#1
Alright, i bought my TRAYNOR YCV50 BLUE,
Now to retube it!!!! Fun!

What tubes should i put in this sucker?
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#2
Nice buy
Well...what don't you like about the current tone, and what would you like to add?
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#3
Yeah, what kind of tones are you after?
Also, what power tubes does it take, and how many tubes are in it?
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#4
2 power tubes and 3 preamp tubes
I like the tone, but ive heard i can get an even better tone out of it with new tubes.
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#5
Errrrhem, 2 EL34 and 3 - 12AX7A

to be exact.
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#6
JJ's make darn fine EL tubes. I'd look into a pair of JJ EL84's, unless you can get your hands on something better.
Tung-sol makes great 12AX7's, too. If you're after darker tones, JJ 12AX7's should work too.

Just curious, what tubes are in it now (brand)?
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#7
Bryan - congrats on the amp dude, nice purchase!

But why are you in a rush to swap out the tubes. Let tem tubes and speaker break in first and mess with all your other tone parameters. Just a suggestion. If you hit the amp hard you may need new tubes in a year anyway so personally would just roll wit it.

#8
Just curious, what tubes are in it now (brand)?

Don't know, ha ha

Bryan - congrats on the amp dude, nice purchase!

But why are you in a rush to swap out the tubes. Let them tubes and speaker break in first and mess with all your other tone parameters. Just a suggestion. If you hit the amp hard you may need new tubes in a year anyway so personally would just roll wit it.


Thanks man, I'm not sure, this is my first tube amp that i have owned.
And i want it to sound the best it can, but good point, i guess i could
wait a while and get used to the sound. I need to get some money for
the tubes anyways, so I'm just anxious to find out what i should put in
there i suppose.


As far as tone goes, I'm kind of a tone noob, because i know what i like,
BUT, i just dont know what to call it. So by darker tone and stuff like that
I have no clue what that means. So any help with words like that for a
idiot, would be great ha ha. Thanks.
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Traynor YCV50 BLUE

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#9
Well, check what brand are in it ATM.
If you have something halfway decent, it'd probably be worth it to wait until they die out.
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#10
^Agreed. Give the tubes a look. You may have a perfectly fine set of tubes. If you have Groove tubes or sovtek, though, get them out pretty soon.

That said, I was perfectly happy with my new tube amp for a year of Groove tubes. It's not a horrible idea to get used to the amps character, first. You'll appreciate it more when you get better tubes in. Plus, you'll have time to figure out what you want to adjust about the tone. For instance, I realized i had to much gain, so i put in a 5751 to cut gain, but improve my overall tone.
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#11
premium Sovtek 12AX7A dual-triode tubes, and a pair of Sovtek EL34s.

=O
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#12
exactly

and Darker typically means warmer with more bass response aka more metally or even more bluesy (are those words?)

where Brighter typically means lighter with more treble response aka more poppy or jazzy or Strat like. (again are those words?)

either way, get to know your amp, it's tone, your settings, let things break in, do some more research and read what others are doing with similar situation. you will then be able to better determine what needs to be changed - if anything.

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#13
I do love my bass around nine, and my treble at 6, i like that punchy sound i get when i palm mute lol.... as long as it doesnt get mudddddddddyyyyy.
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#14
Quote by BryanChampine
premium Sovtek 12AX7A dual-triode tubes, and a pair of Sovtek EL34s.

=O


I wouldn't blame you for getting those out of there (although i can't say i've personally tried the Sovtek EL34s). Buy my post still stands. It won't hurt to get to know your amp a little better first.
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#15
Yeah, I'll come back to this thread in about a month.
Thanks for all the great advice guys,
+1 to all of you hahahaha
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#16
after playing this amp for a long time, i cant find anything i dislike about the tone.
hmmmmmmmmmmmmm...... Traynor Pron anyone?
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#17
Congrats Bryan, those are great amps. I'm with everyone else on the wait a bit to go changing things. I thought about it initially with both my tube amps, but haven't changed a thing because I love my tone and it leaves something to do in the future. Congrats again and yes, pron is required. How is it that I am the first to say....


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Traynor YCV50 BLUE

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Line 6 DL-4

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#20
Electro Harmonix EL 34
Tung-Sol 12ax7
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#21
Just leave them in there. Wait a month or more until you know what you want to change about the tone. You may not even NEED to change them.
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#22
Mullard RI el84's.... Tung Sol 12ax7 in V1, JJ ecc83s in V2, any decent tube in v3... maybe another JJ?
#23
Ok so, I've come back after quite a while. The tubes are dying, so its time to change them.

Some of the things i dont like about the tone is that its a little too gritty for me, I want it to be darker, and more gain is always good.

I'm really looking for the premium smooth high gain sound here.
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#24
I was thinking about JJ E34L ( 6CA7 )
Possibly with gold pin pre amp tubes.
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#25
If you like smooth tones, i'd look into JJ power tubes, and maybe JJ preamp tubes (forget the gold pins though). But, i'd get an assortment of preamp tubes to try them out and see what you like.
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#26
^Agreed.

JJs for power tubes is a good choice I think along with Mullards.

I would also do what darkarbiter7 suggested with getting a mix of preamp tubes. All JJs in preamp section is not necessarily a good thing. I would maybe get 1 JJ and 1 Penta Labs and one Sovtek. Then you can mix then around until you get the flavor you want.
#27
Yeah, when it comes to preamp tubes, it's nice to have an assortment. Not just JJs all across the board.
Usually you'll want an assortment of dark preamp tubes JJs, and a brighter ones like Tungsols, and maybe one or two lower gain variants (like 12AT7s or 5751s).
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#28
Tung-sol's make superb tubes, both el34's and 12ax7's!

Edit: They're great for higher gain, more harmonics, and low microphonics. Ehx for preamps is also a good option for higher gain and low harmonics.
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#29
Agreed. If I had to choose one brand of modern production tubes to stick with, I would go with tungsol.
They don't do the dark and smooth thing like JJ does though.
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#30
So whats the ddeal with goldpin preamp tubes?
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#31
They are marketed to have better contact with the tube sockets, and although it may help the contact, the tonal difference is very minuscule.
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#32
JJ High gain 12AX7's, and JJ EL34's, thats what I'm running.
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