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so i've decided to get a strat but i have 3 questions before im 100% sold on em 1) how easy is it to change the strings cause i had an ibanez with a floating trem for a while but when i changed the strings the trem system got all screwed up so im wondering how easy it is. 2) which strat around $350-$600 is best for a bluesey rock kind of sound.3)mapel or rose wood neck. currently i have a gibson SG faded and a line 6 spider 3 120 and please DON'T reccomend a new amp cause i love my spider
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Around $700 is the Classic Series '50s Strat, get it with the maple neck.
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Changing strings on a strat is much easier than on an Ibanez, Im assuming you had a locking trem on it. You don't have to worry about the bridge messing up on a strat as it's not fully floating
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1) As easy as it gets. Bridge isn't a problem unless you change gauges

2) MIM HSS perhaps?

3) I like rosewood for feel and looks, but it depends. Some people hear a sound difference, I don't. Whatever you like, really. They say maple is brighter and rosewood is more mellow.

4) I can't help you with the loving your Spider thing. No one can.
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Around $700 is the Classic Series '50s Strat, get it with the maple neck.

You can only get the 50s one with a maple neck!

If you want one with a rosewood neck, get a Classic Series 60s Strat!
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You can only get the 50s one with a maple neck!

If you want one with a rosewood neck, get a Classic Series 60s Strat!

First, they're out of his price range.

Second, they would go to waste on his amp.

Without a new amp, I say MIM tops. $399.
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i would stay away from the MIM's because they are great guitars, but they have ceramic pickups instead of alnicos, which would be better for a more bluesy sound, even though you wouldn't be able to hear the difference between the two, through a solid-state amp, such as your spider. but honestly, i would throw that $600 at a peavey classic 30, because you already have a great guitar.
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#8
1) amazingly easy, its nothing to worry about

2) i recommend the mim strat, thats the one i have, and with the extra cash you can upgrade the pickups

2) i have maple and it is the smoothest **** i have ever played on
#9
Question: You have an SG, why bother with a new guitar right now? You're not even using the SG to it's full potential with the Spider. If you want a different/more bluesy tone, get a good tube amp instead.

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ok so if i were to get another amp in addition to my spider which would yall suggest?
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Get an all-tube combo of some sort. What type of music do you play/want to play?
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1. Strings are super easy to change on a strat.
2. I would recomend you try a bunch out and find one you like. Although I think either a MIM standard or MIM fat strat would be good as well. Also, look at the new classic vibe series squiers. I know squier gets a lot of crap around here but those are nice and $100 cheaper!
3. Rosewood vs. maple is all personal preference. There are supposedly tonal differences between the two but honestly with the amp you are playing through I don't think you will notice. Not only that I can never tell a difference even on a high end amp. I for one would never have rosewood on a strat/tele since I love how maple feels. African rosewood is the only dark wood I have liked as a fretboard (although I do like the rosewood on the epi dots and casinos and the like).

Also if you like your amp then great but really if you are playing blues and rock you really should look into a tube amp or something down the road. It just doesn't make sense to get a super nice guitar and play through a crappy amp.
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Question: You have an SG, why bother with a new guitar right now? You're not even using the SG to it's full potential with the Spider. If you want a different/more bluesy tone, get a good tube amp instead.

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yeah, a tube amp at volume level 2 sounds amazing
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yeah, a tube amp at volume level 2 sounds amazing

Yeah, a Line 6 Spider sounds better, you're right

EDIT: Nevermind, you haven't got a clue. It's not like he's looking for a small amp. He's got a 120 watt solid state already. Surely he could handle a 15-30 watt tube.

All I'm trying to say is another guitar is a waste of money, especially when he already has a very good one. He's not going to be able to appreciate the tonal differences, assuming that's why he wants a new one.
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#16
alright so im kinda confused i dont know what MIM stands for since i've never really looked in to fenders until now so could some one enlighten meon what MIM stands for sorry if its a noob question

Also what breands of tube amps are good and yeah like a 15-30 watt amp is what i would pefer for a tube amp
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alright so im kinda confused i dont know what MIM stands for since i've never really looked in to fenders until now so could some one enlighten meon what MIM stands for sorry if its a noob question

Also what breands of tube amps are good and yeah like a 15-30 watt amp is what i would pefer for a tube amp

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I suggest a MIM SSS Strat. I know people generally like humbuckers for harder stuff, but the humbucker on the HSS doesn't sound so great through a Spider, I rarely use it. The neck and middle pickups sound very good through it, though.

Whenever I break a string the ball end ALWAYS gets stuck in the bridge, which is a real pain to get out. Once it's out, it's very easy to change put a new string on, though. Your bridge won't get all messed up. (If you use Fender strings, I don't think you'll have the problem with the strings getting stuck in the bridge.)

The type of neck is all personal preference. I prefer maple necks, but you should try them both out and decide yourself.
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I suggest a MIM SSS Strat. I know people generally like humbuckers for harder stuff, but the humbucker on the HSS doesn't sound so great through a Spider, I rarely use it. The neck and middle pickups sound very good through it, though.

Whenever I break a string the ball end ALWAYS gets stuck in the bridge, which is a real pain to get out. Once it's out, it's very easy to change put a new string on, though. Your bridge won't get all messed up. (If you use Fender strings, I don't think you'll have the problem with the strings getting stuck in the bridge.)

The type of neck is all personal preference. I prefer maple necks, but you should try them both out and decide yourself.

Avoid humbuckers because they don't sound good through the Spider?

Not the way to buy a guitar.
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Avoid humbuckers because they don't sound good through the Spider?

Not the way to buy a guitar.


Not humbuckers in general, just the one that comes stock on a MIM HSS strat. I hate the sound of it. My SG sounds great, and it has humbuckers.
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Not humbuckers in general, just the one that comes stock on a MIM HSS strat. I hate the sound of it. My SG sounds great, and it has humbuckers.

Either way, judging a guitar's tone by how it sounds through a Spider isn't a very good idea.
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Either way, judging a guitar's tone by how it sounds through a Spider isn't a very good idea.


I'm only saying it because he also plays through a Spider, so I know what it will sound like through what he'll be playing through.
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I'm only saying it because he also plays through a Spider, so I know what it will sound like through what he'll be playing through.

Yeah, I get that. I'm just saying that he really shouldn't be buying a guitar to "fit" that amp. It's not logical.
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Yeah, a Line 6 Spider sounds better, you're right

EDIT: Nevermind, you haven't got a clue. It's not like he's looking for a small amp. He's got a 120 watt solid state already. Surely he could handle a 15-30 watt tube.

All I'm trying to say is another guitar is a waste of money, especially when he already has a very good one. He's not going to be able to appreciate the tonal differences, assuming that's why he wants a new one.

well i'm under the assumtion that he's looking for a practise amp. tube amps aren't good for practise because he won't get the amps true tone until he plays for an hour at high levels of volume. btw if he uses the Spider right, he can get a better tone than any amp
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Yeah, I get that. I'm just saying that he really shouldn't be buying a guitar to "fit" that amp. It's not logical.


I think it's pretty logical. If he were to get an HSS, he'll probably avoid the bridge pickup until he buys a new amp, which might be a long time. While if he gets a SSS, he'll have a good sounding bridge pickup, which will sound good through both the Spider and a new amp that may be purchased in the future.
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well i'm under the assumtion that he's looking for a practise amp. tube amps aren't good for practise because he won't get the amps true tone until he plays for an hour at high levels of volume. btw if he uses the Spider right, he can get a better tone than any amp


As far as I'm concerned, a low power tube amp is going to sound better at practice volumes than the Spider any day. Also, if he wanted practice volumes, he wouldn't have paid for a 120 watt solid state anyways.

And if practice volumes are his concern and he really needs a solid state then there are far better solid states that he could sell his amp for and get instead.

FYI, tube amps don't sound like crap when played at low volumes. Yes, yes, you can't get tube breakup as easy etc. etc. That doesn't make them useless. You can get some pretty solid tones out of a small tube amp at low volumes. Heck, I regularly play a vintage Fender Twin Reverb at bedroom levels and it kicks my Vox AD30VT's ass even at those volumes as far as tone is concerned.

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I think it's pretty logical. If he were to get an HSS, he'll probably avoid the bridge pickup until he buys a new amp, which might be a long time. While if he gets a SSS, he'll have a good sounding bridge pickup, which will sound good through both the Spider and a new amp that may be purchased in the future.


Bottom line is he shouldn't be buying a new guitar before he gets a new amp. I understand that everybody loves buying a new guitar, myself included, however he has a very good SG and hasn't explored its full potential yet with that amp.

Buying a single-coil because a humbucker will sound lousy with a lousy amp isn't logical at all.

My point is that if he's looking for a different tone than he already has he would be better off to get a new amp. He'll get some good tones with that combined with his SG.
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#28
He might be happy with his current amp, though. He said he uses it for practice, so we won't be needing anything too great. If he does get a Strat, there will be a large difference in sound between it and his SG even with the Spider.
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He might be happy with his current amp, though. He said he uses it for practice, so we won't be needing anything too great. If he does get a Strat, there will be a large difference in sound between it and his SG even with the Spider.

If he's buying a new guitar because he is unsatisfied with his tone then he needs to take a good look at his amp. Or else he'll just end up dissapointed again in a few months when the Strat sounds lacking too.

His amp is $400 brand new. He can buy the Strat, that's fine by me. But if as you suggest he doesn't need the wattage and only wants to practice with it, then sell the amp for $250 or whatever and by a 30 watt Vox or Roland or the likes.
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Whenever I break a string the ball end ALWAYS gets stuck in the bridge, which is a real pain to get out. Once it's out, it's very easy to change put a new string on, though. Your bridge won't get all messed up. (If you use Fender strings, I don't think you'll have the problem with the strings getting stuck in the bridge.)


Yeah thats realy annoying. What you want to do is keep back plate off and keep a needle or pin handy to dig the ball ends out.
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hey
so i've decided to get a strat but i have 3 questions before im 100% sold on em 1) how easy is it to change the strings cause i had an ibanez with a floating trem for a while but when i changed the strings the trem system got all screwed up so im wondering how easy it is. 2) which strat around $350-$600 is best for a bluesey rock kind of sound.3)mapel or rose wood neck. currently i have a gibson SG faded and a line 6 spider 3 120 and please DON'T reccomend a new amp cause i love my spider
thanx


The strats are very easy to change stings on, through the back, comes up through the trem, run it along the neck, through the nut and fasten it on the tuning post.

and ATLAST, Someone who own a Spider and is proud of it! +10000000 to you!
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Well Spiders are ok amps, but after playing something else they do sound realy digital and fake
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hey
so i've decided to get a strat but i have 3 questions before im 100% sold on em 1) how easy is it to change the strings cause i had an ibanez with a floating trem for a while but when i changed the strings the trem system got all screwed up so im wondering how easy it is. 2) which strat around $350-$600 is best for a bluesey rock kind of sound.3)mapel or rose wood neck. currently i have a gibson SG faded and a line 6 spider 3 120 and please DON'T reccomend a new amp cause i love my spider
thanx


1. Extremely easy

2. Fender Standard Stratocaster

3. The tone between the 2 isn't really noticeable in my opinion, so I prefer rosewood because of the look. Maple tends to be brighter, whereas rosewood is darker