#1
So, I have the Ibanez SA 120. I have loved this guitar unconditionally up until today...



Look at the bridge...

I just started to learn Cliffs of Dover today (been kind of living under a rock I guess, hadn't heard it all the way through until yesterday) and no joke--I couldn't get past the second note. It seems as though when I bend up, it tugs on the bridge, causing the tremolo to rise.

It's awful. I guess it also puts my bent notes out of tune also.

I think it's a design flaw.

I haven't really cared about tremolos--I never use them in my playing style.

What are my options?

Can I buy a replacement bridge, preferably a different style?

Looking at it, the tremolo is cut all the way through the body.

It's really kind of frustrating...

Help?
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#2
I don't know if this will help, but I had the same problem on a different guitar. I don't really like the trems on Fenders at all. I asked this same question about my Squier HSS Strat and really didn't get many answers other than "blocking" the trem. Take the cover off the back, shove a block in there and you're done. It will stop the trem from moving. Or, for a better idea, maybe a tremsetter would work for you, or try finding something with that design that will fully block your trem from moving.
http://www.hipshotproducts.com/cart.php?m=product_detail&p=115
#3
Quote by PhoenixFear
I don't know if this will help, but I had the same problem on a different guitar. I don't really like the trems on Fenders at all. I asked this same question about my Squier HSS Strat and really didn't get many answers other than "blocking" the trem. Take the cover off the back, shove a block in there and you're done. It will stop the trem from moving. Or, for a better idea, maybe a tremsetter would work for you, or try finding something with that design that will fully block your trem from moving.
http://www.hipshotproducts.com/cart.php?m=product_detail&p=115


I'm a little wary about drilling into my guitar, but that looks really interesting. I see what I can find in terms of a block.

I didn't realize this was such a wide spread problem...
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#5
Hm. Floyd Rose makes a trem stop for 10 bucks, although it is a simple design. I'll try to find another piece that doesn't require drilling.
http://www.axcessories.com/products.asp?cat=103
How about a Tremel-no? I don't see any screws included so I'm guessing it doesn't require drilling.
http://www.tremol-no.com/default.asp
Allparts has one:
http://www.allparts.com/store/bridge-parts-miscellaneous-bridge-parts-bp-2005-010,Product.asp
#7
I have a feeling you should at least try Jim's idea first.
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#9
Quote by PhoenixFear
Hm. Floyd Rose makes a trem stop for 10 bucks, although it is a simple design. I'll try to find another piece that doesn't require drilling.
http://www.axcessories.com/products.asp?cat=103
How about a Tremel-no? I don't see any screws included so I'm guessing it doesn't require drilling.
http://www.tremol-no.com/default.asp
Allparts has one:
http://www.allparts.com/store/bridge-parts-miscellaneous-bridge-parts-bp-2005-010,Product.asp


Wow. You're one helpful guy! Thanks.

Adding an extra spring... Would that really work? My guitar already has 3. It has hooks for two more... Should I go ahead and buy two? Where can I purchase these?
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Last edited by Starguard at Jun 29, 2008,
#10
i wanna know about the extra springs, cause i have a mustang and if extra springs will keep the funcion of the vibrato but keep it in tune(longer) im up for it

Guitar : Fender CIJ Mustang and a Telecaster
Amp : 76 fender champ
Pedals : BBE green screamer, Big muff, Ibanez LU20 Pedal Tuner, boss loop pedal
#11
If I make my guitar a "hardtail" using the Tremol-No, what will that do to my sound? Anything bad? Anything good?
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#12
Quote by Starguard
If I make my guitar a "hardtail" using the Tremol-No, what will that do to my sound? Anything bad? Anything good?

it will stop the vibrato funcion of your brige/tail piece

Guitar : Fender CIJ Mustang and a Telecaster
Amp : 76 fender champ
Pedals : BBE green screamer, Big muff, Ibanez LU20 Pedal Tuner, boss loop pedal
#13
Quote by Nagashiro
it will stop the vibrato funcion of your brige/tail piece


Good.

But somewhere they mentioned improving sustain... I guess they meant by removing flutter?
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#14
Yeah it will just stop the vibrato, shouldn't do anything else really. I wonder if you could actually replace the springs with stiffer ones. It would be harder to use the trem but still work, and maybe it would be stiff enough so that when you bend strings the trem won't rise. Although I like the tremel-no.
#15
Adding the two more springs stopped that problem for my strat
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#16
You can prolly get springs at your local guitar store or repair shop. You can still use the trem, but it'll hold a tune better. Most people who had light strings and 3 springs then switched to heavier strings have to add 1 or 2 springs to hold the bridge down since the higher tension pulls too hard for only 3 springs to handle. I used to play 11s-12s, so I had to put in 2 more springs. I switched to 9s now, but I just leave the 5 springs in there.

If adding 1 or 2 extras doesn't work, then look into one of those expensive gadgets up there.^
#17
Dude what you need it more springs. I had the same problem with my strat when I switched up to 11 gauge strings. My strat only had 3 springs so I put in 2 more for a total of five.
#18
Quote by Stratmaster458
Dude what you need it more springs. I had the same problem with my strat when I switched up to 11 gauge strings. My strat only had 3 springs so I put in 2 more for a total of five.


Good plan guys. I'll call my local shop and see if they have any tomorrow...
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