Poll: What are your political views?
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Left
71 61%
Right
29 25%
Centre
43 37%
Voters: 116.
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#1
Yes I know there's a political thread except I wanted to get a poll on this one and it would be too hard to do in there. So I just wanted to know the political views of all of the ugers, and their motivations for those, so please just state those and don't insult the other ideologies.

And by the way, if you consider yourself left or right based on today's leading political parties, just put yourself as centre.

And I'm aware that these are massive generalisations.
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#3
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#4
You do realise that left-right-centre is an incredibly weak descriptor? I'd advise linking to the political compass.


(double checks, yes you do realise )



That's where I sit.

...I love how close the pope is to osama bin laden, darth vader and stalin
Last edited by rizo299 at Jul 7, 2008,
#5
don't vote for politicians; it just encourages them.
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My life in all aspects is going fucking brilliantly, so I just thought I'd offer a cyncial scrap of wisdom, gloat a little, and then leave.
#7
i'm with the Alliance to legalize cannabis... despite the fact i don't use cannabis.
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#8
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Should we vote for Big Brother contestants instead?



what is Big Brother? i thought it was the gov't spying eye in George Orwell's "1984".
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This man is right.


My life in all aspects is going fucking brilliantly, so I just thought I'd offer a cyncial scrap of wisdom, gloat a little, and then leave.
#9
Quote by LedZeppelin9345
what is Big Brother? i thought it was the gov't spying eye in George Orwell's "1984".

Basically.


He doesn't seem to realise that the right is far closer to the government in 1984 than the left. Hence the patriot act etc.
#11
Quote by LedZeppelin9345
what is Big Brother? i thought it was the gov't spying eye in George Orwell's "1984".


You have no idea how lucky you are. No idea. Don't look it up, avoid it at all costs. I'll tell you one thing.

More people voted in one season of Big Brother than in the last General Election in the UK.
#12
Quote by rizo299
You do realise that left-right-centre is an incredibly weak descriptor? I'd advise linking to the political compass.


(double checks, yes you do realise )



That's where I sit.

...I love how close the pope is to osama bin laden, darth vader and stalin

Where's that test? Looks intriguing.
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#13
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what is Big Brother? i thought it was the gov't spying eye in George Orwell's "1984".
it's a tv show that's cool as rocks..
#14
Quote by denizenz
For the most part, I'm a Libertarian/Constitutionalist.

Well, of course, if you want to be logical and reasonable.
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#15
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Well, of course, if you want to be logical and reasonable.





Libertarians, logical?

That activated my hilarity unit!

lol
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#16
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Where's that test? Looks intriguing.



I concur.


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#17
Quote by rizo299





Please post a link for this test.

I'm consider myself center. I took a test once that said I was a collectivist. The only problem with that is that I don't like collectivism.
#18
Your political compass

Economic Left/Right: -8.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.41
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#19
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Libertarians, logical?

That activated my hilarity unit!

lol


I don't understand why everyone hates Libertarianism and instead favors socialism or communism. There isn't a functioning economy that isn't libertarian/austrian in foundation, and it's the only political system that works in an unutopian society and still favors the rights of each individual...

You can keep your distribution of wealth. I prefer to keep the money I've earned and to teach people that they should earn their own. Mostly because that's called growing up and being a responsible adult. I haven't gotten an allowance since I was about 10 years old...
#21
Quote by denizenz
I don't understand why everyone hates Libertarianism and instead favors socialism or communism. There isn't a functioning economy that isn't libertarian/austrian in foundation, and it's the only political system that works in an unutopian society and still favors the rights of each individual...

You can keep your distribution of wealth. I prefer to keep the money I've earned and to teach people that they should earn their own. Mostly because that's called growing up and being a responsible adult. I haven't gotten an allowance since I was about 10 years old...


I won't be debating with you here, politics thread is for that.
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#22
Hey guys, just did the test, i am:

Economic Left/Right: -3.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.44

Pretty much what I thought as well

What i also found interesting was the page on UK Parties (http://www.politicalcompass.org/extremeright)

its so sad but so true to see the changing ways of Labour in the last 30 years :'(
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#24
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I don't understand why everyone hates Libertarianism and instead favors socialism or communism. There isn't a functioning economy that isn't libertarian/austrian in foundation, and it's the only political system that works in an unutopian society and still favors the rights of each individual...

You can keep your distribution of wealth. I prefer to keep the money I've earned and to teach people that they should earn their own. Mostly because that's called growing up and being a responsible adult.
if by growing up, you mean resigning yourself to a rat race driven by individual interests, in pursuit of solely material incentives... like a bunch of vultures fighting over a dead zebra... i agree
#25
Quote by blackflag49
if by growing up, you mean resigning yourself to a rat race driven by individual interests, in pursuit of solely material incentives... like a bunch of vultures fighting over a dead zebra... i agree



How does any other political ideology change that? You haven't been on this planet very long have you?

Also, I'd like to take the chance to ask your religious views...because if you say anything other than religious/deist, you're going to overheat my hypocrisy meter.
#26
Quote by denizenz

Also, I'd like to take the chance to ask your religious views...because if you say anything other than religious/deist, you're going to overheat my hypocrisy meter.

I disagree strongly with that. Altruism etc don't necessarily need religion to function.
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#27
Left, without being genuinely interested or knowing too much about politics.
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#28
Quote by denizenz


How does any other political ideology change that? You haven't been on this planet very long have you?

Also, I'd like to take the chance to ask your religious views...because if you say anything other than religious/deist, you're going to overheat my hypocrisy meter.
and out comes the ad hominem..

well, like you said, socialism and communism, redistribution of wealth: from each according to his ability, to each according to his need..

let people be driven by moral, rather than material incentives.

im an atheist..
#30
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I disagree strongly with that. Altruism etc don't necessarily need religion to function.

He was hinting at the fact that life has purpose other than egoistic selfishness. The only way to support that conclusion philosophically (that I know of) is through religion...mostly because objectivism fails..

Quote by blackflag49
and out comes the ad hominem..

I didn't once attack you other than the offhanded and obviously sarcastic remark about your length of time on the planet Earth. It was preceded by a serious question which you neglected to answer.

well, like you said, socialism and communism, redistribution of wealth: from each according to his ability, to each according to his need..

let people be driven by moral, rather than material incentives.

You don't think capitalism is or can be driven by morality? Distribution of wealth is called theft. It's a governing body spending your money for you...it has nothing to do with good morals because you have no choice.

im an atheist..

So support your statement that life has purpose.
Last edited by denizenz at Jul 7, 2008,
#31
Quote by blackflag49
and out comes the ad hominem..

well, like you said, socialism and communism, redistribution of wealth: from each according to his ability, to each according to his need..

let people be driven by moral, rather than material incentives.

im an atheist..

If it wasn't for capitalism, you wouldn't be enjoying the quality of life you have now, sitting down by your computer typing on the internet and more.

Capitalism also gives people more opportunities as well. It's about getting the balance and helping everyone out.
#32
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If it wasn't for capitalism, you wouldn't be enjoying the quality of life you have now, sitting down by your computer typing on the internet and more.

Capitalism also gives people more opportunities as well. It's about getting the balance and helping everyone out.
in a free market, when a corporation grows richer and richer, sucking the soul out of people, how does that in any way working towards a balance, and "helping everyone out"

their only obligation is to their stockholders

it's not about any balance, it's about exploitation
#33
Your political compass

Economic Left/Right: -8.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.

Have they updated it or something? It never used to look like that pic someone linked to.
#34
Quote by blackflag49
in a free market, when a corporation grows richer and richer, sucking the soul out of people, how does that in any way working towards a balance, and "helping everyone out"

their only obligation is to their stockholders

it's not about any balance, it's about exploitation

Free markets are started and maintained by the consumer...if they didn't want their soul to get sucked out they wouldn't buy the products from said corporation.

Don't like big oil? Ride a fucking bike hypocrite.

The obligation is to the consumer...because that's who pays the shareholders.
#35
The liberal democrats need to move more to the left, and "down a bit"

Though in all honesty I think they are doing.
#36
Quote by denizenz
You don't think capitalism is or can be driven by morality?
maybe in a few instances, but overall.. nope.
Quote by denizenz
Distribution of wealth is called theft. It's a governing body spending your money for you...it has nothing to do with good morals because you have no choice.
you could look at it that way.. or you could look at it as using society's capital to benefit everyone equally, work towards the common good.
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So support your statement that life has purpose.
i.. don't recall making that statement.

i said we should be driven by morality, rather than greed.
#37
Quote by blackflag49
in a free market, when a corporation grows richer and richer, sucking the soul out of people, how does that in any way working towards a balance, and "helping everyone out"

their only obligation is to their stockholders

it's not about any balance, it's about exploitation

Good thing I don't put my faith in a free market then
#38
Quote by blackflag49

i.. don't recall making that statement.

i said we should be driven by morality, rather than greed.

You said that libertarianism harbors an ideology of selfishness. This implies there is some other purpose...one that you can't support as an atheist because morality doesn't exist.

You can't logically support objective morals or objective purpose without a deity.
#39
Quote by denizenz
Free markets are started and maintained by the consumer...if they didn't want their soul to get sucked out they wouldn't buy the products from said corporation.

Don't like big oil? Ride a fucking bike hypocrite.

The obligation is to the consumer...because that's who pays the shareholders.
temper, man..

really, what choice does the consumer have?

if i have to commute to work, 20 miles away, you can't expect me to ride a bike.

as it is, you pretty much have to buy into the system.
#40
Quote by denizenz
one that you can't support as an atheist because morality doesn't exist.

Wrong.
Objective morality exists and is dictated by the society of the times. It changes but at any given time it is objective.

My life has a purpose, to make the world a slightly better place before I have to leave it.
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