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#1
has anyone ever played this amp.im thinking of buying it at the end of the summer. i play rock, metal, and experimental and i was wondering if this meet my needs. this will be my first big amp i will ever have. any suggestions?
#3
Don't get it. It's shit.

Look at some tube combos.
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#4
In before the flaming torch brigade... I hope you're ready, TS
Ahm, for a starter's gig amp, I'd say it'll suffice nicely, but anything bigger, than I'd say look to a vox or Roland. And just get the 100Combo - a half stack is an unnecessary burden to begin with
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#5
Hell. No. I would Get a peavey Valveking 112 and an overdrive pedal.
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#7
No to him or no to me?
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#8
its a piece of ****, spend like at least 300 more and get the peavey valveking, all tubes, assuming u want a halfstack.
#9
IT'S A TRAP!

MG's like to lure you in with the friendly price tag and the Marshall name.
But, you must avoid these things, especially the halfstack, like the plague.
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#11
Quote by classicrocker01
Hell. No. I would Get a peavey Valveking 112 and an overdrive pedal.

or VK 212. much better than the MG. i tried one and it got mega-super-pwned by a mesa that i tried afterwards.
#12
Go for a tube amp. For sound quality this is probably not what you're looking for and at the same price you can get a pretty nice tube combo or (if you really must, though it's unnecessary) tube half stack. People buy MGs because it says "Marshall" in pretty cursive across the front.

Really, as you're gonna hear from a ton of people, get a tube amp. They are what your favorite bands use and it's because they sound the best.
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#13
go for a valveking, you'll be so much happier in a year knowing you dnt have to get something else
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#15
Quote by ortrigger
or VK 212. much better than the MG. i tried one and it got mega-super-pwned by a mesa that i tried afterwards.

But the 212 is more than the MG, and really, the extra 50 watts is unnecissary.
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#16
Quote by classicrocker01
But the 212 is more than the MG, and really, the extra 50 watts is unnecissary.

true. then get the 112 and put a good OD in front of it.
#17
Experimental meaning different tones and effects? I'd suggest you look at a Line 6 Flextone. It's loud enough for gigging and sounds pretty decent.
#18
Quote by jambi_mantra
Don't get it. It's shit.

Look at some tube combos.



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#19
Go with a peavy valveking 100 head and a fender FM412 for a cab.
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Fender-FM-412-4x12-100-Watt-4Ohm-Cabinet?sku=601726
300 bucks, it's a really nice cab.
Plywood construction(same as mashall 1960A or 1960B), price is about the same as a used cab minus speakers.
The speakers aren't bad at all, I piggy back my fender twin to one at larger gigs
When you get about 400 bucks, you can buy the same celestions as the marshall 1960 cabs, and you've still saved 100 bucks. Buy some eminence or lower-end celestions for 300, you'll have some fexibility in the sound you want, still way ahead in price.

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Peavey-ValveKing-100-Head?sku=481170
plus
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Fender-FM-412-4x12-100-Watt-4Ohm-Cabinet?sku=601726
plus
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Celestion-G12T75-12-Speaker?sku=660222 x 4
=
Marshall half stack quality for half the price.
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#20
Quote by Iansmitchell
Go with a peavy valveking 100 head and a fender FM412 for a cab.
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Fender-FM-412-4x12-100-Watt-4Ohm-Cabinet?sku=601726
300 bucks, it's a really nice cab.
Plywood construction(same as mashall 1960A or 1960B), price is about the same as a used cab minus speakers.
The speakers aren't bad at all, I piggy back my fender twin to one at larger gigs
When you get about 400 bucks, you can buy the same celestions as the marshall 1960 cabs, and you've still saved 100 bucks. Buy some eminence or lower-end celestions for 300, you'll have some fexibility in the sound you want, still way ahead in price.

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Peavey-ValveKing-100-Head?sku=481170
plus
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Fender-FM-412-4x12-100-Watt-4Ohm-Cabinet?sku=601726
plus
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Celestion-G12T75-12-Speaker?sku=660222 x 4
=
Marshall half stack quality for half the price.

I hope to God you're joking.
#21
^^
That would be a lot more suitable, a damn sight better too.

EDIT : to Iansmitchell
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#22
Not sure a halfstack is really what you need though. They're heavy and hard to move around, you don't really need all that power (100W tube with 412?). Seriously, just go for a tube combo. The 50W Valveking should be more than enough power, with an overdrive.
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#23
HE DOESN'T NEED A HALF STACK!!!
a 50w tube combo would be more than enough
^ EDIT- beat me to it
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#24
Quote by classicrocker01
HE DOESN'T NEED A HALF STACK!!!
a 50w tube combo would be more than enough


+1


And the to that guy who was talking about the mis match half stack, that would be crap, and that cab isn't the same as the Marshall's.
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#25
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Valveking:
# 4 - 6L6GC power amp tubes
# 3 - 12AX7 preamp tubes

JCM800:
# 4 EL34s in the power stage
# 3 ECC83s in the preamp

Different tubes, yes.
But I know guys who've changed the 12ax7s in an amp to ECC83s and they say that that alone gets the brit tone.

But really, I don't know, I just know the same speakers and cab construction, same number of tubes(though different flavors), same wattage, gotta make some things right.
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#26
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^^
That would be a lot more suitable, a damn sight better too.

EDIT : to Iansmitchell

Thanks.
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#27
Quote by Iansmitchell
Valveking:
# 4 - 6L6GC power amp tubes
# 3 - 12AX7 preamp tubes

JCM800:
# 4 EL34s in the power stage
# 3 ECC83s in the preamp

Different tubes, yes.
But I know guys who've changed the 12ax7s in an amp to ECC83s and they say that that alone gets the brit tone.

But really, I don't know, I just know the same speakers and cab construction, same number of tubes(though different flavors), same wattage, gotta make some things right.
ECC83 = 12AX7
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#28
Quote by MrCarrot
ECC83 = 12AX7

So why do they have different names, just wondering?
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#29
Quote by MrCarrot
ECC83 = 12AX7


+1, same tube, different name. The British sound comes from the EL34s. Even that is not the deciding factor in the way an amp sounds. The circuit has a lot to do with it.
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#30
Quote by Kevin Saale
+1, same tube, different name. The British sound comes from the EL34s. Even that is not the deciding factor in the way an amp sounds. The circuit has a lot to do with it.


Crap, might have had it backwards...
Anyway, I know they changed the tubes one way or the other in a valve jr. mod, and it sounded MUCH more British. Turning it up, you can get that filthy british raw power, man, sex pistols is awesome from that.
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#31
You don't need a Half-stack. Only If you're gonna be filling in arena's and soccer stadiums, you're not gonna need it.

Peavey Valveking 112 w/ speaker replacement
maybe an OD pedal
Digital FX can be found in a Digitech RP50
If you need mor volume, just mic your amp.
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#32
^ yup, just ordered a WGS V-30 for my VK, Bad Monkey OD is next
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#34
DO NOT GET A MARSHALL MG
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#35
you can get a good tube combo for that.
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#36
You can get a Bugera for the same price, I believe.... Maybe even less. A Bugera will be at least twice as loud, if not 5 or 6 times as loud.
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#37
Quote by BD 425
You can get a Bugera for the same price, I believe.... Maybe even less. A Bugera will be at least twice as loud, if not 5 or 6 times as loud.

Bugera heads are 120 Watts. that would be like 10 times as loud as an SS 100 watt. the 50 watt combos are pretty awesome though.
#38
Quote by ortrigger
Bugera heads are 120 Watts. that would be like 10 times as loud as an SS 100 watt. the 50 watt combos are pretty awesome though.


I think your math is a little off here.

a 120 watt tube head would be louder than a SS 100 watt head, but not 10 times more.
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#39
Trust us you don't need a half stack, I bought a 100w all valve head, and I love it to death, but i still wish I'd bought the combo. The volume 100w of tubes produces is incredible.
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#40
Quote by classicrocker01
So why do they have different names, just wondering?
European tube designations have 2 or 3 letters followed by numbers.
American tube designation have 1 or 2 numbers (heater voltage) one or two letters, then one number (number of elements)
Industrial tube designations are 4 numbers. ie: 6550, 7025, 5751, etc.

common synonyms:
12AT7 = ECC81
12AU7 = ECC82
12AX7 = ECC83

6BQ5 = EL84
6CA7 = EL34


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