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Hey People i just need some help.

what is something i could buy to make my sound more heavier and more tube like, ive been looking at preamps like the "Rocktron gainiac" , " Peavey Rockmaster" , "Electro Harmonix Tube EQ" and some others. what would you guys recommend?

My setup right now is a ESP F-50 with Seymour Duncan Distortions neck and bridge-> to a Line 6 Uber metal petal -> to a BBE Sonic Maximizer 482i -> going to a Peavey XXl head -> thru a Crate 4x12.

Thanks!!!
Last edited by Framus at Jun 25, 2008,
#2
Other than buying a tube amp, there's not much you can do to get a tube like sound from a solid state amp as far as distortion is concerned anyway. At least that's the impression i've gotten.
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Quote by Framus


My setup right now is a ESP F-50 with Seymour Duncan Distortions neck and bridge-> to a Line 6 Uber metal petal -> to a BBE Sonic Maximizer 482i -> going to a Peavey XXl head -> thru a Crate 4x12.

Thanls!!!


There's your problem...

As a rule of thumb, solid state pedals will make you sound more solid state. (With the exception of EQ pedals), especially dirt pedals like the Line 6 one.

I would go straight from guitar --> Amp and use the onboard dirt.
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I would change your line, put the Sonic Maximizer before the Uber Metal. You also might want to put a tube screamer or other overdrive before the metal pedal. Add a bit a warmth to your signal.

Real solution = Tube Head
#5
tube overdrive before the metal pedal?! NO!!! that's SS distortion and putting an OD to 'boost' or 'thicken' it won't work. You'll just make a lotta extra noise. Ditch the Line 6 pedal. You could try a preamp tube pedal and see if that helps, but don't be surprised if it doesn't!!

like aberrant said, real solution = TUBE amp.
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yeah - if we could get a SS amp to sound like a tube amp we wouldn't need to buy tube amps... ain't gonna happen.
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Those peavey XXL's are actually pretty good SS heads. Remove the line6 pedal and the BBE from the chain and sit down with your amp and eq for a while. Peavey's transtube curcuit sounds WAY better to my ears than the uber-metal's.
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People have been trying to get tube tone out of SS amps since SS amps came out. Hasnt happened yet. The lin6 pedal isnt helping either.
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Epi Valve Junior head will probably take care of your problem. Cheapest fix i can think of.
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Ditch the uber metal, that head should be able to get at least as good of distortion straight. I don't think there's really a solution other than sell your head and get a tube amp, you could probably get a decent tube combo with enough gain for the price that the head + cab + uber metal + sonic maximizer would brign on ebay. You could also sell the head and just get a tube one with good clean headroom, then run the ubermetal into that. I may be in the minority, but I actually rather liked the sound of the "pulverize" setting running into the clean channel of my VR30 while I owned it.
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Those peavey XXL's are actually pretty good SS heads. Remove the line6 pedal and the BBE from the chain and sit down with your amp and eq for a while. Peavey's transtube curcuit sounds WAY better to my ears than the uber-metal's.


Agreed. And if I were you I'd put the Sonic maximizer in the EFX loop
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+1 on the maximiser in the loop. I did some testing and found much better results with the BBE in the loop.
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Well, obviously there's no trick to making your SS amp sound like an authentic tube amp: It just plain can't happen. You can do some things that help, though. When i used a SS amp, before i could afford a tube amp, I used a Blues Driver for all my overdrive b/c it sounded a little warmer and more authentic than my amps OD. You could try to find an OD pedal that gets you closer. The Line 6 is NOT that pedal.
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the FX loop on the amp is broken idk whats wrong with it, it was like that when i got it.
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I would change your line, put the Sonic Maximizer before the Uber Metal. You also might want to put a tube screamer or other overdrive before the metal pedal. Add a bit a warmth to your signal.

Real solution = Tube Head


i wouldn't putting the BBE before the distortion kinda be pointless, i mean the whole point of the BBE is to tighten up the signal wavelenghth so putting it before a pedal that clips the signal seems illogical. I could be wrong?
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#19
It's kind of funny, but the SamsAmp GT2 pedal in front of an SS amp will give it more of a tube sound. It's noisy though and would work best paired with a noise gate. Still inferior to an actually tube head.