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#1
A.
You do not need a half or full stack.
You don't play to crowds of ten thousand people.
You don't need to be heard solely from your amplifier.
P.A. systems exist for a reason.
A#.
You do not need a seven string.
You either have a bassist or you need one.
There is a reason bass and guitars exist as seperate entities.
B.
You do not need scalloped frets.
Van halen did fine without them.
All you do is pay alot of money to lose alot of flexibility.
C.
You do not need active pickups.
You need either a better guitar, amplifier, pedals or all of the above.
If you have a JCM 800 combo and any guitar worth having, you don't need active pickups.
C#.
You don't need a pedalboard longer than your guitar, or with more than 2 rows.
Unless you play like tom morrello and buckethead combined, you're never going to use all that many, and they get redundant after a while. Not to mention the buffer coloring or signal degradation that occurs.
D.
You do not need a wireless guitar system.
if you can move around that much when playing, you either need to focus on your playing, or adress C#.
D#.
You do not need three full sized humbuckers in one guitar.
Yes, it looks cool. But the extra pull from those magnets destroys any additional tonal depth you'd get from the middle pickup. Buy a chorus pedal, it'll do better.
E.
You do not need sharkfin/cross/flying bats/lightning bolt inlays.
They do not make you play any faster, better or improve your sound in any way.
F.
You do not need onboard effects.
They only suffice to suck tone from your amlifier and shrink at most 2 pedals from your board. Plus, they sound digitial and are of low quality.
F#.
You do not need a Bigger/better/active/mohagany/tube anything until you've learned music theory and scales.
G.
You do not need an attenuator, you need a smaller amplifier.
(see A)
G#.
You do not need to buy a bigger amp to be heard over the drummer.
If your drummer is louder than a tube 2x12, you need a quieter drummer.


There you go.
One octave of things you don't need.
peace
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#3
Quote by blue_strat
Those are all dependent on your situation.

Did jimi henrix need any of these things?
Chuck berry?
Bo diddley?
Eddie van halen?
Stevie ray vaughan?
Angus young?
Eric clapton?

Other than the marshall stack(and they did play to crowds of thousands), who needed any of the things i listed?
...
Please do not insinuate anything sexual from that.

Quote by cobain_is_king
If your friends don't like your guitar, cover it in stickers and it'll be teh rawks!
#4
You do not need sharkfin/cross/flying bats/lightning bolt inlays.
They do not make you play any faster, better or improve your sound in any way.

you dont need them but they look cool sure they dont help you play better but if its your guitar you should put what you want in the inlays everyones different and they want to play their way with their sound not the way some ass on some website tells them to play

/rant
#6
when you get right down to it, none of us need guitars, amps, basses or even internet.
#7
id say most of these are choices of preference. most not necessary, but people may have them if they choose
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#9
Quote by Iansmitchell
Did jimi henrix need any of these things?
Chuck berry?
Bo diddley?
Eddie van halen?
Stevie ray vaughan?
Angus young?
Eric clapton?

Other than the marshall stack(and they did play to crowds of thousands), who needed any of the things i listed?

He uses Wireless ATM, He's mentioned it in interviews.
#10
Quote by Iansmitchell
A.
You do not need a half or full stack.
You don't play to crowds of ten thousand people.
You don't need to be heard solely from your amplifier.
P.A. systems exist for a reason.
A#.
You do not need a seven string.
You either have a bassist or you need one.
There is a reason bass and guitars exist as seperate entities.
B.
You do not need scalloped frets.
Van halen did fine without them.
All you do is pay alot of money to lose alot of flexibility.
C.
You do not need active pickups.
You need either a better guitar, amplifier, pedals or all of the above.
If you have a JCM 800 combo and any guitar worth having, you don't need active pickups.
C#.
You don't need a pedalboard longer than your guitar, or with more than 2 rows.
Unless you play like tom morrello and buckethead combined, you're never going to use all that many, and they get redundant after a while. Not to mention the buffer coloring or signal degradation that occurs.
D.
You do not need a wireless guitar system.
if you can move around that much when playing, you either need to focus on your playing, or adress C#.
D#.
You do not need three full sized humbuckers in one guitar.
Yes, it looks cool. But the extra pull from those magnets destroys any additional tonal depth you'd get from the middle pickup. Buy a chorus pedal, it'll do better.
E.
You do not need sharkfin/cross/flying bats/lightning bolt inlays.
They do not make you play any faster, better or improve your sound in any way.
F.
You do not need onboard effects.
They only suffice to suck tone from your amlifier and shrink at most 2 pedals from your board. Plus, they sound digitial and are of low quality.
F#.
You do not need a Bigger/better/active/mohagany/tube anything until you've learned music theory and scales.
G.
You do not need an attenuator, you need a smaller amplifier.
(see A)
G#.
You do not need to buy a bigger amp to be heard over the drummer.
If your drummer is louder than a tube 2x12, you need a quieter drummer.


There you go.
One octave of things you don't need.
peace


you know what i don't need? asshats like you telling me what i need and don't need. worry about your own ****in setup.
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#11
Guy has a point, except with 7 string part. :P More range.

I regret buying a stack in a way. I have no need for THAT much volume. They mic things for a reason.

Sharkfins do look dumb.

Pedal boards SAP your tone like no ones business. You'll never use a pedalboard with more than 2 rows to your advantage.
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why do you need to have ur amp flat bickie in your house if you are just practicing is what i'm wondering? Of course it's bad for every1's hearing


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#13
You do need scalloped frets if you plan to play fast without shitloads of gain and whohah.

I mean, look at the Blackmoreinator!
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#14
Perhaps don't need, but want. Technically you don't need a guitar either. :p

Quote by psychokiller99
you know what i don't need? asshats like you telling me what i need and don't need. worry about your own ****in setup.


+1
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#15
Quote by blue_strat
Those are all dependent on your situation.


True, but I think you're taking it a bit too seriously. On the whole, it's more or less right, IMHO.
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#16
when you get right down to it, none of us need guitars, amps, basses or even internet.[/QUOTE

We have a winner
#17
Alot of those things are luxury, not necessity.

It's what the kids these days want though.

*shrugs*

Old dudes like me just like to play 'em(guitars). Not performing anytime soon...though I am considering going to a few open jams here in NYC in a few months. I figure whatever they have there will sound better than what I have at home so that's fine.
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#19
Quote by Iansmitchell
Did jimi henrix need any of these things?
Chuck berry?
Bo diddley?
Eddie van halen?
Stevie ray vaughan?
Angus young?
Eric clapton?

Other than the marshall stack(and they did play to crowds of thousands), who needed any of the things i listed?

I may be wrong, but to my understanding Hendrix also didn't need theory....
#20
Quote by psychokiller99
you know what i don't need? asshats like you telling me what i need and don't need. worry about your own ****in setup.


Exactly.
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Out here we is stoned
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#21
Well, yes but if we don't need anything like that, all of us would go around playing at small clubs with a quiet drummer, a strat with H-S-S and JCM 800 combo, with chorus as the only pedal in our chain.

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#22
Quote by IWank7Sevens
Guy has a point, except with 7 string part. :P More range.

I regret buying a stack in a way. I have no need for THAT much volume. They mic things for a reason.

Sharkfins do look dumb.

Pedal boards SAP your tone like no ones business. You'll never use a pedalboard with more than 2 rows to your advantage.


If you put a damage control preamp first inline and everything else has true bypass, then another tube boost, you might just get away with it.
But really, yeah, I think I made the right point.

Also, 7 strings still seem pointless.
You have twenty something frets, you already have a B string.
You want range, an octave down or pitch shifter is still cheaper than a 7 string.
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#23
Quote by SinnaSatan
Well, yes but if we don't need anything like that, all of us would go around playing at small clubs with a quiet drummer, a strat with H-S-S and JCM 800 combo, with chorus as the only pedal in our chain.

Oh yes! F*ck diversity


A drummer that doesn't overpower a JCM 800 combo isn't quiet. He's sane or sober.
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Quote by cobain_is_king
If your friends don't like your guitar, cover it in stickers and it'll be teh rawks!
#24
Quote by Iansmitchell
A.
You do not need a half or full stack.
You don't play to crowds of ten thousand people.
You don't need to be heard solely from your amplifier.
P.A. systems exist for a reason.
A#.


well duh you don't need to but most people would like to. And some people prefer the tone from a hgead cab setup than a combo

Quote by Iansmitchell

You do not need a seven string.
You either have a bassist or you need one.
There is a reason bass and guitars exist as seperate entities.
B.


then it stands to reason that you don't need 6 either, get 5 then we'll talk, I use all 7 whether I'm playing jazz metal, classical


Quote by Iansmitchell

You do not need scalloped frets.
Van halen did fine without them.
All you do is pay alot of money to lose alot of flexibility.


you sound like someone who doesn't have the patience for them, and anyone can play like van halen, tap arpeggios are not hard at all. It's all about preference to what you think feels best, and don't state your opinion as fact please it just makes you look like an idiot

Quote by Iansmitchell

C.
You do not need active pickups.
You need either a better guitar, amplifier, pedals or all of the above.
If you have a JCM 800 combo and any guitar worth having, you don't need active pickups.


it stands to reason then that you don't need anything then, some things just help a lot. And you get 10x better tone from actives vs passives

Quote by Iansmitchell

C#.
You don't need a pedalboard longer than your guitar, or with more than 2 rows.
Unless you play like tom morrello and buckethead combined, you're never going to use all that many, and they get redundant after a while. Not to mention the buffer coloring or signal degradation that occurs.


why not? If you use each at least once then go for it. and "Not to mention the buffer coloring or signal degradation that occurs." have you not heard of bypass? learn your facts before you rant, idiot

Quote by Iansmitchell

D.
You do not need a wireless guitar system.
if you can move around that much when playing, you either need to focus on your playing, or adress C#.


you sir fail i would rather see an exciting show with tons of movement, cause if they just stand around its just like listening to album

Quote by Iansmitchell

D#.
You do not need three full sized humbuckers in one guitar.
Yes, it looks cool. But the extra pull from those magnets destroys any additional tonal depth you'd get from the middle pickup. Buy a chorus pedal, it'll do better.


Opinion? maybe you just don't have the intellect or dexterity to make it work

Quote by Iansmitchell

E.
You do not need sharkfin/cross/flying bats/lightning bolt inlays.
They do not make you play any faster, better or improve your sound in any way.


Decoration? moron

Quote by Iansmitchell

F.
You do not need onboard effects.
They only suffice to suck tone from your amlifier and shrink at most 2 pedals from your board. Plus, they sound digitial and are of low quality.


opinion, and actually it shortens the signal length, making the tone better

Quote by Iansmitchell

F#.
You do not need a Bigger/better/active/mohagany/tube anything until you've learned music theory and scales.


Ill agree with the music theory part

Quote by Iansmitchell

G.
You do not need an attenuator, you need a smaller amplifier.
(see A)
G#.
You do not need to buy a bigger amp to be heard over the drummer.
If your drummer is louder than a tube 2x12, you need a quieter drummer.


Once again stating opinion as fact, why is quieter better than louder?


you sir have made an ass out of yourself
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#25
you spelled mahogany wrong.

Active pickups - maybe you dont have the money for a better amp, or guitar, or you like the feel of your old one but want it to sound better. I'm not saying you should get actives though, i'm saying buy what you like. you should'nt be telling people what they do and don't need,.........smartass.

i agree with the scalloped frets, wireless system, and pedalboard sections though.
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#26
Quote by Iansmitchell
Did jimi henrix need any of these things?
Chuck berry?
Bo diddley?
Eddie van halen?
Stevie ray vaughan?
Angus young?
Eric clapton?

Other than the marshall stack(and they did play to crowds of thousands), who needed any of the things i listed?


everything you listed is a tool to make oneself unique, no one needs a wammy bar, cya clapton, hendrix, stevie, no one needs the low E, or any of the other individual strings, key word "needs"
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#29
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+1
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#30
Quote by Iansmitchell

G.
You do not need an attenuator, you need a smaller amplifier.
(see A)





unles God forbid you have one and instead of WASTING money on a whole practice amp you get an attentuator. thus making the tube amp more flexible and getting the tubes morer play thus making them last longer.
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#32
Quote by Toniofalcon
I may be wrong, but to my understanding Hendrix also didn't need theory....



B.B. King says he can't play chords. Doesn't know 'em just plays what he feels and if it sounds good he remembers it. to each his own. Thread starter isn't an ass..IMO
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#33
Quote by szekelymihai
there is a confusion at A# line 3


Basses are guitars...


Very true sir, but you are simply picking at a typo or error.
He means bass guitars, and you damn well know it.

Stop trying to be clever.
You arent.


OT;
Good thread. Maybe slightly controversial, annoying, and a cause of several flames to come, but nevertheless a decent thread.

But TS, you have NO RIGHT to tell people what to do with their money. Some people like having things like the above, maybe it makes them feel good about themselves, maybe it makes them feel cool?

Some people need little addictions.

So GTFO.
#34
Quote by IWank7Sevens
Guy has a point, except with 7 string part. :P More range.

I regret buying a stack in a way. I have no need for THAT much volume. They mic things for a reason.

Sharkfins do look dumb.

Pedal boards SAP your tone like no ones business. You'll never use a pedalboard with more than 2 rows to your advantage.


maybe you don't need that much volume and maybe you can't use a pedal board, but i don't give a **** what you need and can't use
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#37
Quote by Edgey_15
Very true sir, but you are simply picking at a typo or error.
He means bass guitars, and you damn well know it.

Stop trying to be clever.
You arent.


OT;
Good thread. Maybe slightly controversial, annoying, and a cause of several flames to come, but nevertheless a decent thread.

But TS, you have NO RIGHT to tell people what to do with their money. Some people like having things like the above, maybe it makes them feel good about themselves, maybe it makes them feel cool?

Some people need little addictions.

So GTFO.



he wasn't trying to be clever, a bass is just a guitar with a bass range dumbass
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#39
Quote by Iansmitchell
A.
You do not need a half or full stack.
You don't play to crowds of ten thousand people.
You don't need to be heard solely from your amplifier.
P.A. systems exist for a reason.
A#.
You do not need a seven string.
You either have a bassist or you need one.
There is a reason bass and guitars exist as seperate entities.
B.
You do not need scalloped frets.
Van halen did fine without them.
All you do is pay alot of money to lose alot of flexibility.
C.
You do not need active pickups.
You need either a better guitar, amplifier, pedals or all of the above.
If you have a JCM 800 combo and any guitar worth having, you don't need active pickups.
C#.
You don't need a pedalboard longer than your guitar, or with more than 2 rows.
Unless you play like tom morrello and buckethead combined, you're never going to use all that many, and they get redundant after a while. Not to mention the buffer coloring or signal degradation that occurs.
D.
You do not need a wireless guitar system.
if you can move around that much when playing, you either need to focus on your playing, or adress C#.
D#.
You do not need three full sized humbuckers in one guitar.
Yes, it looks cool. But the extra pull from those magnets destroys any additional tonal depth you'd get from the middle pickup. Buy a chorus pedal, it'll do better.
E.
You do not need sharkfin/cross/flying bats/lightning bolt inlays.
They do not make you play any faster, better or improve your sound in any way.
F.
You do not need onboard effects.
They only suffice to suck tone from your amlifier and shrink at most 2 pedals from your board. Plus, they sound digitial and are of low quality.
F#.
You do not need a Bigger/better/active/mohagany/tube anything until you've learned music theory and scales.
G.
You do not need an attenuator, you need a smaller amplifier.
(see A)
G#.
You do not need to buy a bigger amp to be heard over the drummer.
If your drummer is louder than a tube 2x12, you need a quieter drummer.


There you go.
One octave of things you don't need.
peace


A: I agree
A#: Now youre just being an idiot
B: No, I dont NEED a FR/humbuckers/anything, but as other things its a nice addition... And you dont lose lots of flexibility, you phail
C: No, you dont need em, but if you play nothing but metal and have a killer amp, why not?
C#: Agreed
D: Agreed
D#: Agreed
E: Neither does dot inlays
F: Agreed
F#: No, but if you want it and can afford it, why dont?
G: They dont make Splawn Nitro 5w amps, now what?
G# No drummer is louder than 212 tubes, unless its broken
#40
Quote by Iansmitchell
If you put a damage control preamp first inline and everything else has true bypass, then another tube boost, you might just get away with it.
But really, yeah, I think I made the right point.

Also, 7 strings still seem pointless.
You have twenty something frets, you already have a B string.
You want range, an octave down or pitch shifter is still cheaper than a 7 string.



well you sound like someone who can't use one

I think a 6 is wimpy and dainty, and i prefer a larger range
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