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#1
hey

could anyone recommend some pickups for my Ibanez RG350?

for metal/shred really, but with a warm neck pickup preferably
they have to be passive too, and not too extreme of a price.

Also, preferably without a cover, as I don;t really think it would look right.

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seymour duncan jb's?
im not really a master of pickups, but i play the same style, and ii have them in my epi, and they work fairly well.
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bill lawrence l500xl bridge
seymour duncan '59 neck

The tonal range from those pickups is phenominal. The bill lawrence was designed to be played clean, very trebly to enhance those quick pickin' country and blues tones, but with some gain you blow heads clean off. Listen to Extreme or 80s Pantera to get the best idea of what it sounds like, but its great for shred.

The '59.... well anyone will tell you thats a great warm neck pickup!
#4
budget?
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I know it's a given, but a pair of Dimarzio Breeds is the best bet IMO. Fat, warm and also good for adding a bit of character to a basswood guitar.
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#7
erm, lets say maybe £100 - 150 for a set?
but less would be better to be honest
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i just put new pickups in my iby 320dx
neck - emg hz h3 very warm and thick, kinda a lower tone.(doesnt catch pinch harmonics but makes sweeps sound really good and full.
bridge- seymour duncan screamin demon. great highs,loud mids, really loud low. great for pinchs, tone harmonics and crunch.

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erm, lets say maybe £100 - 150 for a set?
but less would be better to be honest


i'd go with swinesheads for that budget- most likely warthog or venom in the bridge, spotlight in the middle (for nice cleans; if you want more dirt from the single go dragonfly), and condor or runaway in the neck. But email swineshead for advice on which pickups to go for for the tones you want.

rockmonkeys are probably worth a look too, but i haven't tried them.

If you can stretch a bit more, bareknuckles or bulldogs are probably worth a look (haven't tried bulldogs; again, email both for advice).

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i'd go with swinesheads for that budget- most likely warthog or venom in the bridge, spotlight in the middle (for nice cleans; if you want more dirt from the single go dragonfly), and condor or runaway in the neck. But email swineshead for advice on which pickups to go for for the tones you want.

rockmonkeys are probably worth a look too, but i haven't tried them.

If you can stretch a bit more, bareknuckles or bulldogs are probably worth a look (haven't tried bulldogs; again, email both for advice).




how about neck?

how do you go about ordering these? by phone?


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#13
the neck pickups


im thinking about a pair of Swineshead Xbuckers, but a problem has occured with my ibanez, the edgeIII seems to have something wrong with it, but ive never really used it , it just looses its tune very quickly now, and it buzzes around there
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#14
i thought i suggested neck pickups? but as i said, email swineshead for advice, as they (obviously) know about a million times more than i do about their own pickups!

i'm not too sure about the edge III; have you tried posting in the only floyd rose setup thread (it's stickied)?

EDIT: I suspect xbuckers are way too heavy for what you want (almost certainly in the neck position, at least)- they're meant to be super-high gain, so great for modern metal, but at the expense of everything else...
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#15
they seem to be what i want, and on their website, the neck pickup sounds great for shred too.

Ill have to get it looked at, its really annoying me, its only just started doing it today
EDIT:i want the xbucker set
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erm, lets say maybe £100 - 150 for a set?
but less would be better to be honest



Take the magnet out of your neck pickup and put it in your bridge and then take the magnet from your bridge and put it in your neck. This will give PAF tones from your neck and super distortion tones from your bridge. Most people that are brave enough to try this decide that they don't need new pickups after all. It's free so you really have nothing to lose. If you are afraid to do it yourself then send them to me and I'll do it for you and I'll only charge 5 quid and that'll get them shipped back to you as well.
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the neck pickups


im thinking about a pair of Swineshead Xbuckers, but a problem has occured with my ibanez, the edgeIII seems to have something wrong with it, but ive never really used it , it just looses its tune very quickly now, and it buzzes around there


The Edge III is wrong by design. It's made form cheap materials and doesn't last long. It's been covered half a million times that the knife edge just isn't up to grade - a cheap trem for a cheap guitar. Once the knife edge gets blunt, wave goodbye to your tuning stability. Sorry buddy, but the best you can do when the Edge III reaches this stage is to
a) swap it out for an Original Floyd Rose trem
b) block it so it stays stable
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#18
but don't the OFR cost alot more then the guitar is worth? and doesnt it need routing?

this may be an option for me, where in the uk could i get an OFR from?

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but don't the OFR cost alot more then the guitar is worth? and doesnt it need routing?

this may be an option for me, where in the uk could i get an OFR from?

Thanks everyone


1. No routing is needed for MOST Edge IIIs, though there are a few odd exceptions, and at £129 for just the trem, yes, it's a sizeable chunk towards the cost of an RG350. However, OFRs will last and last and last.

2. I'd look at GAK, they supply almost anything:
http://www.guitarampkeyboard.com/en/74910

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#20
Thanks alot, I may just get that done instead of the pickups, as its more important.
I dont even use the Edge on it because of what ive heard about them, so it just wore out with me using it?
Damn they must be crap



edit:
won't i need the full kit? or will the tremelo just be alright?

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Thanks alot, I may just get that done instead of the pickups, as its more important.
I dont even use the Edge on it because of what ive heard about them, so it just wore out with me using it?
Damn they must be crap



Sadly, yes, the Edge III is not a good design. Generally, they aren't built to last as they are licensed Floyd Rose devices - Ibanez have to pay FR for the rights, so they can't spend as much on the trem design to get the guitar as cheap as it is (for comparison, see the S-series).
There are some good ones out there, but they are few and far between. Avoid the Edge III where possible.

For your edit: you already have most of the kit installed in the guitar - the trem itself should be a straight swap unless Ibanez have tried to spoil your fun by changing the routing. However, you would only need the trem itself in either situation.

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#22
thanks, ill see if the place where i got my old ibanez done up can order it and fit it, as he did a great job with my tanglewood and ibanez


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Take the magnet out of your neck pickup and put it in your bridge and then take the magnet from your bridge and put it in your neck. This will give PAF tones from your neck and super distortion tones from your bridge. Most people that are brave enough to try this decide that they don't need new pickups after all. It's free so you really have nothing to lose. If you are afraid to do it yourself then send them to me and I'll do it for you and I'll only charge 5 quid and that'll get them shipped back to you as well.


i would try that first. I got new pickups for my rg before I heard of this trick...

i'd definitely email swineshead before plumping for xbuckers (apart from anything, they may be too dark in basswood)... if swineshead advise them, then go for them. But if not, i'd trust their advice. they were spot with their pickup recommendations for the tones i asked for. too many people think they need mental-hot pickups, and only very few people really need pickups that hot, in my opinion (like, if you only play br00tal metal exclusively). a lot of shred, for example, uses surprisingly mellow pickups.
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#24
also, don't discount the fact that the might just be badly set up. Ibanez' cheaper trems are generally trash, but i can't see that yours would be ruined if you never used it (i could be wrong though, and if you do a lot of bends and vibrato, that will move the trem slightly even if you never use the trem).
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also, don't discount the fact that the might just be badly set up. Ibanez' cheaper trems are generally trash, but i can't see that yours would be ruined if you never used it (i could be wrong though, and if you do a lot of bends and vibrato, that will move the trem slightly even if you never use the trem).



yeah i do quite alot of bends and vibrato, even the high e string seems out of place, it keeps slipping off the fretboard.
The guy in PMT said there was nothing wrong with it, but he didnt even take a proper look at it
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you'd need to take the trem out to really see if the knife edges and studs were banjaxed...
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#27
i haven't a clue how to lol, im going to phone pmt in the morning to see if the guarrentee on it is still valid, as i may return it or something like that
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#28
just be careful, they may try to suggest that that's just normal wear and tear. I'm not quite certain how to fight that, but "you didn't warn me of that when I bough it" might be worth a try. before it gets that far, though, take a look at the office of fair trading website, as there's some useful stuff there about your rights and how long stuff should last, etc. etc.

But first things first, you need to figure out if there actually is something wrong with it or not. you can't march in demanding a refund if it's just set up badly...
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#29
true, but would that explain why the edgeIII rattles?
specially on the low E saddle, or around there

its a piece of junk anyway.
if i get an OFR, and new pick ups, its gonna be like a new guitar
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#30
yeah, but if you can determine (somehow) that it's faulty and can wangle a refund/exchange, you could get yourself an rg1570 which is a nicer guitar which already has a nice trem, for a similar price to the 350 + OFR.

i'm not too sure about the rattle... springs? loose saddle? high fret? as i said, i'd post in the floyd setup thread if i were you. i'm not too great with setups myself...
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#31
theres only one problem, we don't know if the guarentee has run out yet, but i suppose that could work,
ill try that


Thanks for all the help mate



it seems solid, so i havent a clue whats causing the rattle
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#32
no problem. guarantees are normally a year, but if you check the OFT website, if it was an inherent fault you have several years, 6 i think (but may have to go to small claims court to prove it).
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#33
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Take the magnet out of your neck pickup and put it in your bridge and then take the magnet from your bridge and put it in your neck. This will give PAF tones from your neck and super distortion tones from your bridge. Most people that are brave enough to try this decide that they don't need new pickups after all. It's free so you really have nothing to lose. If you are afraid to do it yourself then send them to me and I'll do it for you and I'll only charge 5 quid and that'll get them shipped back to you as well.


is there any dangers that i should consider if i try this??
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#36
^yup, that pretty much sums it up

You need to be careful so you don't break any wires but if you do it the way forsaken just described you shouldn't have any problems.

It's also important that you make sure the side of the magnet that is facing the adjustable poles before the swap is still facing adjustable poles after the swap. If you accedently flip the magnet over then your pickup will be out of phase.
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#37
just took it in for repair, the guy said the person who set it up didn't do a very good job.
so he's doing a full set up, and he's going to file some of the frets down as they are sharp.

Im yet to decide on pick ups though, he also said that the OFR on gak.com wasn't the proper original floyd rose as its too cheap, and not stainless steel

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#38
how much is the one on gak? Ah, i see it's £129 now. That's a little cheaper than normal, but gak does say it's a special deal... i mean they normally go for £150 or so. Just don't buy one from this dude at like £300 or something daft...

EDIT: I've just noticed that the one at £129 is just the trem- the one with the kit (i.e. locking nut etc. as well) is £159, which is around the going rate, as far as I'm aware.

EDIT: i should add though that I've heard that the quality of OFRs is going downhill.
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#39
downhill?

damn

and thats the only direct replacement for an edge3 without routing?
but still, atleast its going to be better then the edge3
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#40
yeah, i'd have thought so, it's bound to be better than an edge III, but personally, based on what I've heard about the OFR, I'd go with a gotoh instead if it fits (i have one on my legra, and i also bought one for my rg, but haven't got round to fitting it yet as the studs are too big). I know suhr has switched to gotohs from OFRs because of the quality problem. As far as I'm aware, gotohs are a similar size to OFRs, apart from the studs, so they might be worth looking into- if an OFR will fit in an edge III rout, a gotoh should too (just watch out for the size of the studs, and also the size of the sustain block, which is pretty big on the gotohs). They're a little cheaper too, especially if you don't need the locking nut.

http://www.wdmusic.co.uk/product/FLOYD_ROSE_LIC._BRIDGE_CHROME_GE1996TC

http://www.wdmusic.co.uk/product/FLOYD_ROSE_LIC._BRIDGE_BLACK_CHROME_GE1996TB

depending on what colour you want... there's a routing template in those links too, under "related files". just check all the dimensions of the trem, including the size of the studs and the size of the sustain block.
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