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sum_ugly_man
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Traynors are Canada's hidden gems. They are the poor man's treasure containing amazing tone, with an amazing price. With the quality build (everything is made in North America), the best warranty EVER (2 years, transferable even if you break it), and lately they have recieved some long deserved recognition, or atleast around these boards.


Personally, I own a YCV 50 blue, and it is by far the best sounding british voiced, tube amplifier for under 1,000. Kool98769 mentioned that he owned a Marshall DSL401 tube combo, and the YCV 50 (which he now owns) beat it completely. They are simply, THE solution for a reliable, nice sounding gig-able amps. Some of the YCV's are loaded with quality celestion speakers, and non-sovtek tubes, with tolex that is as tough as Bubba, at the local prison. Oh, did i mention? CHICKENHEAD KNOBS. That's right, about time an amp maker brought the consumer what the consumer wants.


Before I got my Baby Blue, I tried out many other amps in the same pricerange: The Mesa-Boogie F-50, The Peavey Classic 50 and the 50 watt Valveking, and the Fender Hot Rod Deville. They are all great amps, but the Mesa-Boogie just didnt have the sparkly cleans that i was looking for, the classic 50 had tweed, but it, like the Fender just didn't have big enough balls for me and the valveking...well, it was as sterile as my english teacher.


However, the tranyor YCV 50 blue had just what i needed. Very large bass, non sovtek stock tubes, a metal AND cloth grille in front of the speaker so my brother wouldn't manage to throw something through my speaker cone. Loaded with a vintage 30, and the fact that it is a combo amp gave me the creamy mids that i wanted, the power tube saturation at a descent volume level, and some very smooth preamp gain for my lead playing. Also, it came with an all metal footswitch, if you manage to break it, you need to either lose some weight, or you've been throwing it at too many walls. It was all i could ever ask for in an amplifier.

This thread is dedicated to this amazing brand, post away.


Special thanks to Kool98769 for helping me make this thread, and correcting my poor English, and to slatsmania for telling me of this amazing brand along with all the good folks from the Traynor syndicate.
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I concour, sum_ugly_man!

One thing we forgot to mention is the traynor group. And feel free to ask questions in here, and hopefully we can awnser them.
http://groups.ultimate-guitar.com/traynor/
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sum_ugly_man
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Oh yeah, I forgot about that one, I'm currently working on some pics of baby blue
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heyoo

i got the ycs-50.
which i like, but at times, can sound alittle brittle. Ive heard this isnt common with these amps, so im thinking its cold biasing.

at its best though, it is my DREAM tone. So yeah, on the good days i love it.
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Currently playing a Peavey Classic, but man oh man, I played a Traynoy YCV50 Blue the other day, and now, I'm kinda wishing I had gotten that instead.

But I'm mostly surprised that there hasn't been a Traynor thread before.
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there has actually, but I dunno what happened to it. It had some size though.
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sum_ugly_man
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Quote by HeartInACage
heyoo

i got the ycs-50.
which i like, but at times, can sound alittle brittle. Ive heard this isnt common with these amps, so im thinking its cold biasing.

at its best though, it is my DREAM tone. So yeah, on the good days i love it.



The YCS series isn't self biasing?
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i just got the ycs50 like last week.
loving this thing. pics later maybe.
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sum_ugly_man
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Quote by weetadsftw
i just got the ycs50 like last week.
loving this thing. pics later maybe.



yes please and you just reminded me that I was to take pics of my baby blue...curse you A.D.D.
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I teach English

But I have to agree that I absolutely love my Traynor. I'm throwing a curveball here; I have the YBA200 tube bass amp, and it has to be the best deal in town for a tube bass amp. Of course I playthe sweetest clean guitar through that bad boy pretty often too.

I can't wait till it's time for a tube change and I get some tubes with even more clean headroom. Cleans so thick you can swim in them.
sum_ugly_man
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Cleans so thick you can swim in them.


But...but...I can't swim

Do you have any clips of that beast man?
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The blue is a bad ass amp. My f-30 just barley beat it out on sound and looks IMO. My F-30 is forest green with a tan wicker grill, it's basically puresex.
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sum_ugly_man
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Quote by Kevin Saale
The blue is a bad ass amp. My f-30 just barley beat it out on sound and looks IMO. My F-30 is forest green with a tan wicker grill, it's basically puresex.


I've tried out the f-50(I think so, I can't remember correctly), and I have yet to try the f-30. I didn't really like the f-50 too much, cleans weren't as sparkly. the gain channel was amazing though, but I can't live with halfway decent cleans.
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Quote by sum_ugly_man
The YCS series isn't self biasing?

I think the circuit in YCV's, for the record, isn't exactly self-biasing, it's more so that power tubes don't need to be matched. Reincaster runs two different 6L6's in his YCV40.

Hurrah for Traynor!

BTW, in the Traynor Syndicate group, I've made a call to arms for Traynor clips. I've been linking clips from kool3040921840's profile and yours, sum_ugly_man. There's no decent clips of the YCV40 or YCV50 on Youtube or anything, adn the ones on Traynor's site (I haven't listened to them) are kinda awful.
So anything YCV owners can contribute is awesome.
I'd be recording more and pointing towards my clips, but for one thing, My Traynor is anything but stock, and I'm still fixing up my recording setup. Got my mic, though...
sum_ugly_man
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Hmm, clips eh? I noticed that. I always wanted to continue my "traynor YCV50 BLUE custom clip" but never got around to. I might tomorrow, seeing as how I actually have a guitar with some nice pickups in them.

But the thing is, I kinda was sleep doing things again (yes...) and according to my mom, I was sitting on my chair leaning down on the Traynor and changing the knobs...creepy ****.

So yes I have to find some other good settings for my baby blue now. but for now, i shall get back to looking for me camera.
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Yeah it definitely has some incredible gain. I was playing a 72 goldtop les paul through it, and "**** ME ****S!" it was insane, just screaming ever so beautifully. On my LTD however, the pickups don't do the amp much justice. But still the amp is still amazing with pickups that aren't even worth 10 dollars.
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Guess this would be the right place to post this . How does the YCV40 compare to YCV 50? After searching around, i realised that only the YCV50 Blue gets much praise on the forums.. not much input about the other models.
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The YCV 40 and 50 have their differences, it's not just the wattage.

The 40 is somewhat more modern voiced, has a presence knob. While the 50 is more british voiced, and has a master volume knob instead of the presence knob.

They are both really ****in' loud. Personally, I find that they are both louder than you'll need them to be, and the difference isn't that much between the two if you are asking "is the 50 THAT much louder?"

I like my 50. it has the volume knob instead of the presence which can be a pain, cause it gets kinda muddy at a really low volume but you don't have to match the channel volumes every time you make a tiny adjustment. And I liked the british voicing on the amp. But let's not end it at that, the amp does changes it's voice drastically with a tube swap. Before I bought mine, I tired one out with erm, some other tubes (I'm not a tube expert) and it had a nice chugging tone to it. And EQs and ODs can be used to further control the tone of amp.

And as for the 40, I've played it in the store several times, and it was a great amp, but I had my mind set on the blue from the first time I turned the standby off and started playing.

But man, play them both side by side if possible and you'll see the difference. They are both fantastic amps and definitely worth looking into.
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Ah ok thanks for the reply. Looks like i'll need an alternative then . I live in a pretty small country and the store brought in just 1 traynor YCV40. I was looking for a british voiced all tube practise amp, but this doesn't sound like its gonna work .
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Try it out, don't take my word for it, I can't really explain it you really have to try it out.
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Good luck with your new thread venture!

Vintage Traynors are probably the best deals out there on the used market. Traynor has been building amps like tanks for a long, long time, and the stuff they were putting out on the 60's still puts out very well today.

For the record, I have a YBA-2A, which is their little tube bass head. Mine runs on EL84's (there's also a 6V6 version), and cranks 25W out of twe of them. Plugged into a 1x12 with a Jensen C12Q, it'll give Fenders selling for 3x as much a run for their money.

Also in my possession is a YVM-1, which was Traynor's early take on a PA head. It's housed the same way as their guitar and bass heads from the same era, runs on a pair of EL34's, and has four individual channels each with it's own 12AX7. I bought it to mod, but for now I'm having fun using it as a PA and clean guitar amp.

Probably the #1 consistently great, affordable amp company out there.
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Quote by guitarist151
Guess this would be the right place to post this . How does the YCV40 compare to YCV 50? After searching around, i realised that only the YCV50 Blue gets much praise on the forums.. not much input about the other models.

I have a YCV40T, and I've gotten it to sound quite British, I think. I have KT77's in the power amp instead of the stock 6L6's, and a 5751 in the V1 of the preamp. This really makes it snarl, with a great low-mid growl.
It just depends on what kind of work you're willing to do.
The YCV50 gets a lot of praise because a lot of people are looking for Marshall tones...and that's what it's good at, in its stock form.

You can hear some crappily recorded clips in my profile, if you want.
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Some pics, I posted a clip too. I was getting a mean growl out of the amp but my amp decided to be all "yeah **** you Robert, I'm not gonna pick up the intense growl and make everything sound low quality", curse you **** mic.
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I'm very interested in the Custom Special Head, how is it?
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So i was in the music store today trying out a YCV 50 BLUEE! and thought jesus christ canada's amazing this is why i love being born and raised a proud canadian i mean IT HONESTLY makes up for the horrors that canada has unleashed upon the world like... Celine Dion and whatnot,

anyways the distortion sound was pretty good, and i wish i had've had the chance to add an OD pedal in front to give it an extra kick... so I rely on you,

does an OD pedal bring it up to the metal tones of the gods?
sum_ugly_man
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^ forsaken, recommend an OD perhaps? I love the Blue no doubt, but sometimes I want something a bit tighter. The Boost button gives some immense gain, but I have little control over it, so I was thinking an OD pedal will be of much help, and an EQ as well.

Btw, I made a clip just for you
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An EQ makes a WORLD of difference.

As for what OD, it depends. I'm a big fan of keeping your normal tone, and just boosting your gain, so something like a BBE Boosta Grande would be perfect for that, on the slightly less transparent side, an EHX LPB would be a good move.

If you want somewhat of a difference in your tone, a Tubescreamer type might be what you want. the Maxon 808 is a great pedal, so is the Ibanez TS9. For a TS-type circuit with less of a mid-hump try the BBE Green Screamer.
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Quote by forsaknazrael
Cool. Some excellent and middy OD clips would be great. I think the YCV50 is the best production line Marshall voiced amp under a 1000 bucks, so anything that showcases that would be greatly appreciated.



I've got plenty of clips.....
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Just listened to the clip! Best YCV50 clip I've heard yet (no offense meant, kool840931284092. )! You are the MAN!



Really? I hate what my mic did to my tone, took away the growl of the amp

Oh we kind of just ignored the guy who asked about the Custom Special...

Dude, I asked my friend who owns it, seeing as how I have little experience with it, he said

"It's a great amp, I'm abusing one currently, I used it at a show two weeks back, it cut through everything perfectly."

And then i asked about the voicing and he told he that there is a switch that let's you choose from British to modern. I did not know that.
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According to my friend, it is a godsend. keep in mind, this kid has all the Traynor models, his dad is the lead engineer(shush I didn't tell you that)
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Quote by forsaknazrael
I think the circuit in YCV's, for the record, isn't exactly self-biasing, it's more so that power tubes don't need to be matched. Reincaster runs two different 6L6's in his YCV40.

Hurrah for Traynor!

BTW, in the Traynor Syndicate group, I've made a call to arms for Traynor clips. I've been linking clips from kool3040921840's profile and yours, sum_ugly_man. There's no decent clips of the YCV40 or YCV50 on Youtube or anything, adn the ones on Traynor's site (I haven't listened to them) are kinda awful.
So anything YCV owners can contribute is awesome.
I'd be recording more and pointing towards my clips, but for one thing, My Traynor is anything but stock, and I'm still fixing up my recording setup. Got my mic, though...



Sorry man, I meant of this post of yours, haha.
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Anyone got any good clean settings? I need to spend some more time with the humbuckers through the clean channel, my pickups make the cleans really muddy, pisses me off cause with my friend's uncle's goldtop the cleans are so sparkly
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lol, damn that presence knob of yours, sure comes in handy while playing with medium amount of volume eh? the blue gets really muddy till like 50-60% of the volume and then I need to adjust my treble cause of the sparkle sparkle lol.