#1
seriously, brand new laptop, have had it for 10 minutes, vista's already locked up twice on me. Would you recommend me going back to XP? or is that going to be superfluous in a couple of months anyway?
#2
How did you manage to do that?
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#3
Quote by Kensai
How did you manage to do that?



I tried to start Windows Media player - mother****er locked up

I tried to install ableton live - ****sucker locked up.

I've never had my old XP lock up on me like that for no reason

EDIT: wait, wtf --- kensai, is that you?? what happened to your avatar?
#4
Quote by CoreysMonster
I tried to start Windows Media player - mother****er locked up

I tried to install ableton live - ****sucker locked up.

I've never had my old XP lock up on me like that for no reason

EDIT: wait, wtf --- kensai, is that you?? what happened to your avatar?


You must be exceptionally unlucky; vista is very stable. There might be errors in the hardware or the installation didn't go well.

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#6
Chances, when you try to install XP you'll find out that your laptops manufacturer put out **** all drivers for it and you'll be screwed
#7
It's probably the bull**** on your computer and not actually Vista. Computer companies put lots of extraneous garbage on their computers.

I love my Vista setup, and it's consistently more stable than my XP box
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#8
Check to see how much RAM you have. I have a gig alone dedicated to Vista, and 2 for normal operation. Also alot of stuff freazes on install in Vista. Try an install in safe mode, it should work then. PLUS, get updates and patches before installing. Or you can skip all that and partition your hard drive to run Linux on one side and windows on the other.
#9
really! I would have never thought of that. I'll trust your opinion, dreadnought, and check my computer for unwanted crap. thanks!
#10
If the laptop's designed for Vista, it probably won't like XP. It's usually the case. I'd recommend maybe opening up the laptop and seeing if everything's in order inside it, see if it has problems all the time on certain programmes etc. Also, make sure you have all the latest software updates for everything...quite often if you have an older version of software for something then other programmes might not like it...
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#11
Yeah... the first thing I do whenever I get a new computer is uninstall all the software that I don't absolutely need, so I start from a clean slate.
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#12
damn that stupid laptop has napster, eMusic, Toshiba crap Picasa games and a whole bunch of crap that nobody will ever need! away with thee malus software!
#13
XP all the way! im about to buy a laptop this week and id like to have both vista and xp on it. At the moment many programs dont run on vista (plus it uses too much "power") but hopefully the situation is gonna change once a service pack comes out. On the other side XP is much lighter and more reliable + it runs any program. If you want to have only one system id say buy a copy of xp cause itll be available for a few months from now and keep you copy of vista which may become useful.
#14
Quote by CoreysMonster
I tried to start Windows Media player - mother****er locked up

I tried to install ableton live - ****sucker locked up.

I've never had my old XP lock up on me like that for no reason

EDIT: wait, wtf --- kensai, is that you?? what happened to your avatar?

too little ram, my sis had the same problem
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#16
that's one of the reasons why I build my own PCs, no preloaded crap. Also with a lot of computers all of that crap reinstalls itself if you do a system restore from the disc too.
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#19
Give it a week then get something free like ubuntu (but if you want compatibility just torrent windows xp)
#20
My brand new laptop worked perfectly with vista.

Vista doesn't deserve all the crap it gets. It's just that people are used to XP. IMO, Vista > XP. I think it's more intuitive than XP.
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#21
Vista is definitely down the hole. You know they completely broke the bitlocker encryption crap right? I work helpdesk so all i do all day is IT **** and I'm telling you that vista sucks balls. Vista is shiny, XP is the real workhorse though.

Vista is just Windows ME v2. Seriously it's going to be unsupported here in the near future. Microsoft is already working on Windows 7. With a release date of 2-3 years. How's that for ya? :P

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#22
I would just reinstall Vista and all that pre-installed crap is off your computer. Then things run alot faster and will probably run smoother. Also did you even update your laptop as soon as you got it?

@^^ I guess they dont hire IT like they used to , most of the above post is wrong.
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#23
I've been running Vista on my laptop since December, and have never, never had it lock up. It's more stable than it was on XP.

Maybe you just have bad luck?
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#24
Dude you may want to try linux with WINE. Erase you whole laptop and install this http://www.ubuntu.com/

contrary to what many people think its a very smooth and user friendly Linux distro. When you get Ubuntu installed you can install a free program called WINE which is he windows API for linux written by open source developers. With WINE you will be able to run your windows programs and still have the stability of linux without all of Vista's bull****. so if your willing to give it a try I think it will be good for you. Also Linux runs blazing fast on **** hardware since you got a new laptop with new hardware you'll be running at peak performance and everything will flow like a waterfall.
#25
Screw Ubuntu, go learn to torrent so you don't have to download a ****ty open source OS. My buddy tried to get me to run ubuntu for a while and there is no point.

XP has only bluescreened on me Once in like 5-7 years. Vista has already locked up on me at work at least 5 times, and my coworker has bluescreened vista like 10 times. Seriously XP is much more stable. Maybe Vista is stable for all you kiddies out there who just surf the forums all day long, but for us out here who do REAL **** on a computer, stick to XP :P
#26
Quote by breadstick
My brand new laptop worked perfectly with vista.

Vista doesn't deserve all the crap it gets. It's just that people are used to XP. IMO, Vista > XP. I think it's more intuitive than XP.

thats the problem, computer mustnt be that intuitive! when the average dumbass tries to use a machine which somehow holds the most incredible technologies of mankind in it he/she must suffer and get back in line.
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#27
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Dude you may want to try linux with WINE. Erase you whole laptop and install this http://www.ubuntu.com/

contrary to what many people think its a very smooth and user friendly Linux distro. When you get Ubuntu installed you can install a free program called WINE which is he windows API for linux written by open source developers. With WINE you will be able to run your windows programs and still have the stability of linux without all of Vista's bull****. so if your willing to give it a try I think it will be good for you. Also Linux runs blazing fast on **** hardware since you got a new laptop with new hardware you'll be running at peak performance and everything will flow like a waterfall.


The big problem is that even with WINE a lot of stuff made for windows won't work right, I have major soundcard issues with Linux, and can't do a lot of the audio stuff that I need to do on it, not saying that's the case with this guy, but Linux is not the end all be all solution for bad computer performance.
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#28
if linux will work with your pc, its definitely worth a try, but its not for everybody

anyways, a fresh install and vlite is your friend ( just make sure to install 1.1.6 first, else you'll have to download a 1GB .iso to get a .dll that microsoft wouldn't let them put in 1.2 )
#29
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thats the problem, computer mustnt be that intuitive! when the average dumbass tries to use a machine which somehow holds the most incredible technologies of mankind in it he/she must suffer and get back in line.
jokes apart system which are too much user-friendly oriented cant be very good

Exactly. There is a expression in the realm of computer supporters. It is called "PEBKAC". Problem Exists Between Keyboard and Chair. The average consumer normally have problems with adjusting for newer stuff. People complained about XP when that came out, saying basically the same things that are being said about Vista today, but the crowd is a lot bigger now. That is globalization for you.
But there is also something called OEM software, which is basically the applications that you get with your hardware, which is something to despise, because of all the crap that usually bloats it, and Vista is already bloated to some extent.
I have no problems with Vista here, I'm actually using it right now, but for the average user I still recommend XP, because I've spent a few hours tweaking it by disabling services and features that I don't need.

I dual boot with Linux (Ubuntu), and the thing with that is the lack of support for software. A lot of people complain about the same thing in Vista, but I actually have less problem in Vista than in XP with software compatability for some unknown reason.
You do have Wine for Linux, but I don't give a putrid shit about that. Firstly it shouldn't be necessary, secondly it doesn't work that good.
However Linux is good if you are having problems with viruses. A couple of times I've had problems with antivirus applications not finding the virus, but I have my self managed to indentified the file that is infected, or is the infection it self. Then I just boot into Linux and delete or remove that file and see if it works then, which it usually does, and always have for me at least.
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#31
I haven't had any problems with Vista. Really.

I don't do much with it though.

Or know much about computers.
#32
my dad's macbook pro runs vista and leopard at the same time and hasn't had a single problem since he got it. and i usually have freezing problems with macs.

i'd say take it to someone.
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#33
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Chances, when you try to install XP you'll find out that your laptops manufacturer put out **** all drivers for it and you'll be screwed


probably

although you can try at least. what laptop is it?
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