for the marshall MG
if i had photoshop i'd show you and was remotely good with it.
win

damn.
maybe our companies should merge.
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#15
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damn.
maybe our companies should merge.


i agree, first order of business:
we create a monster of an amp that will rival the greatness of the MG100HDFX.
we won't use digital bees though, we're going analog with real ****ing bees!
It's a sure success.
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#16
Boss MT-2! lol personally i wouldn't ever... usually... recommend that but it might sound similar to a spider
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#17
Quote by xMikeyxMetalx
i agree, first order of business:
we create a monster of an amp that will rival the greatness of the MG100HDFX.
we won't use digital bees though, we're going analog with real ****ing bees!
It's a sure success.

**** yeah, it might be hard to keep bears away from the amp when its dripping in honey haha.
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#18
Lol. I really wanna know what amp his friend has.
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#19
£20 says it's a marshall MG
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#21
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**** yeah, it might be hard to keep bears away from the amp when its dripping in honey haha.


well it will smell good at least...
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#22
wow woww, holy crap i did not think this forum is full of stuck up people. first, this isnt real equipment, just practice equipment thats cheap, sounds decent, and my friend needs the same sound otherwise our 2 different distortions together sounds weird. you know what, thats great you guys have equipment thats 1000x better. no need to to be douches. for those who actually tried helping me out, thank you
#23
Well also why does two differant distortions sound bad together. I would think that its just two bad distortions rather than that they are differant. Most bands with two guitarists try to have differant tones than the other guitarist.
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#24
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wow woww, holy crap i did not think this forum is full of stuck up people. first, this isnt real equipment, just practice equipment thats cheap, sounds decent, and my friend needs the same sound otherwise our 2 different distortions together sounds weird. you know what, thats great you guys have equipment thats 1000x better. no need to to be douches. for those who actually tried helping me out, thank you


the roland cubes sound better than the spider and whatever amp your friend has + a pedal, and its cheap. so yeah, they have a right to be "stuck up"
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#25
Quote by InanezGuitars44
the roland cubes sound better than the spider and whatever amp your friend has + a pedal, and its cheap. so yeah, they have a right to be "stuck up"


+1 all you need to do is just sell everything and buy something that wasnt mass produced by a cheap modeling guitar amp company trying to scam little kids.

Just to be helpful. A line 6 uber metal distortion pedal will do it
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#26
Quote by RaphaelxxxYuki
wow woww, holy crap i did not think this forum is full of stuck up people. first, this isnt real equipment, just practice equipment thats cheap, sounds decent, and my friend needs the same sound otherwise our 2 different distortions together sounds weird. you know what, thats great you guys have equipment thats 1000x better. no need to to be douches. for those who actually tried helping me out, thank you

its not because people are stuck up. a lot of the people who bash these amps own them or have owned them and then realised how crap they are a few months down the line. I dodged a bullet, i almost bought one of those amps when i was a noob, then i tried a tube amp and it all became clear to me.

i'd have thought the line 6 uber metal would sound similar, in a better sort of way (well, that depends on whether your friends amp handles the same volume). What amp does he have?
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#27
Quote by RaphaelxxxYuki
wow woww, holy crap i did not think this forum is full of stuck up people. first, this isnt real equipment, just practice equipment thats cheap, sounds decent, and my friend needs the same sound otherwise our 2 different distortions together sounds weird. you know what, thats great you guys have equipment thats 1000x better. no need to to be douches. for those who actually tried helping me out, thank you


Two different tones shouldn't sound bad together, if anything they will compliment each other and beef up the sound. It sounds more like you two aren't in tune to me.

I own a Spider II and thought it was awesome at first, then i realized my distortion was pure mud. It sounds better than an MG though.
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#28
Quote by RaphaelxxxYuki
wow woww, holy crap i did not think this forum is full of stuck up people. first, this isnt real equipment, just practice equipment thats cheap, sounds decent, and my friend needs the same sound otherwise our 2 different distortions together sounds weird. you know what, thats great you guys have equipment thats 1000x better. no need to to be douches. for those who actually tried helping me out, thank you


You're probably out of tune with each other. You don't want two of the same sound or there won't be any point to there being two of you.
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#29
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You're probably out of tune with each other. You don't want two of the same sound or there won't be any point to there being two of you.

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#30
^^I was going to make a similar point. It's not necessarily bad to sound different. Maybe your friend should aim more towards sounding better than he does rather than sounding more like you. In which case, we would need his equipment. Now, if you're still set on him sounding just like you, I can be of little or no help.
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#31
ok i understand what you guys are saying, but i need a lot of money for good stuff, this stuff is cheap and sounds ok for now, im not going all out right now. ok what my friend has is a marshall, with a metal zone pedal, if you heard his distortion, it sounds more like distorted noise than playing the actual notes on a guitar. yeah i know line 6 spider II are bull**** but at least when im playing it through distortion it actually sounds like i can hear each note rather than just distorted noise like my friend's. and yes, we are in tune.
#32
Quote by RaphaelxxxYuki
ok i understand what you guys are saying, but i need a lot of money for good stuff, this stuff is cheap and sounds ok for now, im not going all out right now. ok what my friend has is a marshall, with a metal zone pedal, if you heard his distortion, it sounds more like distorted noise than playing the actual notes on a guitar. yeah i know line 6 spider II are bull**** but at least when im playing it through distortion it actually sounds like i can hear each note rather than just distorted noise like my friend's. and yes, we are in tune.

thats because of the amp and the distortion pedal, they both have the worst distorted tones ever.
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#34
Get your friend to sell his amp and pedal and buy a used spider II the same as yours.
#35
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so basically, ur trying to model a model amp's distortion. ur a dumbass

you, sir, win.
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#36
You need to makes sure neither of you simply have poor tone, and then work on EQing.

EQing makes a massive difference in sound.
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#37
Solution...

Get a tube amp...

make him then try to sound like you...
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#38
Quote by RaphaelxxxYuki
ok i understand what you guys are saying, but i need a lot of money for good stuff, this stuff is cheap and sounds ok for now, im not going all out right now. ok what my friend has is a marshall, with a metal zone pedal, if you heard his distortion, it sounds more like distorted noise than playing the actual notes on a guitar. yeah i know line 6 spider II are bull**** but at least when im playing it through distortion it actually sounds like i can hear each note rather than just distorted noise like my friend's. and yes, we are in tune.


Can he drop the metal zone pedal? His amps distortion might sound better, but that may be a stretch. There's no pedal to fix his mediocre amp, he's stuck with what he has. I suggest he sale it and get a Roland Cube of some sort. You could even consider the same thing.
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#39
Quote by RaphaelxxxYuki
ok i understand what you guys are saying, but i need a lot of money for good stuff, this stuff is cheap and sounds ok for now, im not going all out right now. ok what my friend has is a marshall, with a metal zone pedal, if you heard his distortion, it sounds more like distorted noise than playing the actual notes on a guitar. yeah i know line 6 spider II are bull**** but at least when im playing it through distortion it actually sounds like i can hear each note rather than just distorted noise like my friend's. and yes, we are in tune.


First of all, I've played both the MG and Spider side by side many times and imo the MG sounds like much less of a box of bees than the Spider does, but still neither is great.

What are the settings on his amp and what are the settings on his metal zone? The amp distortion probably sounds better by itself than with the MT-2 on the clean channel, maybe try that. Also, the MT-2 is VERY easy to get to sound like ****, you need to set those things right to get any decent distortion out of it and I'm willing to bet his is set with a lot of stuff maxed.

Also... Don't scoop your mids. You won't be able to hear eachother and could be resulting in the crap sound he's getting.
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#40
Everything is relative as einstein says. And tho a spider does sound bad it would sound better than a MG being pushed by a crappy distortion pedal. But trying to mimic the sound and tone of a spider amp, bleah.
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