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#1
inspired by the thread like this that contained a youtube video, i decided to make a similar thread but with a bit higher quality clips.

here's how it works:
there are 10 clips (2 for each amp) , they can all be either SS (includes SS modelers ! ) or tube. no hybrids or tube modelers like the Line 6 spider valve.

there are too many options to do a poll, so just fill in this and post it:

the amp in the first 2 soundclips is: SS- tube

the second amp is: SS-tube

the third amp is: SS-tube

the fourth amp is: SS-tube

the fifth amp is: SS-tube



here are the soundclips:
http://www.purevolume.com/theredstrat/albums/99482392
oh, and PLEASE don't look at others for their opinions, if you don't think you can hear, then don't vote. bandwagoning/parroting will screw up the results.

i'll make a graph of the results when enough people have posted.

UPDATE: graph and amps at page 6. *warning: spoiler for those who haven't listened yet*



Last edited by The red Strat. at Jul 9, 2008,
#2
This is a good idea, just don't reveal the answers too soon like the last thread that died a while ago with the Marshall MG.

I'll post my answers in a minute

Amp 1: Solid State (Pretty good tone)
Amp 2: Solid State (Didn't really like the tone)
Amp 3: Solid State (It was alright)
Amp 4: Tube (Best tone)
Amp 5: Solid State (Second best tone)


Hey same answers!
Last edited by Geartrigger at Jul 8, 2008,
#3
Amp 1 sounds like an SS
Amp 2 sounds like an SS
Amp 3 sounds like an SS
Amp 4 sounded like tube (If it's not, it's very convincing)
Amp 5 sounded like SS


It's harder to tell in sound clips than in real life, but I think most of the clips you put up are from a modeler of some sort.
#4
Quote by Geartrigger
This is a good idea, just don't reveal the answers too soon like the last thread that died a while ago with the Marshall MG.


linky to that thread ? i don't remember...
Last edited by The red Strat. at Jul 8, 2008,
#6
the amp in the first 2 soundclips is: SS- tube

the second amp is: SS-tube

the third amp is: SS-tube

the fourth amp is: SS-tube

the fifth amp is: SS-tube

In all honesty, they all seemed to have some characteristics of solid state amps. Great playing, but to my ears your tone could have used some more warmth overall (it wasn't bad though). Then again, it could have been there and it just got lost in the recording process - we all know that's never a perfect thing.

edit: wow i got same answers. lol

edit 2: ah.
#9
Quote by The red Strat.
linky to that thread ? i don't remember...


It was a while ago but the guy told everyone it was an mg after about 10 posts or so.
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#11
I can't see the clips...
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#13
the amp in the first 2 soundclips is: I can't quite decide, leaning towards SS but the playing is throwing me, might be a cheap tube/dodgily-eq'd tube?

the second amp is: SS

the third amp is: SS

the fourth amp is: tube probably, again I dislike the tone though, can't decide

the fifth amp is: SS is what i'm guessing.

I don't like any of them particularly much. he could also let the notes sustain, he's clearly deliberately made it hard to choose.
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#15
I can't listen since i'm at work, but i'll be interested in seeing the results.
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#16
i didn't listen to the last one but i felt that the first two seemed more linear if that is the right word and the last two had more dynamics/feel/acousticness/mistakes (not really what i mean, just more picking dynamics).

Amp1 = SS
Amp2 = SS
Amp3 = Tube
Amp4 = Tube
Amp5 = SS

Actually, they all sounded pretty good tone wise so I'll be real interested in the final results. Where is the chart you are talking about, or are you posting that after you 'close'?

Thanks for putting all of that together. My only suggestion, although boring, would be to do the same exact riff for each.

Edit: OK, I guess you didn't do the recordings? You are not Steve? I still think the same riff is an even better comparison.

Edit: OK, didn't see the 5th one the first time. Last one was tough. The second clip sounded more 'tubey' then the 1st on that 5th amp but I'll say SS anyway.
Last edited by 311ZOSOVHJH at Jul 8, 2008,
#17
Quote by 311ZOSOVHJH
i didn't listen to the last one but i felt that the first two seemed more linear if that is the right word and the last two had more dynamics/feel/acousticness/mistakes (not really what i mean, just more picking dynamics).
Amp1 = SS
Amp2 = SS
Amp3 = Tube
Amp4 = Tube

Actually, they all sounded pretty good tone wise so I'll be real interested in the final results. Where is the chart you are talking about, or are you posting that after you 'close'?

Thanks for putting all of that together. My only suggestion, although boring, would be to do the same exact riff for each.

Edit: OK, I guess you didn't do the recordings? You are not Steve? I still think the same riff is an even better comparison.


could you listen to the fifth too ? it would be much easier for me to make the chart (that i'll make after i 'close').


i didn't do the recordings, no, but it am steven
#18
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could you listen to the fifth too ? it would be much easier for me to make the chart (that i'll make after i 'close').


i didn't do the recordings, no, but it am steven


OK. I edited my original. Sorry, i didn't see the 5th amp on first try.
#19
amp 1- SS (pretty good tone)
amp 2-SS (bad tone)
amp 3- definitely tube (sounds really good)
amp 4- either good SS or bad tube
amp 5- sounds Tube to me
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#21
Amp 1: SS. The tone was decent though. It just didn't have that tube mojo going on.
Amp 2: Pretty sure it's an SS. Kind of harsh sounding.
Amp 3: Not 100%, but i'm guessing it's a tube amp.
Amp 4: Sounds like a poorly EQed tube amp, I didn't like the tone, but it sounded more like a tube than an SS.
Amp 5: Sounds like an SS.

I only listened a little, and a few of these are guesses.
The guy made it really hard to tell though.
I may be wrong on a few.
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#22
1. SS
2. SS
3. SS i think, just a guess.
4. Tube
5. SS
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#23
Amp 1: SS
Amp 2: SS (Sounds like an MG lmao)
Amp 3: SS (Pretty good)
Amp 4: ****ty Tube, or just EQ'd weird or bad settings, but a tube.
Amp 5: SS
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#24
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amp 1- SS (pretty good tone)
amp 2-SS (bad tone)
amp 3- definitely tube (sounds really good)
amp 4- either good SS or bad tube
amp 5- sounds Tube to me

i gotta know which one, otherwise i can't make the graph decently.
#25
I'll be honest, they all sounded sort of digital and SS-like to me. Even #4.
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#26
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i gotta know which one, otherwise i can't make the graph decently.



Alrighty then.... I would say amp 4 sounds like a poorly eq'ed or just plain bad tube amp.
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#28
How many opinions are you going to gather before you actually show the correct answers?
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I think 10 or 20 would be sufficient. But, once this thread starts to lose steam (when people stop listening), you should reveal the real answers.
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#31
Quote by MrCarrot
the amp in the first 2 soundclips is: I can't quite decide, leaning towards SS but the playing is throwing me, might be a cheap tube/dodgily-eq'd tube?

the second amp is: SS

the third amp is: SS

the fourth amp is: tube probably, again I dislike the tone though, can't decide

the fifth amp is: SS is what i'm guessing.

I don't like any of them particularly much. he could also let the notes sustain, he's clearly deliberately made it hard to choose.

do i take that as SS, or tube ?

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I think 10 or 20 would be sufficient. But, once this thread starts to lose steam (when people stop listening), you should reveal the real answers.

ok.
#33
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i dunno, you got a proposal ?


I would leave it up as long as you can to get some more opinions, although i realize that is more work for you.

I would leave it up until it gets to the second page with several hours of no bumps.

Also, I would Edit your original post to tell people to NOT read everyone elses comments or you may end up with a bunch of bandwagoning that will only skew the results.
#34
Quote by The red Strat.
do i take that as SS, or tube ?


ok.
SS I guess.

I must say I really dislike the tone in all of these clips
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#36
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what do you guys think of this guy's tone?

decent but he's using an MG

i didn't have to look, i knew from earlier experiences

Quote by 311ZOSOVHJH
I would leave it up as long as you can to get some more opinions, although i realize that is more work for you.

I would leave it up until it gets to the second page with several hours of no bumps.

Also, I would Edit your original post to tell people to NOT read everyone elses comments or you may end up with a bunch of bandwagoning that will only skew the results.

ok.


done

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SS I guess.

I must say I really dislike the tone in all of these clips

yeah, but purevolume degraded the audio quality a lot.
Last edited by The red Strat. at Jul 8, 2008,
#37
the results so far:

amp 1:
14 people say SS, 0 say tube.

amp 2:
14 people say SS, 0 say tube.

amp 3:
8 people say SS, 6 say tube.

amp 4:
3 people say SS, 11 say tube.

amp 5:
12 say SS, 2 say tube.

again, please don't look at this to base your opinion on. bandwagoning won't get us anywhere.


i'll put this into a graph as promised, but not yet.
#38
Here goes..

Amp 1 - pretty nice, but - ss

Amp 2 - didn't like, sounded like a spider but obviously it itsn't the spider valve because it said there were no hybrid modellers in the original post which I read properly- ss

Amp 3 - nice tone, tube

Amp 4 - that was hard, sounded good but I think it's ss, not a Spider valve because I read the original post - ss

Amp 5 - decided it was tube within 2 seconds, nice. tube

I'm really intrigued to see how this pans out, I really hope I've not got them all wrong
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#39
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Here goes..

Amp 1 - pretty nice, but - ss
Amp 2 - didn't like, sounded like a spider- ss
Amp 3 - nice tone, tube
Amp 4 - that was hard, sounded good but I think it's ss, maybe a Spider valve?
Amp 5 - decided it was tube within 2 seconds, nice.

I'm really intrigued to see how this pans out, I really hope I've not got them all wrong

i said in the OP that there weren't any hybrids or tube modelers like the spider valve recorded

besides, the spider valve is tube, so why do you think it"s one when you just said you think it's SS

so what is 4 according to you, SS or tube ?
Last edited by The red Strat. at Jul 8, 2008,
#40
I still class the Spider Valve as SS

I'll edit my original post accordingly....
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