#1
Hey all, just a quick one for you. I need a tutorial so I can sort out the frets on my Tele. Some of the low frets are quite worn and causing a bit of buzz so I'm looking for a tutorial to aid me in correcting this. Don't want to do it from my hazy memory!

Thanks in advance.
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Last edited by Kurapica at Jun 20, 2008,
#2
Just to throw this in there: if it's quite a few frets (all basically in the same location) it could be your neck is out of shape. Adjust the truss rod. Otherwise... good luck with it.
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#3
Thanks for the reply ^^

It's a mid 80's Tele so the guy before me had used it quite a bit. By the looks of it though he was a backing guitarist as the wear is almost entirely on the first 5 frets and a little bit higher on the g and b strings. Probably a country fan haha. The neck is actually pretty straight though, checked that earlier.

Thanks though.
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#4
How can you tell if a guitar's frets are worn? Plus, does the condition of the strings affect fretbuzz at all?
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#5
You can see if they're worn because they just wear flat. It happens on all guitars over time and can give you a pretty nasty buzz, which is the problem I've had on mine.

You can indeed also get buzz from knackered strings. Just see if your string is unwinding or anything, because that'll do it. Not to mention you get fretbuzz from a neck which isn't straight too.
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#6
Hey, sorry to be a pain but I need to get this done. Any tutorials or anything you can offer me?
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Fender Telecaster MiJ - 1986
Swing T-Through

Ibanez TS9DX
Sovtek Small Stone - c.1985
EHX Big Muff
Kimbara Wah - c.1974
Boss GE-7

Orange Rocker 30 Combo

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#7
you could get them recrowned?

or possibly a fret file from stewmac, and level them out?

sorry i'm not much help, but i'm offering what i know!
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#8
I would take a nice, flat block with some 300 grit sandpaper on it and sand up and down the frets until the frets are the same height. Then you put masking tape on the fretboard to protect it. Next, take a small file and round the frets back to shape.
#9
Yeah, the plan is to do it myself. I've been told it's quite easy and let's face it, Tele's are invincible anyways!

Just looking for a tutorial really. I know I've seen them about, but I can't seem to track one down!

Thanks anyways though mate.

^ Yeah, that's what I was thinking. Just wanted to get a photo tutorial before I started at it really. I've always been a bit suspect about messing with necks haha.
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Ibanez GRG170DX
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Sovtek Small Stone - c.1985
EHX Big Muff
Kimbara Wah - c.1974
Boss GE-7

Orange Rocker 30 Combo

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Last edited by Kurapica at Jun 20, 2008,
#10
The wear pattern you describe is not unusual for a guitar that has primarily been played open chord/capo style and replacing the worn out frets should, in typical a case like this, be more rational than redressing the unworn frets further up the neck.

http://www.fretnotguitarrepair.com/fretting.htm
and further pages on that same site show you how the pros do this.

Personally I think the Fret-not people are a bit over cautious in their warning against amateurs doing fretjobs themselves. My experience is that it is not at all that hard to shape the new frets to the required radius without special tools, just by gently pulling the material through a slot round a slightly rounded off edge of a piece of wood, using only your fingers to shape the metal. It's a bit tedious and time consuming, but it works well. Dressing up the edges isn't very difficult either. It only requires a lot of patience and precision, even more so if there is a binding round the fretboard.

I'd say refretting is not easy, but within reach of a reasonable experienced do it yourselver, which leaves you to decide whether or not you qualify as reasonably experienced. I myself had a good deal of experience in metal working before I first refretted a guitar.
When in doubt, go see a real luthier.
Do that also before you start dressing down the crowns of the other frets. As said, in this particular case the better result may very well be reached by replacing the worn out frets, but to judge this I really need to see the guitar. Showing the guitar to a real luthier can save you from making ill advised decisions.
#11
^ Thanks greatly for that post. I'll take the guitar down to a luthier and see what they say. If they offer to crown them then I'll probably do it myself, if they say it needs a refret, I'll let them do it. I don't mind giving the refret a go, but not on an older guitar. There might be unforseen circumstances with a 23 year old guitar neck that I don't really want to risk.

I think I'll make sure my first fret work is on a cheap beater project!

Thanks again mate, I really appreciate it.
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Ibanez GRG170DX
Fender Telecaster MiJ - 1986
Swing T-Through

Ibanez TS9DX
Sovtek Small Stone - c.1985
EHX Big Muff
Kimbara Wah - c.1974
Boss GE-7

Orange Rocker 30 Combo

http://www.myspace.com/paythelay
#12
Your welcome Kurapica. You've decided wisely.
However, if you're advised to dress down the frets, don't underestimate the difficulty of that job. Though it is very easy to work the fret crowns into any shape you desire, getting the string heigth and contact patches right everywhere on the neck requires deeper knowledge about guitar setup. Failure will ruin the intonation big time. Not that a skilled and resourcefull amateur can't pull it off, but you must be sure you have yourself informed properly. The Fret Not site will tell you all you need to know.
Lots of good luck.
#13
Thanks man, you've been a great help to me.

Yeah, I don't underestimate how difficult it would be, but fortunately I've got my dad to work on the physical side of things and I know quite a bit of the technical. But yeah, if it needs a partial refret, I'll just let the professionals do it. The tele is a cracking guitar but just needs a little TLC haha.

Thankyou again.
Ibanez PGM301
Ibanez GRG170DX
Fender Telecaster MiJ - 1986
Swing T-Through

Ibanez TS9DX
Sovtek Small Stone - c.1985
EHX Big Muff
Kimbara Wah - c.1974
Boss GE-7

Orange Rocker 30 Combo

http://www.myspace.com/paythelay