#1
Hi.
I'm going to buy my first electric guitar soon..
I though i would get a Squier Strat Affinity, but then i saw the Ibanez's.. and now i'm stumped!
I've been going about two months on acoustic but need the flexibility of electric and I want to learn some faster playing eventually, as well as the indie/rock type stuff i play at the moment.
Anyone got any idea which make i should go with? I really am stuck!
#2
ibanez hands down. buy a squire and ill kill our mum. trust i know i have one and it sucks more balls than a gay man
#3
youre comparing two completely different beasts. squires are like...at least IMO REALLY ****. id get an ibanez
#5
Which Ibanez guitars were you looking at? Squires aren't all that bad and low end Ibanez's can be dodgy especially if you play indie/rock.
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#6
Buy a squier affinity tele, theyre pretty much rebranded mexican fenders with slightly worse pickups. Killer guitars for the money.

Id take that over a low end ibanez tbh, Alder body, throw in some new pups and hardware and itd wipe the floor with it.
#8
Cheers all.

I was thinking about maybe a Ibanez GSA60..
does that make anyone want to comment again?
#9
I'd also +1 the Affinity Telecaster, if you're looking at playing indie you can swap the pickups later on and have a fantastic guitar for a low price.
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#10
Quote by Bedhead03
ibanez hands down. buy a squire and ill kill our mum. trust i know i have one and it sucks more balls than a gay man

you can't even spell squier, therefore your opinion in this thread is not valid. As a first guitar, or as a backup, a stock squier is actually pretty good. modded, and set up properly, and you've got a really nice guitar that can rival some low/midrange fenders.

Ibanez are usually better value for money and a lot of their starter guitars are more versatile imo, but yes, the affinity tele is one of squier's hidden gems, and would probably suit the styles of music you wanna play a lot better. Actually, i've never played a squier tele i didn't instantly want to buy. The affinity strat is pretty nice too, and i have an '02 fender strat to compare it to.
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you can't even spell squier, therefore your opinion in this thread is not valid. As a first guitar, or as a backup, a stock squier is actually pretty good. modded, and set up properly, and you've got a really nice guitar that can rival some low/midrange fenders.

Ibanez are usually better value for money and a lot of their starter guitars are more versatile imo, but yes, the affinity tele is one of squier's hidden gems, and would probably suit the styles of music you wanna play a lot better. Actually, i've never played a squier tele i didn't instantly want to buy. The affinity strat is pretty nice too, and i have an '02 fender strat to compare it to.

Modern Fenders are just as crap as modern Gibsons... hardly a fair comparison.
#12
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Modern Fenders are just as crap as modern Gibsons... hardly a fair comparison.

sounds like you played a recent MIM. I actually have 2 MIM fenders from 2002 and i have to say, apart from the strat having a squeaky tremolo (only a minor issue since this doesn't get amplified), they are pretty flawless. Although, i do see what you mean, the expensive AV strat my friend had didn't seem much better than my MIM strat, it just sounded a little bit better and looked nicer. I really loved the gibsons i've played even though they were recent models, but maybe i have no standards when it comes to guitar, because i have a strange attachment to my squier standard tele and Epiphone Les paul junior (the cheapest one).
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#13
okay i think i'm gonna go with the ibanez.
anyone know a good website to get guitar + amp packages etc off?
#15
ok this is gonna sound like a really stupid amatuer question, but i haven't had my own electric yet..

If i got a squier strat..
i could set it up to whatever sound with an amp..
how do you get it to like high pitch stuff like joe satriani?
cos i know about changing tone for fuller sound/more tinny etc..
but i don't now how to get the screechy high pitch noises
sorry for the amatuerism
#16
Quote by joefish
ok this is gonna sound like a really stupid amatuer question, but i haven't had my own electric yet..

If i got a squier strat..
i could set it up to whatever sound with an amp..
how do you get it to like high pitch stuff like joe satriani?
cos i know about changing tone for fuller sound/more tinny etc..
but i don't now how to get the screechy high pitch noises
sorry for the amatuerism



It all depends on what kind of amp you have. I don't know a lot about tone either but i'm sure you could get the sound you want with a squier.
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#17
For a guitar that will be worth its money I'd get an Ibanez
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#19
don't get a squier strat. i have one and it's an alright intro guitar but it sounds like crap and will probably lead to frustration when you realize that you can't sound good with it. I'd step up to a MIM strat if you can save up or an ibanez.
#21
it really depends on what models youre looking at for the ibanez and how much youre willing to spend.
#22
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what does the MIM bit mean?


Made in Mexico, as opposed to MIA (Made in America) or MIJ (Japan).
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Made in Mexico, as opposed to MIA (Made in America) or MIJ (Japan).

ah i see.
cheers.
what differences are there between where it is made? :S
#25
okay to answer a couple more questions..
i could buy the squier strat +amp+lead for £150
there are like no packages for ibanez, but the GSA60 is what i would get - £140ish.

loads of people and reviews have said the ibanez is better, but, for example, could it play the verse part of song 2 by blur? It's quite a "classic" sound.. metallic and tinny type thing.
#27
If you want to get a "classic" sounding Squier, definitely get the Affinity Tele and NOT the Strat model...the Tele really isn't that much more expensive and is really the only Squier worth buying (and you get a hell of a lot for your money). Aside from the Affinity Tele, I'd go with Ibanez. I started on a $150 GRX20 and it's probably one of the best things I got for the money.

Also, try to avoid guitar + amp + extra crap packages. You'll have to spend a little bit more if you get things separately but you'll have a lot more options. And for a practice amp, even if it's your first amp, get something $100 or more. The cheapest amps I've played on want to make me kill myself, but from $100 up, you can generally get something pretty decent for practice.
#28
The differences in where they are made is the quality of the crastmanship. Obviously in USA they are going to take better care in making it than in indonesia.
#29
I'd go with a Squier Affinity Tele or a Vintage Modified Strat and Microcube myself. Some of the lower Ibanez's can be really shoddy, then again so can Squiers.

Or, if you're willing to look elsewhere, look at the Dean Avalanche strats. I started on one, and still use it as my main guitar. I can get from really heavy thrash metal tones to blues to Joe Satriani/ Steve Vai tones (I've got the H-H version).

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#30
Squier. I'll walk up to you and slap you if you buy an Ibanez. Seriously.
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#31
A low end ibanez is going to be of the same quality as a squier. It should be the law that all guitarists start with a squier, mine seems crappy now after moving up to an Ibanez RG but it served me well whilst I was learning, I even played my first gig with it.
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