#1
I've came up with a small chord progression and I was wondering if its in F Lydian

The chords used are Fmaj7, and Dm7.
So the only Notes I use are F,A,C,D,E
#2
You could use F lydian over it, but that progression lends itself more to F major.
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#3
you would be correct.
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#5
Yeah, it'd probably just be called F major, as is doesn't have the B note that makes the scale lydian. It doesn't have the A# Ionian note either, so theres no set scale to use, you can use either Ionian OR Lydian, both will sound good If I'm wrong someone please correct me, I'm kinda noob at this...

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#6
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It doesn't have the A# Ionian note either
Nor should it.

Please learn standards of nomenclature and naming before attempting to learn modes.

Edit: As far as the chord progression goes, I think it resolves more to Dm than F (and C major more than anything), but if you think that it resolves to F, than F Lydian is a viable option. The progression is "modally neutral," (I made that term up as far as I know), meaning that is does not specifically imply any one mode the way a Dm7 G7 progression definately implies D Dorian. You could use the F Lydian scale over a progression like that.
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#7
And you could also use F mixolydian over that. Probably wouldnt sound nearly as good as lydian or ionian.
#10
I think its leading more into F Major

but yeah F Lydian would work
#11
im glad we have ten different posts saying the same thing, and you are not the first to use the phrase "modally neutral" sorry
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#12
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im glad we have ten different posts saying the same thing
Well not quite; we have the original post, my first post, and then a bunch of useless posts with half-true information.

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and you are not the first to use the phrase "modally neutral" sorry
WHo else uses it?
#13
i attended the national guitar workshop summer program for six years where it was commonplace in modal discussions and with my experience with numerous professors it's usage was colloquial
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#15
Quote by sue
(and C major more than anything)
How can a chord progression that doesn't include C resolve to C? Do you mean you are playing Dm7 Fmaj7 C?
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#16
Quote by beadhangingOne
I suggest having a #4 somewhere in the chord progression.


+1 Instead of Fmaj7, barre a normal F chord but play the B and top E string open -

Fmaj7#11, although to qualify as a proper 11 type chord you'd need the G in there as well somewhere.
#17
Quote by mdc
+1 Instead of Fmaj7, barre a normal F chord but play the B and top E string open -

Fmaj7#11, although to qualify as a proper 11 type chord you'd need the G in there as well somewhere.
But that would eliminate ionian as an option. And no, #11 chords on guitar dont need a ninth degree (the G note), although it would be a good idea.
#18
Quote by demonofthenight
But that would eliminate ionian as an option. And no, #11 chords on guitar dont need a ninth degree (the G note), although it would be a good idea.


I thought the TS was just concentrating on a Lydian progression only. Stick with Fmaj7 then.
#19
Quote by Ænimus Prime
How can a chord progression that doesn't include C resolve to C? Do you mean you are playing Dm7 Fmaj7 C?
It sounds resolved only when you finally play a C chord IMMHOHO.
#20
The Fmaj7 isn't completely stable, but with the right voicing(s) it sounds final. Plain old F major definately feels like home. Going to C gives a plagal cadance, but the strongest resolution is going to C then back to F for an authentic cadence. All IMMHOHO of course.
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#21
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How can a chord progression that doesn't include C resolve to C?


G7b9, G7b9, G7b9...? I know you know that, and can probably think of a few yourself.
#22
G7b9, G7b9, G7b9...? I know you know that, and can probably think of a few yourself.
Huh?
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#24
So would you call the F maj 7 to D min 7 an unresolved progression?
#25
^these questions cannot be answered without knowing the timing of the chords and song.

you can't look at 4 chords and say where the resolution is without knowing how many beats each chord is played for.... you just can't. (although people here very often try)
#26

      F7M                                                                   
      S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S    S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S  
E||---0-0-0-0-0---x-0-0-x-x-0-0-0-0-0-|--0-0-0-0-0---x-0-0-x-x-0-0-0-0-0-|
B||---1-1-1-1-1---x-1-1-x-x-1-1-x-1-1-|--1-1-1-1-1---x-1-1-x-x-1-1-x-1-1-|
G||*--2-2-2-2-2-----2-2-----2-2---2-2-|--2-2-2-2-2-----2-2-----2-2---2-2-|
D||*--3-3-3-3-3-----3-3-----3-3---3-3-|--3-3-3-3-3-----3-3-----3-3---3-3-|
A||-----------------------------------|----------------------------------|
E||-----------------------------------|----------------------------------|


  Dm7                                                                     
  S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S    S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S  4x
--1-1-1-1-1---x-1-1-x-x-1-1-1-1-1-|--1-1-1-1-1---x-1-1-x-x-1-1-1-1-1--||
--1-1-1-1-1---x-1-1-x-x-1-1-x-1-1-|--1-1-1-1-1---x-1-1-x-x-1-1-x-1-1--||
--2-2-2-2-2-----2-2-----2-2---2-2-|--2-2-2-2-2-----2-2-----2-2---2-2-*||
--0-0-0-0-0-----0-0-----0-0---0-0-|--0-0-0-0-0-----0-0-----0-0---0-0-*||
----------------------------------|-----------------------------------||
----------------------------------|-----------------------------------||

Does this help?
#27
Quote by branny
that resolves to C whilst a c chord is not used
Sure it sounds resolve if you play a C after G7b9, but G7b9 by itself sounds unresolved.

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Does this help?
It seems to be at home at Fmaj7 to me. To finish it off you might like to try using a regular F major chord.
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