#1
Hey there UG guitar builders. I've been reading the gear building threads for a while and decided to post about this 1st project I have been considering.

I've really enjoyed all of your builds, BTW. There's some killer work showing here!

I have this SG guitar that I inherited from an uncle. It's been neglected and someone previously sanded off the original finish and possibly stained the wood.

It has Spretlze machine heads on it with screw holes showing from where original tuners were removed. The volume/tone caps appear to be from a different guitar, possibly an LP. The pick guard looks original and the electronics in the cavity appear to possibly be original. The electronics 'crackle' a bit and have very low output. I'm not sure if the pick-ups are the original ones installed by the factory.

I believe it is a mahogany body/neck and possibly an original Gibson SG. I'm not a Gibson expert, but the truss rod hole cover says 'Gibson' on it and from what I have seen of a few other guitars, it looks like it might be Gibson. Any thoughts as to its originality and how to verify it without the S/N (sanded off - ouch)?

So I am considering refinishing it, painting it a solid color (possibly white) and refurbing the hardware/electronics, maybe keeping the Sprezles.

I've read the tutorials at stewmac and reranch, but have some questions about how to get started. Would I need to sand the wood (to remove the stain or for any other purpose) and do a wood grain filler?

The texture is currently pretty smooth and there doesn't appear to be any scratches or dings. I'm guessing that someone did the filler and a sealer coat with the stain job. Pictures to follow.
#3
ok, i say,, finish it with a cherry oil stain to let the grain shine through, buy the full SG pickguard, install a SD Screamin' Demon pup in the bridge, and buy new knobs and maybe an original Gibson logo to put on the headstock. also, that headstock doesnt look like a real Gibson at all, but maybe its just my eyes...? idk, but still ,...yea

edit: oh and maybe a set of Grovers
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#4
its an epiphone, they put epiphone on the headstock and gibson on the truss rod cover. Looking at the shape of the head, im nearly sure its an epi. If it was a real gibson, the truss rod cover would also have two screws in it, not 3
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#5
Cool. Thanks for the replies. Well, since it's probably an Epi then I won't feel so bad about whoever sanded it down and made the original mods. I might have felt a little guilty refinishing a Gibson as my 1st whack at it...you know, if it doesn't go all that well. Ha ha.

...and no, I am not implying that Epi's aren't worthy. They're mostly good guitars, too.
#6
I dont know, it has the gibson headstock.
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#7
^ i'd go with epiphone too... i know that truss rod cover from an epi that i have . also, aren't most gibsons made without a scarf joint typically? or do they scarf them now and just now back in the old days?
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#8
i dunno... Is there not a serial number on it?
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^ i'd go with epiphone too... i know that truss rod cover from an epi that i have . also, aren't most gibsons made without a scarf joint typically? or do they scarf them now and just now back in the old days?


I've been eyeing your LP project, man. It's the bomb...great project thread.
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i dunno... Is there not a serial number on it?


From what I've been able to get off of the web, Gibson uses a decal or paint on the back of the headstock for S/Ns. This was removed when a previous owner sanded the finish off of the guitar.

You can still see original red paint at the neck/body joint. Don't know why they couldn't have sanded those spots since they put the effort into the rest of it. There's a littlie bit on the side of the neck, not pictured, as well.
#11
i dunno, epiphones now come standard with more orange coloured control knobs, that is more of a yellow/gold like gibsons

but the headstock looks to be more epi like
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#12
to be fair though mate, it doesn't take much to change a toggle switch tip, could be that the previous owner just changed it.
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#13
looks nice man!
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I noticed looking at images of Epi's that their headstocks have two more arch notches. Both corners of the wing tips are notched out. But some of you are right, the Epi truss rod covers look like this one, where the Gibsons mostly appear to have two screws and say 'SG' on them.

Whatever, right...it's going to be turned into a players axe anyway.

I'm planning on solid white. I think I likely will need to use grain filler and a sealer to start, just to be sure it's water tight.
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I've been eyeing your LP project, man. It's the bomb...great project thread.


^ Thanks man! it's almost done... i just have to decide whether or not i want to use nitro or poly finish yet... once i do ill start dying and putting up more pics
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#16
Does anyone feel that I might need to shellac this SG, instead of or before moving on to a wood grain fill / sand sealer?

I'm confused about how to get started seeing that there's a stain on the wood now.
#17
im all for cherry stain, as in my first post.

or maybe that finish that wears away quick, nitrocellulose? if thats in a cherry stain...
Peavey XXX combo *upgraded screen resistors, Tung-Sol's, and 6L6's*
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I noticed looking at images of Epi's that their headstocks have two more arch notches. Both corners of the wing tips are notched out. But some of you are right, the Epi truss rod covers look like this one, where the Gibsons mostly appear to have two screws and say 'SG' on them.

Whatever, right...it's going to be turned into a players axe anyway.

I'm planning on solid white. I think I likely will need to use grain filler and a sealer to start, just to be sure it's water tight.


also the epi headstocks are narrower than the gibson ones...and this one looks pretty narrow like the epiphones. idk just my 2 cents.