#1
As everyone knows, I am poor at the moment and am forced to continue with my Frontman (UGH!) and/or my dad's Ampeg Gemini from '68 (There is a God!!!!).


Anyway, I am wanting to get a REAL Fender amp. I was thinking maybe a Twin Reverb or something along those lines.

There's a few pit-falls though.

It's too heavy to be carting to coffee shop gigs and small bars (which is what I will mostly be playing).

It's too much wattage. The places I will be playing will only require around 15-50W TOPS. And even then, I would only probably crank it halfway at MOST (I dont like loud noise). Besides if it's too quite, I can always mic it.


I was thinking if it had the following:

- 35 to 40 lbs. (this should be first priority, since I have week arms)
- 1x12"
- 15 to 40W
- Only 4 or 5 tubes (not 7 like the Princeton)
- tubes not directly exposed (see back of Crate V-series to see what I mean)
- $600 to $800


^ This is also going to be my "ONCE AND FOR ALL"-amp (only amp I'll ever need).

I know y'all cant decide tone for me, but I just need help finding Fender amps that fit the above specs.
#2
Sounds like you want a deluxe reverb. 22 watts. Has more tubes than you want, but 2 are trem and reverb tubes and one is a rectifier tube so they don't need to be messed with much.
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#3
Deluxe reverb FTW!
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#5
The Deluxe Reverb seems to fit.

Except with the FX (trem and reverb), do they need to be replaced/biased regularly? or only when they go out?

Also is it closed back the way the Crate V-series are?

tube complement?


Also $950 is pretty steep. But I guess when I'm this finicky, it serves me right.

Also after I graduate, I'll have enough $. I'm going into electronics maintenance (spelling?)

So after my first 2 or 3 paychecks, $ rolls in...
#6
You might like the Deluxe Reverb. The Blues Junior is also really good even though everyone on here recommends it all the time. I've played with it in bars and it's the perfect loudness (grammar check) to turn up and get some sweet power amp distortion without killing your ears. Plus if you're practicing at home it has a master volume so you can turn up the preamp and turn down the power amp to get it to distort at lower volumes. You might need to mic it if you have a heavy handed drummer or a louder-ish venue.

....he replied 12 hours later....

EDIT: I forgot to rant about the Deluxe Reverb. It's a much cleaner amp. The reverb can get somewhat deeper than the reverb on the Blues Junior (but Fender reverbs are already REAAAAALLLLY deep as is, so you might not need too much). The overdrive is a little different, I can't really describe it in words. If anything I would have to say that the Blues Junior sounds a bit more "raw" than the DR. I don't use "raw" in a negative way. Think SRV when you hear Blues Juniors overdrive.
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#7
So, if the Blues Jr. is SRV-type OD, then the Deluxe Reverb should be a softer, natural, OD (like a Jefferson Airplane), right?
#8
Check out the new Princeton Revern Reissue, you might like the price tag more than the DRRI.

I owned the Deluxe Reverb for a while and if your playing by yourself, your not going to get much OD unless your cranking it more than it needs to be cranked. But in a band setting, it just couldnt sit in the mix.
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#9
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Check out the new Princeton Revern Reissue, you might like the price tag more than the DRRI.

I owned the Deluxe Reverb for a while and if your playing by yourself, your not going to get much OD unless your cranking it more than it needs to be cranked. But in a band setting, it just couldnt sit in the mix.


I cant say enough good things about the Princeton Reverb

If the new one is anything like the oldschool one, than it's going to have awesome cleans, and some really buttery sort of, late 60s rock power amp distortion (sort of creamish)
#10
Quote by igotabcrich32
Check out the new Princeton Revern Reissue, you might like the price tag more than the DRRI.

I owned the Deluxe Reverb for a while and if your playing by yourself, your not going to get much OD unless your cranking it more than it needs to be cranked. But in a band setting, it just couldnt sit in the mix.



what do you mean "couldnt sit in the mix"? could you explain?

also would my Epiphone Casino sound better through either of these than in my Ampeg? (Just personal guess)?
#11
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what do you mean "couldnt sit in the mix"? could you explain?

also would my Epiphone Casino sound better through either of these than in my Ampeg? (Just personal guess)?


You'd have to plug it in and decide... tone is subjective... My guess would be, if you want those juicy suculant fender cleans, than yes
#12
UGH! I was just at GC earlier today. I shouldda tried one. Oh well, there's always tommorow. Next time for sure. I'll report back. Thanks again guys.
#13
I have a DR reissue, and I really like it. I got mine around the same time as igotabcrich, so we discussed it a lot.

My experience was much more pleasant than his. It was more than loud enough for me, but because the wattage is so low I was getting a good tone.

The only problem I've had with it is this. All my fuzz/ods sound like crap on the reverb channel. The tone I was getting out of my Graphic Fuzz was decent at best, and I was ready to sell my Muff'n. BUT once I plugged it into the normal channel everything sounded amazing.
#15
I recommend trying out the blues jr and consider a speaker and tube swap. Its a really nice amp.
#16
An old fender tonemaster?
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#17
The DRRI would be good, I think. Honestly, though, it sounds like your dad's amp should be right up your alley.
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#19
Look at the Deluxe Reverb and the new Fender Princeton Reverb reissue which is coming out shortly, both sound pretty good and they will suit your needs fine. Truth be told i've never needed more than a 15w amp for any of the gigs i've done so far, one of those being in a basketball hall with about 800-1000 people in there, so....
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#20
^Yep. I played a crowded gym with a drummer, bassist, and second guitarist once, and my 50 watt amp was probably set around 3 or so on the volume for my clean channel.
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#21
Same, if it was any louder the mix just turned into a wall of horrific noise with all the natural reverb... I think some people on here sometimes underestimate how loud these amps can be at times.
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#22
Yeah, I know when you think 15 watts, it sounds like a small number, but a 15 watt tube amp can usually handle anything up to a full size, full volume band.
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#23
Pretty much, yeah. I know I used to have band practices with my Valve Junior combo quite comfortably. Goes to show 5w valve amps aren't really home practice amps
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#24
http://dallas.craigslist.org/msg/727589452.html This guy has a few Vibro Champs for $250-350. Just a thought if you would consider used.

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Fender-65-Princeton-Reverb-15W-1x10-Tube-Guitar-Combo-Amp?sku=482325 Looks like it's out.

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Fender-Custom-Vibrolux-ReverbAmp-Combo?sku=480513 And I had to throw this out there too.

Edit: Waits out long pause while Ryan and Kyle drool over the new Princeton... JK
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#25
I did not realize the new Princeton was going to be that expensive...

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#26
It's not that bad a price, and keep in mind Princetons do sound gorgeous.
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#27
To much for me to spend on what would essentially be a practice amp, lol. If i ever get around to buying one, i'll probably just get a silverface champ, anyway...
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#28
Ryan your sig is awesome, I just noticed it, hey it's early here. I don't think the price it that bad either, I honestly expected worse considering it's Fender.
#29
Yeah, I just didn't really think it through. It's $50 cheaper than the DRRI. It was all wishful thinking on my part, really.
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#30
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Ryan your sig is awesome, I just noticed it, hey it's early here. I don't think the price it that bad either, I honestly expected worse considering it's Fender.
Who's Ryan? Hahaha.

yeah it'll probably cost a lot over here, they will probably charge something in the region of £600 for it no doubt.
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#31
Wait no, I just checked GAK and it's £720 ($1440 pretty much) O_O
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#32
Yeah, that sig is truth, except most of the time JJ's are worth it in the power section.
I want to try out that princeton just for the heck of it.
The only other truly small fender amp i've played lately was their little recording amp thing (with the attenuator and stuff like that). I hated it big-time.
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#33
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Wait no, I just checked GAK and it's £720 ($1440 pretty much) O_O
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#34
It's not much more in USD than it is in Euros.
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#35
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Yeah, that sig is truth, except most of the time JJ's are worth it in the power section.
I want to try out that princeton just for the heck of it.
The only other truly small fender amp i've played lately was their little recording amp thing (with the attenuator and stuff like that). I hated it big-time.
Oh not saying they're bad, just other stuff exists that is equally as good if not better in a lot of cases.
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#36
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But, Europeans can get laneys and cornfords for cheaper

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#37
But I want Mojo kits, it's ridiculous the UK shipping fees. The 3 amps I want - a blackface-style clean Fender, a tweed-twin style 50w Fender and a Mesa Stiletto are all so much cheaper in the States.
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#38
Guess you're right, but we're both better off than the Aussies when it comes to gear
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#39
True. And that at least makes me happy
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