#1
Looking to spend about -400 USD on a guitar. I play classic rock, and hard rock up to Black Sabbath. MiM HSS Strat, Ibanez 2EX1, or Epiphone SG-400?
#2
mim hss strat - definitely go for this in my opinion, play around with a few and pick the best one
ibanez - never really heard of this guitar usual for harder metal sounds
sg - ive rarely heard any good things about this guitar until they had a pickup changef

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Yeh the SICK! bit sounds a bit stupid.

#3
mim strat......i like the sound of the g400 but the neckdive just sucks.
#5
can a fat strat cover some hard rock well like Black Sabbath and Metallica? Thats the only thing I'm worried about. Always heard that a Strat is more for blues
#7
the hss strat can

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Yeh the SICK! bit sounds a bit stupid.

#8
A fat Strat should do fine, especially considering you want that versatility. If you wanted to play more Metallica, etc. then I would say you'd something heavier. But if you want to be able to hit all of those genres, the fat strat will be great b/c of the humbucker/single/single combo.
#9
Usually, anything with a humbucker can cover hard rock and metal. And given that the MIM Strat has generally better pickups than the Epi, it will do the job even better.

I've never heard of that Ibanez and can't find it in the '08 Ibanez catalogue . Could you post a link to it?
#11
strat for sure. Some MiM's are better than others, look around for one of the better ones.
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#13
I would say the Epiphone... but that's just because it's more versatile in the rock genre (than the strat). Not to mention, if you buy the strat, you will have the hum in your mid and neck pickups... to which, you will really need to buy a noise suppressor or switch out the pickups for noiseless.

Stay away from that Ibanez.
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#14
That Ibanez looks pretty good to me, at least when talking about specs - I have never seen one of these before.
I'd still take the Strat over it though, as it is more versatile because of the HSS configuration. Cleans just sound better with single coils than with humbuckers (as a rule of thumb, anyway).

The Epi is not bad, but the other two guitars outclass it, mainly because of the horrid Epiphone stock pickups.
#15
Hmm... so If i buy the Strat, I'll have to spend even more to get rid of the hum
#16
Quote by heyguys
Hmm... so If i buy the Strat, I'll have to spend even more to get rid of the hum

No, no. If you get the HSS Strat, the bridge pickup (a humbucker) won't hum, so it's a good option if you wanted to go heavier--because humbuckers do heavier better and the high gain won't exaggerate the hum, because it won't be there.
#17
go with the sg, it's extremely versatile, plus as far as epiphones go, the sg is one of the better choices, some of the les pauls have been a little sub-par that I've played.

I've always thought the mim strat didn't have a lot of range, that could just be me though, I hate the idea of never getting away from the twangy tone.
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#18
K thx; I'll try out all the Strats at GC this weekend. Probably be taking home a Arctic White Fat Strat with a maple neck, that thing looks so sweet
#19
Quote by heyguys
Hmm... so If i buy the Strat, I'll have to spend even more to get rid of the hum

It hums only when using the single coils, and it's barely noticable unless you use lot's of gain. You probably will use them for cleans most of the time anyway, just because hi-gain settings sound so much better through the humbucker.

Seriously, the hum is one of the last things to worry about. Many people use single coil guitars, and it doesn't bother them.

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#20
Quote by Rufiothebandito
go with the sg, it's extremely versatile, plus as far as epiphones go, the sg is one of the better choices, some of the les pauls have been a little sub-par that I've played.

I've always thought the mim strat didn't have a lot of range, that could just be me though, I hate the idea of never getting away from the twangy tone.

He's thinking about an HSS though, much less twang with the humbucker.

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K thx; I'll try out all the Strats at GC this weekend. Probably be taking home a Arctic White Fat Strat with a maple neck, that thing looks so sweet

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It hums only when using the single coils, and it's barely noticable unless you use lot's of gain. You probably will use them for cleans most of the time anyway, just because hi-gain settings sound so much better through the humbucker.

Seriously, the hum is one of the last things to worry about. Many people use single coil guitars, and it doesn't bother them.


Yeah, complaining about the hum is as frivolous as the guy around here who said that some people don't like the warm up time on tubes amps. Seriously, how big of a deal could it be? Haha.
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#21
get a HSS strat

and do a small rewire so that the second tone knob controls the tone of the humbucker instead of the middle single coil, and you're set.
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#22
Quote by lithium26
get a HSS strat

and do a small rewire so that the second tone knob controls the tone of the humbucker instead of the middle single coil, and you're set.

Also a great idea.

Like this:

http://www.bothners.co.za/articles/hotrodstrat4.shtml

Except with a humbucker instead of a single coil. Don't have any schematics for that exact mod though. I would love some though
#23
I got a RG2550Z Ibanez and I can play anything on this, blues, classic rock, metal. It does it all. But they generally used for heavy rock and metal, the better models are very nice. To me this is a bad comparison, strats to gibson; yes. Ibanex to ESP or Jackson; yes. Hopefully I make sense???? . If I had a pick of a mint strat vs my Ibanez, strat is a classic! And the thought of owning a Strat and bragging is more understood to non-music peeps then saying u got an Ibanez...
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#24
I dunno what's up with all the Epi hating. My G-400 was far better playing and more versatile than any of the MIM Strats I played at GC.
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#25
Oh yeah, and my Strat hums ridiculously when I turn the amp past 4.
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#26
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Oh yeah, and my Strat hums ridiculously when I turn the amp past 4.

It's a Squier. Not the same thing.
#27
idk about the rest of you ppl but i find the sg much easier playing then strats. for some reason i just hate the neck on the strat. and i find it more difficult to do a harmonic pinch on the strat and easier to shred. the sg also has a more punchier sound