#1
yeah, i was was playing along with ride the lightning (album) today and some of the open E chugging stuff was just too fast to keep up with..... i was playing pickless as ive heard cliff (r.i.p.) didnt use a pick... could anyone explain how he played this fast without a pick?
#2
i think he used two fingers while picking? so practice getting speed while doing that?
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#4
Well if you're only using two fingers try 3 for some part of the riff. i use three for battery when its the fast open e gallop. I think I've seen cliff sometimes use 4 fingers but usually during his solos. hoped this helped you in some way
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Well if you're only using two fingers try 3 for some part of the riff. i use three for battery when its the fast open e gallop. I think I've seen cliff sometimes use 4 fingers but usually during his solos. hoped this helped you in some way

Yea, he'd use 4 occasionally for solos but as far as I know he was a strict two finger player......Get a metronome and do straight 8ths on the open E and slowly increase the tempo....I too am having a little trouble with this album.
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#6
If you try 3 fingers make sure you don't accent with the same finger each time unless you play like 3212 because then it will just sound like triplets. The get the speed get sit down with a metronome and work it up to speed starting slower than you usually play it.
#7
I read he practises up to 5hours a day even after got famous. If you havent been practising that much, it might just be the reason.
#8
You don't need to practice five hours a day to play RTL. The fretting isn't confusing and there aren't any big stretches; the only thing is if you haven't actively tried to speed up your picking before it seems fast.
#10
Practice. Find a slower song on that album like for whom the bell tolls that you can probably already play because its slow. Then build the pace up, the chromatic riff after the "Solo" at the start is a good riff to try with this.

Make sure you are using 2 fingers (normally index and middle) and not just one as this gets you nowhere.
#11
learn the fingering and play it to a slower tempo till u build up speed
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#13
I'm not a big Metallica fan, but I wanted to play faster on some Flea riffs. What helped me was Led Zeppelin's "ramble on". Practice that fast riff over and over. Also turn up the gain so you don't have to pluck the hell out of your strings, a very soft touch is needed. Let the electronics do the work.
#14
I can guarentee that if you keep plucking away, you will eventually get fast enough. Over the past year of about 1-2 hours a day, I can play twice as fast as before (I've been playing for 3 years, but did very little practice for the first one). You might not notice it to begin with, but every time you play your fingers will get faster. If anything, starting to use a pick will just give you more trouble as you attempt to speed up with that (although if you prefer the sound, go for it).
#15
im not a bass player, but he really doesn't use a pick?
after listening to anesthesia pulling teeth, thats amazing.
#16
If you want to learn to play fast and not follow what Cliff did, look up Steve DiGiorgio's technique
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#17
AFAIK Burton uses pick on some songs in Ride the Lightning.

I think Fight Fire with Fire's one of them.
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AFAIK Burton uses pick on some songs in Ride the Lightning.

I think Fight Fire with Fire's one of them.

Pretty sure he never used a pick......

Steve DiGiorgio is a pretty beastly bassist....
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#20
As for Cliff's technique, I believe that he rarely anchored his right thumb to the pickup. I know Steve Harris also does this, so maybe they do it for the increased speed or comfort?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=IcsaBKoK9-o (as seen at 1:25)

But when crossing strings I'm sure he anchors his thumb on the lower string.
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As for Cliff's technique, I believe that he rarely anchored his right thumb to the pickup. I know Steve Harris also does this, so maybe they do it for the increased speed or comfort?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=IcsaBKoK9-o (as seen at 1:25)

But when crossing strings I'm sure he anchors his thumb on the lower string.

As far as anchoring I'm pretty sure he used the E and A only. I can get decently fast for playing a year and anchoring on the pickup slows me down. (Probably because it's out of my usual habits)
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#22
When I go up on the higher strings I always subconsciously anchor my finger on the E string. It just came naturally I guess.

Something I did to build finger strength was to buy a stress ball thingy, and I would just squeeze that for 30 minutes when I went to bed. I noticed a big difference after like, a week or so.