#2
I know you are a smart person having seen your posts before but can you explain a little bit as to why i should spend a half hour of my friday watching that? I'm interested but not 30 mins interested.
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#4
I see no problem to talk to the police unless your guilty of a crime. In which case, way to fuck up, you will probably be caught anyway, regardless of your interaction with authorities.
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The only policeman I would talk to is Matt Barlow.

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I see no problem to talk to the police unless your guilty of a crime. In which case, way to fuck up, you will probably be caught anyway, regardless of your interaction with authorities.


the video explains why you are wrong.

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I know you are a smart person having seen your posts before but can you explain a little bit as to why i should spend a half hour of my friday watching that? I'm interested but not 30 mins interested.


It's a very thorough explanation of why you should never talk to the cops if they question you, even if you are innocent.
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#8
I'm only 6 minutes in, but the video is pretty interesting, thanks for teh link.
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#9
im up to 7 min and at first i thought it was bull but its getting very interesting.
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the video explains why you are wrong.


It's a very thorough explanation of why you should never talk to the cops if they question you, even if you are innocent.



He only give situations where its easy to be incriminated because of lack of witnesses, lack of lawful knowledge, etc. Great, so if i smuggle lobster over a state line, or i didn't know a stupid and obscure law i infringed (which will most likely never happen), ill keep my mouth shut.

that being said, its a great lecture on the follies of due process as well as how to deal with complicated situations.
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It was basically reasons and examples of why not to talk to the Police.
For those who don't feel like watching it, here's a small overview:
-If you talk to a policeman who asks to question you, he can and will use what you have said against you. In the first example Professor Duane presents, it is over a sexual assault, in which a woman claims a defense attorney tried choking her. The defense attorney talks to the policeman, and reveals to the policeman that he had tried choking her. It then became a case of 2 people's word against 1.
-It is law that you do NOT have to talk to the police under any circumstances whatsoever.
-Certain regulations are stated as such:"You may not export, import, acquire, possess, [etc etc] any fish that is deemed unlawful to possess, import, export [etc] by the region you are currently in."
Basically a reinforcement of other regions law. This is presented because police enforce this rule, but you do not have to talk to the police regarding the issue.
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Cop: Ok, so what's your side of the story?

You: ... *silence*

Cop: ...

You: ...

Cop: ???

You: ...
#13
here's the second part presented by a police officer: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6014022229458915912&q=&hl=en

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He only give situations where its easy to be incriminated because of lack of witnesses, lack of lawful knowledge, etc. Great, so if i smuggle lobster over a state line, or i didn't know a stupid and obscure law i infringed (which will most likely never happen), ill keep my mouth shut.

that being said, its a great lecture on the follies of due process as well as how to deal with complicated situations.


He gave examples of several other more complex cases as well, did you watch the whole video?
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#14
Well I'm watching a bit of it, and about halfway through he finally started to make some valid points. That whole 'anything you say can and will be held against you' means just that. If you tell them something that could save you, they can't speak for you, only against you. The police aren't legally allowed to stand up for you in the court of law. Weird.
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im canadian but im half way through and its interesting, since canadian law is quite similar
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Well I'm watching a bit of it, and about halfway through he finally started to make some valid points. That whole 'anything you say can and will be held against you' means just that. If you tell them something that could save you, they can't speak for you, only against you. The police aren't legally allowed to stand up for you in the court of law. Weird.


yeah, that's why knowing this is very important.

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it does if they are questioned by the cops, but what you actually mean, no it doesn't
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here's the second part presented by a police officer: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6014022229458915912&q=&hl=en


He gave examples of several other more complex cases as well, did you watch the whole video?



yes, ive seen it before. don't get me wrong, im not trying to troll or flame. I'm just saying this is more for felonies and larger convictions. I know for a fact talking to the police, with 5 witnesses, saved me from a minor drinking misdemeanor. So i believe in what he says, but its directed more toward larger cases.


edit: mind you, i WAS totally innocent from my minor, absolutely no drinking for over a year.
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yes, ive seen it before. don't get me wrong, im not trying to troll or flame. I'm just saying this is more for felonies and larger convictions. I know for a fact talking to the police, with 5 witnesses, saved me from a minor drinking misdemeanor. So i believe in what he says, but its directed more toward larger cases.


Yeah it doesn't apply in the face of overwhelming evidence most likely, but you shouldn't talk to the cops, you should make a deal with the prosecutor.
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#21
The cop one is much better than the attorney one. It's so much easier to understand.
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That was interesting, shame it ended when the police officer was about to talk


I posted the link for the police officers lecture a few posts down from the original one.
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#24
It was a good watch. Thank you.
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I posted the link for the police officers lecture a few posts down from the original one.

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#27
Cool stuff, good to know. Watch both the lawyer and the cop, both have excellent stuff to know. The cop said at the end though that he doesn't try to send innocent people to jail, which brings back to light the fact that cops are people to, and they're doing their job and they're trying to make the community they work in better. If you didn't do a crime you don't have anything to worry about. Like the cop said, criminals are stupid. Its not hard to figure out what happened. But for the rare occasion that you are suspected for a crime and are innocent, the stuff in these vids is VERY important.
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#28
Great lecture. The Officer's talk isn't really going anywhere so far, but it's sill interesting.
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