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#1
Hello

I was wondering if anyone has been to the opening of Reverb in the UK. If you have please can you tell me which one you went to and what it was like. Does it look like it will be good? I'm going on monday.


Thanks
#3
Its the new music shop right?
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#5
It's basically Sound Control, with a new sign outside.

I wouldn't expect miracles.
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Im just hoping it'l close down again so I can get in on the sales




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It's basically Sound Control, with a new sign outside.

I wouldn't expect miracles.

No it isn't, they're selling out all the SC stock at 20% off, and they are owned by a company that also owns Schecter guitars...

They have a lot more working behind the scenes than SC did.
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So you're telling me that a generic guitar/music shop will be having entirely new stock when they already have a plethora of generic fender/gibson et al? Get some business sense.

It'll be the same operational staff (with whom you actually deal) and the same layout. It'll be the same end product - lacklustre nerdy snobs 'giving you evils' when you go near anything.
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So you're telling me that a generic guitar/music shop will be having entirely new stock when they already have a plethora of generic fender/gibson et al? Get some business sense.

It'll be the same operational staff (with whom you actually deal) and the same layout. It'll be the same end product - lacklustre nerdy snobs 'giving you evils' when you go near anything.

You need to get some business sence RE: the fact that they are owned by a bigger company (Arbiter) that already aquired numerous prestigious guitar brands. Sound Control were owned by a small company that managed to get itself into debt WITHOUT buying numerous other brands who folded at the first sign of trouble...

They are NOT THE SAME COMPANY, while you can continue generalising about floor staff, you can't just pretend the same people are operating the business.
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You need to get some business sence RE: the fact that they are owned by a bigger company (Arbiter) that already aquired numerous prestigious guitar brands. Sound Control were owned by a small company that managed to get itself into debt WITHOUT buying numerous other brands who folded at the first sign of trouble...


Numerous prestegious brands? I can count Schecter and Moog and Sabian as their main cash-cows. The others (with maybe a one or two exceptions) are entry-level generic brands. They're hardly a massive entity.

They are NOT THE SAME COMPANY, while you can continue generalising about floor staff, you can't just pretend the same people are operating the business.


I'm well aware that legally, they will be a seperate entity. However, when they purchased SC, they had to take on their debt and existing staff. They've essentially re-packaged a failing company and will attempt to make it economically viable.
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#11
Sound control are ****. I know a guy (brother of Pete Cobain, who owns bandwagon in perth) who's shop was bought by sound control. He stayed manager, but they bought him out... then they went down the pan and he's needin' a new job. :/ lol
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Numerous prestegious brands? I can count Schecter and Moog and Sabian as their main cash-cows. The others (with maybe a one or two exceptions) are entry-level generic brands. They're hardly a massive entity.

I'm well aware that legally, they will be a seperate entity. However, when they purchased SC, they had to take on their debt and existing staff. They've essentially re-packaged a failing company and will attempt to make it economically viable.

They have not bought the company, nor have they bought its debts...they only took the 6 shop fronts...the sale of SCs assets may have covered whatever debt they had built up (I believe there last posted loss was over £2 million and they hadn't published their accounts since 2006)...

If they wanted to take the physical company they could have invested in Turnkey by buying a controlling share, they do not own shares in Turnkey or Sound Control...the decision to keep staff was not as part of some deal...it was a sensible option to open the shops as quickly as possible...they simply are not controlling SC as a company...
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They have not bought the company, nor have they bought its debts...they only took the 6 shop fronts...the sale of SCs assets may have covered whatever debt they had built up (I believe there last posted loss was over £2 million and they hadn't published their accounts since 2006)...

If they wanted to take the physical company they could have invested in Turnkey by buying a controlling share, they do not own shares in Turnkey or Sound Control...the decision to keep staff was not as part of some deal...it was a sensible option to open the shops as quickly as possible...they simply are not controlling SC as a company...


So you're assuming the covering of assets based upon a limited company who don't publish their accounts (nor do they have an obligation to)?

Sound Control Holdings Ltd and Sound Control Modern Music Stores Ltd are in Administration and will have sold the assets under the auspices of the administrator.

Going back to my original point, there will be no substantive change in the services offered by Reverb as opposed to Sound Control as an entity. I give it two years tops before it folds.
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Don't argue with Cag, he usually has the right idea, plus he's a Hearts fan and knows a lot about failing business/clubs and debts

oh and
Does this mean that Sound Control in Edinburgh will turn into a Reverb?
Or is that place just shutting down.
It was crap like but still, it gave us something to do uptown.
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So you're assuming the covering of assets based upon a limited company who don't publish their accounts (nor do they have an obligation to)?

Sound Control Holdings Ltd and Sound Control Modern Music Stores Ltd are in Administration and will have sold the assets under the auspices of the administrator.

Going back to my original point, there will be no substantive change in the services offered by Reverb as opposed to Sound Control as an entity. I give it two years tops before it folds.

I said MAY have, I didn't say the cash they get for the sale of assets would definitely cover whatever debt they have totalled. The point is they are selling the assets of the company, not the company itself, the other point about not publishing was that I don't know how much worse off they are doing after a £2m loss two years ago.

oh and Does this mean that Sound Control in Edinburgh will turn into a Reverb? Or is that place just shutting down. It was crap like but still, it gave us something to do uptown.

Edinburgh isn't on their website, so no it won't.

The Edinburgh property was bought by a new company called Red Dog Music, which is owned by a former Sound Control manager.
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ALl I know is that the one in glasgow and the one in dundee are both shutting down.
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ALl I know is that the one in glasgow and the one in dundee are both shutting down.

Independent music store CC Music, have taken over the lease of Sound Control's former Otago Street store in Glasgow and will be opening a specialist Guitar and PA retail shop with an emphasis on service and customer care.
http://www.mi-pro.co.uk/news/29539/CC-Music-scoops-Glasgow-West
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...Which is employed by the same extremely helpful staff as always.

As said, I give it two years, tops.
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#19
The people in sound control in glasgow were twats.

Though, i think worse were the people in...was it called 'Guitar'? Can't remember anymore. Either way, they were worse.

EDIT: What's the shop with the anniversary gold strat downstairs, and the horrible big fluffy marshall? That shop, wankers.
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#20
ok, i didnt want this to turn into some kind of debate.

I wanted to know from anyone who has been today, what was it like
#21
I went to the one here in Brum, they were putting up the new sign at the time. It is EXACTLY the same as SoundControl. They just have a new name. FFS they still use the old Soundcontrol bags!

I do like the 20% discount though. When I went they guy gave me a free set of strings because he couldn't be arsed to get change lol.
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The people in sound control in glasgow were twats.

Though, i think worse were the people in...was it called 'Guitar'? Can't remember anymore. Either way, they were worse.

EDIT: What's the shop with the anniversary gold strat downstairs, and the horrible big fluffy marshall? That shop, wankers.
GuitarGuitar?

Stunning name for a guitar shop

They have a good selection.
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The people in sound control in glasgow were twats.

Though, i think worse were the people in...was it called 'Guitar'? Can't remember anymore. Either way, they were worse.

EDIT: What's the shop with the anniversary gold strat downstairs, and the horrible big fluffy marshall? That shop, wankers.

There is a place on Argyl Street, imaginatively named the Guitar Store that's a sh*tehouse(owned by the same mob that own Victor Morris IIRC).
Guitar Guitar over by the Trongate is a better store IMO(I actually went to Reverb, Merchant City Music, McCormacks and Guitar Guitar today - only got a 'hello' in Guitar Guitar).
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GuitarGuitar?

Stunning name for a guitar shop

They have a good selection.
I was quite impressed by their selection, but I didn't look through everything(only stayed on the one floor). The real problem with it is it's so far away from the bus(well, the bus I take, anyway).
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#24
If it's similair to soundcontrol ill be okay then. I just want to try 2 amps out and then buy them online. Who the hell pays £350 for an amps when you could pay £250 or less.
#25
I ventured into the sheffield one today - waste of time. Amount of stock was very limited and the prices were very high.

Very little that interested me and the prices put me off getting anything that might have interested me.
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what are the opening times/days for glasgow?

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any opening times? i need them urgently

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#29
Are Reverb stocking Schecter? Some guy above suggested they were owned by the company that owns schecter, I have great interest in buying a Tempest at some point in the future.
#30
I used to live on Otago street, went to buy a new strap - the bastards were shut
GuitarGuitar were quite friendly on the few occasions I've been in.
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#31
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I like the Soundcontrol in Edinburgh. :<


It's not quite away, it's Red Dog Music now or something, or so the sign said last week when I was in.


Aye, the staff in GuitarGuitar aren't always the most knowledgeable but they're pretty damn sound I'd say. Same goes for the shop on St John's Road in Edinburgh.
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The people in sound control in glasgow were twats.

Though, i think worse were the people in...was it called 'Guitar'? Can't remember anymore. Either way, they were worse.

EDIT: What's the shop with the anniversary gold strat downstairs, and the horrible big fluffy marshall? That shop, wankers.


GuitarGuitar?!

They've always been really friendly with me but, to be fair, whenever I've been in, I spend a fortune - my Strat and then 3 set-ups at once.

So, they seem to remember me and treat me well
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#33
^^I like the guys in GuitarGuitar. I've only been in a couple of times mind, but they are always really friendly and i've never even bought anything.

As far as Reverb goes, not been in it yet. I was going to go to the opening but I couldn't be bothered... I had no one to go with

Kind of happy I didn't go but because my head was killing me that day so meh.
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I've caught the the folk in GuitarGuitar trying to talk up guitars that i've played and understand to be either mediocre or actually below average ( a rare feat in this modern world) as if they were actually worth the money they wanted me to pay. Couple of times now they've tried to hoist stuff on me and pretend like id' be getting some sort of a good deal,
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to TS, the one in birmingham?
its getting alot better, theyre ordering alot more amps and guitars in,
They have two Randell KH sig amps in, and talking to one of the guys, he said theyre getting esp's in too

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I've caught the the folk in GuitarGuitar trying to talk up guitars that i've played and understand to be either mediocre or actually below average ( a rare feat in this modern world) as if they were actually worth the money they wanted me to pay. Couple of times now they've tried to hoist stuff on me and pretend like id' be getting some sort of a good deal,

It IS their job to sell you stuff.
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to TS, the one in birmingham?
its getting alot better, theyre ordering alot more amps and guitars in,
They have two Randell KH sig amps in, and talking to one of the guys, he said theyre getting esp's in too



i phoned the one in birmingham today but they had no fender blues junior

when i phoned leicester there was no reply.... three times, why would one be open and the other closed?
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Are Reverb stocking Schecter? Some guy above suggested they were owned by the company that owns schecter, I have great interest in buying a Tempest at some point in the future.

Yes they are, both Reverb and Schecter are owned by a company named Arbiter, but Reverb will not *exclusively* distribute Schecter guitars, they'll be in any shop that it normally would be.
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Are Reverb stocking Schecter? Some guy above suggested they were owned by the company that owns schecter, I have great interest in buying a Tempest at some point in the future.

The one in Glasgow does. On your left as you go in.
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It IS their job to sell you stuff.



lol, yes, but if it's also their job to try and pass off cheap **** as worthwhile and 'bend the truth' about instruments to get me to buy them... then their job can **** off.
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