#1
What are they (Brands/Models)?
Whats the difference between a regular amp and these high gain ones?
Are these high gain "boutique"? What makes an amp "boutique"?
#2
Mesa Boogie Rectifers, Mesa Mark IV, Peavey 5150/6505, Peavey Triple XXX, Genz-Benz El-deabloe, Just to name a few.

Most of these amps are not just high gain monsters for modren music, some are very virsatile and can get a vast array of tones.
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amazing high gain amp love it
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#4
so im guessing these are the amps used by guitarists like Vai/Satriani/EVH/Ynwie/Adam Jones/Petrucci huh? What about the boutique question
#5
Are diezel/engl/bogner/soldano/vht/carvin in the same category? God i wish i had one of these
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#7
Boutique means amps that are builty by a small company that aren't very widely distributed - it means stuff like Divided by 13, Dr Z, Fuchs and such, stuff you probably haven't heard about. Basically, non-mainstream amps.
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#8
High gain amps are regular amps, they're just voiced better for high gain music than other amps.

Some high gain/boutique amps are:

Bogner Uberschall, Ecstasy
Diezel Herbert, VH4, Einstein
Elmwood M60 Modena, M90 Modena
Engl Blackmore, Savage, Powerball, Fireball
Framus Dragon, Cobra
Genz Benz El Diablo
Krank Krankenstein, Revolution, Chadwick
Mesa/Boogie Mark IV, Roadster, Road King, Rectifier series
Mako Makoplex, Dorado
Peavey 5150±, 6505±, XXX, JSX
Rivera Knucklehead Tre
Soldano SLO 100, Avenger
Splawn Quickrod, Nitro
VHT Sig-X, Deliverance

That's all I could think of off the top of my head.
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High gain amps are regular amps, they're just voiced better for high gain music than other amps.

Some high gain/boutique amps are:

Bogner Uberschall, Ecstasy
Diezel Herbert, VH4, Einstein
Elmwood M60 Modena, M90 Modena
Engl Blackmore, Savage, Powerball, Fireball
Framus Dragon, Cobra
Genz Benz El Diablo
Krank Krankenstein, Revolution, Chadwick
Mesa/Boogie Mark IV, Roadster, Road King, Rectifier series
Mako Makoplex, Dorado
Peavey 5150±, 6505±, XXX, JSX
Rivera Knucklehead Tre
Soldano SLO 100, Avenger
Splawn Quickrod, Nitro
VHT Sig-X, Deliverance

That's all I could think of off the top of my head.


All of them plus:

VHT G-100-UL Pitbull
VHT G-100-CL Pitbull
VHT G-50-CL Pitbull
5150III
Mesa Boogie DC series [DC-10, DC-5, etc]
Mesa Boogie Stiletto Series [Contrary to popular belief, these can get Br00tal for sure]

Can't really think of anymore

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Are diezel/engl/bogner/soldano/vht/carvin in the same category? God i wish i had one of these


These amps are fairly widely distributed these days, so I personally wouldn't really consider them "boutique" anymore. Fama's examples were really good for boutique amps. Those are some of the very best amps made anywhere (I've played all of those). There're dozens of boutique hand-made point-to-point wired amps to choose from these days (although many boutique amps have PCBs, like Fuchs). You just need to try as many as you can. Most boutique manufacturers aren't making uber-metal amps, but cleanish/classic toned amps with superior dynamics & touch-sensitivity.
What differentiates the ultra-metal amps is usually additional gain stages. Many use 5 pre-amp stages, as opposed to 2,3, or 4 as commonly used. The SLO 100 & Uberschall have 5, the new EVH 5150 III has 8 (but I don't know how they're separated between the 3 channels).
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so im guessing these are the amps used by guitarists like Vai/Satriani/EVH/Ynwie/Adam Jones/Petrucci huh? What about the boutique question


Technically Joe Satriani and Steve Vai have their own signature amps, Satriani helped design the Peavey JSX and Vai uses his Carvin Steve Vai Legacy both of which are stunningly good amps.

Also Eddie Van Halen is pretty well known for using the Peavey 5150s I'm not sure what Adam Jones uses and off the top of my head I think Petrucci used to use Mesas but now he uses a rack setup.
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Technically Joe Satriani and Steve Vai have their own signature amps, Satriani helped design the Peavey JSX and Vai uses his Carvin Steve Vai Legacy both of which are stunningly good amps.

Also Eddie Van Halen is pretty well known for using the Peavey 5150s I'm not sure what Adam Jones uses and off the top of my head I think Petrucci used to use Mesas but now he uses a rack setup.


Petrucci uses 2 mesa boogie mark iv and 1 lonestar. it is even rumored that he is trying out a mark V prototype on his current tour.

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#14
Adam Jones uses a Diezel VH4 (or two) and an old Marshall tube bass amp (...Superbass? Meh, something). He's used a Mesa Rectifier (dual or triple) too. Probably some other amp I don't remember, Diezel Herbert maybe? Well I'm sure about the VH4, bass amp and Mesa (although he might not use the Mesa anymore, live).
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Adam Jones uses a Diezel VH4 (or two) and an old Marshall tube bass amp (...Superbass? Meh, something). He's used a Mesa Rectifier (dual or triple) too. Probably some other amp I don't remember, Diezel Herbert maybe? Well I'm sure about the VH4, bass amp and Mesa (although he might not use the Mesa anymore, live).


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#17
you forgot egnater on that list. i am pretty sure they are made for high gain because marty friedman used one for a while
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you forgot egnater on that list. i am pretty sure they are made for high gain because marty friedman used one for a while


Yea I was debating whether or not to put it on that list, I didn't feel like it was voiced right for the amount of gain it had. It seemed like it needed more presence.
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Quote by Geartrigger
High gain amps are regular amps, they're just voiced better for high gain music than other amps.

Some high gain/boutique amps are:

Bogner Uberschall, Ecstasy
Diezel Herbert, VH4, Einstein
Elmwood M60 Modena, M90 Modena
Engl Blackmore, Savage, Powerball, Fireball
Framus Dragon, Cobra
Genz Benz El Diablo
Krank Krankenstein, Revolution, Chadwick
Mesa/Boogie Mark IV, Roadster, Road King, Rectifier series
Mako Makoplex, Dorado
Peavey 5150±, 6505±, XXX, JSX
Rivera Knucklehead Tre
Soldano SLO 100, Avenger
Splawn Quickrod, Nitro
VHT Sig-X, Deliverance

That's all I could think of off the top of my head.


Wow, I'd say that about sums it up.

When I did my list, I obviously left out a few (But not too many )
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It's a Bassman.

...do you mean a Bassman clone? Since the Bassman is Fender's amp, and I'm sure he uses a Marshall bass head. Although the early Marshalls are pretty much Bassman copies.

Oh well, I'll just check wikipedia. There.

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These amps are a 1976 Marshall Super Bass amp...


So it was Super Bass, almost the same as Superbass
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Are diezel/engl/bogner/soldano/vht/carvin in the same category? God i wish i had one of these

oh yeah, of course. not sure about carvin though, i haven't tried those.

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Boutique means amps that are builty by a small company that aren't very widely distributed - it means stuff like Divided by 13, Dr Z, Fuchs and such, stuff you probably haven't heard about. Basically, non-mainstream amps.


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These amps are fairly widely distributed these days, so I personally wouldn't really consider them "boutique" anymore. Fama's examples were really good for boutique amps.


agreed. I meant that those amps were certainly in the same league, if not better, than the high gainers which had already been mentioned (mesa, genz benz etc.) by the time that post was made.
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#23
Generally boutique amps are lower-gain, low watt combos.
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