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LONDON (Reuters) - A student who scribbled an expletive on an English language exam paper was awarded 7.5 percent for accurate spelling and effective communication, The Times newspaper reported on Monday.

The pupil, who wrote "f--- off" after being asked in an English exam to "describe the room you are sitting in", got 2 marks out of 27 and would have got more if he had added some punctuation, chief examiner Peter Buckroyd told The Times.

"It does show some very basic skills we are looking for -- like conveying some meaning and some spelling," said Buckroyd, who works for the Assessment and Qualifications Alliance examinations board. "It shows some nominal skills but no relevance to the task".

"If it had had an exclamation mark it would have got a little bit more because it would have been showing a little bit of skill".

According to The Times, to gain minimum marks in English GSCE papers -- an exam taken by hundreds of thousands of 16-year-olds across England every year -- pupils must demonstrate "some simple sequencing of ideas" and an ability to put "some words in appropriate order".


http://uk.news.yahoo.com/rtrs/20080630/tuk-uk-britain-exam-fa6b408.html

#3
Great, more reasons for the media to bitch about easier marks and papers.
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#4
I have two thoughts.

1. Sixteen year olds are either held to a lesser standard than they are here in the US, or they are simply absolutely retarded. They could be both.

2. The Times must employ said retarded sixteen year olds to fill empty journalist and editorial positions.
#5
Who cares? Give the idiot 2 marks. It's not like it'll give him an unfair advantage over other people.
#6
I wish it was that easy to pass English at my school. Because if I could literally write "fuck off" as an essay it would save me a lot of mental anguish.

Although the SATs essays and such are really pretty easy anyway. I mean, I didn't even study for the SATs and I got a 2070...its's not even worth it to take the piss out of a standardized test.
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Great, more reasons for the media to bitch about easier marks and papers.


yup.

Universities raise their grade boundaries so students try harder to get the place they want and therefore get better grades as a result. When this happens to lots of students and grades increase across the nation, what's going on? Of course, the exams MUST be getting easier.
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#9
who cares? he didn't pass, he got 7.5% on that question unlike the people who answered it who probably got upwards of 70%
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#10
French GCSE is so easy to get an A* in.
You pretty much just have to write your name on the paper to get the mark. I have to do it a year early though
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I have two thoughts.

1. Sixteen year olds are either held to a lesser standard than they are here in the US, or they are simply absolutely retarded. They could be both.

2. The Times must employ said retarded sixteen year olds to fill empty journalist and editorial positions.


HAHAHAHAHA
Yes, 1 16 year old idiot means americans are smarter.

and to those who said 'I wish tests were that easy to pass at my school, he failed, hard.
#12
Plus I doubt he'll get into college without an english pass (the story says english lang so I don't really know). It's been a while since I did my GCSE's.
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French GCSE is so easy to get an A* in.
You pretty much just have to write your name on the paper to get the mark. I have to do it a year early though

Did you have AQA? The reading paper was all multiple choice apart from the english bit, and almost the same in the writing paper. It was strnage because our french group was just as disgusted as our french teacher. The exams are becoming easier.
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Yes, 1 16 year old idiot means americans are smarter.

and to those who said 'I wish tests were that easy to pass at my school, he failed, hard.


Your subpar reading comprehension isn't helping your case any.


According to The Times, to gain minimum marks in English GSCE papers -- an exam taken by hundreds of thousands of 16-year-olds across England every year -- pupils must demonstrate "some simple sequencing of ideas" and an ability to put "some words in appropriate order".

My 2 year old niece can do that with her speech and she'll be able to write by the time she's 5 or 6.
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#20
thats does sound like Kindergarten.
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yup.

Universities raise their grade boundaries so students try harder to get the place they want and therefore get better grades as a result. When this happens to lots of students and grades increase across the nation, what's going on? Of course, the exams MUST be getting easier.


Idon't think exams are getting easier but you have to agree that the marking is becoming a joke..can you imagine 10 years ago getting marks for writing **** Off without the exclamation mark
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#22
how hard is it to describe a room?
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how hard is it to describe a room?



I know, he could have done so much better.
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French getting easier!!!!!!!! I did edexcel and it was really pressured, we had loads to do for the speaking test, a 60 second presentation and about 80 questions to prepare coz wed be asked random ones, you oculdnt predict, the writing was two task one write 80 words the next 170, the listening paper and reading were just as difficult
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#25
Well, he is entitled to those 2 marks, as what he wrote does fulfill the criteria for the minimum marks. Although maybe they should change it to "simple sequencing of ideas relevant to the question, with correct spelling and punctuation."

With thinking like that, I can get Ed Ball's job.
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I wish it was that easy to pass English at my school. Because if I could literally write "fuck off" as an essay it would save me a lot of mental anguish.


Because getting 7.5% of the marks is totally a pass grade...
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Idon't think exams are getting easier but you have to agree that the marking is becoming a joke..can you imagine 10 years ago getting marks for writing **** Off without the exclamation mark


The exams are getting easier. Get your hands on an exam paper from ten years ago and compare it with today's equivalent. The grade lines were much higher too. The school I went to used to give us old exam papers to test us and used the old marks scheme for these test so by the time it came to take the GCSE and A level exams for real, we all laughed at how easy they were. BREEZED through them.
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Oh man, I wish they did that at 'uni. For our module "Relativity II and Mechanics" we had a lecturer called Prof. Winlove and after I was about to leave the final exam, and knew I'd messed it up, I wrote "It's better to have Winloved and lost than never to have done Relativity II and Mechanics at all".

I failed that exam
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Oh man, I wish they did that at 'uni. For our module "Relativity II and Mechanics" we had a lecturer called Prof. Winlove and after I was about to leave the final exam, and knew I'd messed it up, I wrote "It's better to have Winloved and lost than never to have done Relativity II and Mechanics at all".

I failed that exam



Did you get enough on the coursework to have the module compensated?
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Did you get enough on the coursework to have the module compensated?


We don't do coursework, we just had 10% on "problems class" homeworks and 20% on a mid-semester test. I didn't do great in them, but the pass was condoned because my average for the year was still a pass.... just. I got 44% for the year

I've got a meeting with the uni' disability resources department to get an official ADHD assessment; hopefully they'll diagnose me and then help me work out ways for me to concentrate
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French getting easier!!!!!!!! I did edexcel and it was really pressured, we had loads to do for the speaking test, a 60 second presentation and about 80 questions to prepare coz wed be asked random ones, you oculdnt predict, the writing was two task one write 80 words the next 170, the listening paper and reading were just as difficult

I did the exact same, and it was fine. You just suck at French.
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#32
Technically he did fufill the criteria to get those marks.
My english teacher always said you never lose marks, only pick them up.
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#33
Two out of twenty-seven? They were probably just being gracious, so he wouldn't have a zero.
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it says to get minimum marks you need the ideas, word order and spelling, proof UG can't read worth crap.
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We don't do coursework, we just had 10% on "problems class" homeworks and 20% on a mid-semester test. I didn't do great in them, but the pass was condoned because my average for the year was still a pass.... just. I got 44% for the year

I've got a meeting with the uni' disability resources department to get an official ADHD assessment; hopefully they'll diagnose me and then help me work out ways for me to concentrate


Hopefully they will. Or at least give you some form of mark compensation. And don't worry about that 44%. I only got 52.5% this year, but it's only worth 1/3 of the overall grade, and the trend is that people suck in the 2nd year and blossom in the 3rd.
#37
That's kind of funny, disrespectful, but hey...who am I to talk?

Maybe the kid had a bad day...or many?
#39
i'm more disgusted at the easiness of the question than at the kid's answer. we didn't get doss questions like that when i did GCSEs, we had real questions.
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#40
How did he get spelling credit? It's fuck. Not f---.
And you Brits say us Americans are butchering the language.
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