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#1
So what is your opinion on omnivores vs. vegetarianism.

A vegetarian I am arguing with thinks that meat is killing our planet and she is telling me that I am a terrible person for hurting animals :\
Last edited by gu1tarman at Jul 10, 2008,
#3
You don't need to eat meat to live healthily if you have a well balanced diet.
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#5
Ignore her.

Both a vegetarian and an omnivorous diet can be healthy, but a balanced omnivorous diet is the best, as some nutrients in a vegetarian diet, although high in content, are not taken up by the body as they are found in slightly different forms.
#6
Is she a 12 years old pseudo vegetarian who still hugs her little pink ponies?
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Is she a 12 years old pseudo vegetarian who still hugs her little pink ponies?



Actually 14 years old
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Can you guys please help me out and prove that you NEED meat to live HEALTHILY.

She thinks that meat is killing our planet and she is telling me that I am a terrible person for hurting animals :\


Bite her.
Or tell her she's a horrible person for eating the animals' food.
Or just ignore her?
#10
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Glue meat to your face.


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Tell the chick that Peta is the work of the devil!!

And tell her she's destroying the nature more by eating away all the plants. The animals won't have any food to eat!!
#11
you don't need meat to live healthily, the nutrients, protein etc in meat which we require for a balanced diet can be obtained from other sources.
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#12
vegetarians are incompetent flaming queers don't listen to any of them keep slaying wild animals its good for you its good for me and its good for the environment

but honestly nobody cares if vegetarians don't eat meat, they aren't helping any causes, people are going to continue to hunt, sell meat, process meat, and eat meat
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#13
Well she's dumb. But you are too.

You don't need meat to survive, anyone can survive and be healthy off of greens.

Most people these days are veggies because they think animal cruelty is ridiculous and needs to be changed. Which is true, some of the slaughterhouses for KFC and MickyD's are just absolutely terrible. You'll never want to eat there again if you watch how they kill their animals. The lives of KFC's chicken are lived entirely in cages, and their leg muscles are so underdeveloped that they cannot lift themselves up and walk.

The difference from us to them, is that I acknowledge that I am not going to make any difference whatsoever by not eating meat. Someone else will eat the meat that I don't.

That, and I like the taste of meat.

EDIT: To all you veggitarian haters out there, get a grip. They have a good point. Why don't you go look up some slaughterhouse videos.
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#14
You dont need meat but animals have been eating each other since the beginning of time, dont nag your friend to eat meat though


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you don't need meat to live healthily, the nutrients, protein etc in meat which we require for a balanced diet can be obtained from other sources.


Just because you get in the diet doesn't mean the vegetarian has those same nutrients taken in at the cellular level. Examples are vitamins A,D,K and in particular iron and phosphorous.
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You don't need to eat meat to live healthily if you have a well balanced diet.



But you need meat as part of a well balanced diet. Meat contains proteins that help repair cells and help body growth, that's why being a vegetarian exclusively could stunt your growth during your teenage years. Furthermore meat is needed to have proper muscle growth and it also helps with skin complexion and tone.
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#18
Tell her she's a disgrace for forcing her ideologies on you, which she is.

Bloody hippies are always pushing their views.
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Glue meat to your face.

Also, eat what you like, and let her eat what she likes. I know plenty of vegetarians, and they're not dead.

Except Hitler. He was a veggie, and he's dead. Bad example there.


There's the reasoning you give her. Say ANYTHING is like Hitler and people stop.
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But you need meat as part of a well balanced diet. Meat contains proteins that help repair cells and help body growth, that's why being a vegetarian exclusively could stunt your growth during your teenage years. Furthermore meat is needed to have proper muscle growth and it also helps with skin complexion and tone.


Oh brother...

What, are you going to use that in an argument against a veggie? Your face is going to break out if you don't eat meat? Since when have teenage girls been worried about having too small of bodies?

Seriously, read my post thats like 6 or 7 up.
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Tell her to eat your dick; that will teach her to like meat

its a win/win!

what if she insists on using a knife and fork?
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#23
well are YOU personally killing the animals?

no, therefore you aren't hurting them

the animals dead
wasting it would be worse
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Bite her.
Or tell her she's a horrible person for eating the animals' food.
Or just ignore her?

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#26
Meat contains certain amino acids the human body needs to function. Nuts and other plants don't contain all the amino acids. Also meat is an incredibly good source of protein if it's lean meat.

Tell your vegetarian friend that she can be a vegetarian if she wants, but don't try to push her agenda onto you and say that her lifestyle is better than yours.

To be honest this sounds like an ego thing.
The whole I am holier than thou kind of thing.
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Well she's dumb. But you are too.

You don't need meat to survive, anyone can survive and be healthy off of greens.

Most people these days are veggies because they think animal cruelty is ridiculous and needs to be changed. Which is true, some of the slaughterhouses for KFC and MickyD's are just absolutely terrible. You'll never want to eat there again if you watch how they kill their animals. The lives of KFC's chicken are lived entirely in cages, and their leg muscles are so underdeveloped that they cannot lift themselves up and walk.

The difference from us to them, is that I acknowledge that I am not going to make any difference whatsoever by not eating meat. Someone else will eat the meat that I don't.

That, and I like the taste of meat.

EDIT: To all you veggitarian haters out there, get a grip. They have a good point. Why don't you go look up some slaughterhouse videos.


What if I'm so "METAL!!!!!!!11" that I get off to those videos?
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well to put it simply

do you see vegans dying of malnutrition?

proper vegans i mean

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you know, cows contribute, like 60% to global warming..


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But you need meat as part of a well balanced diet. Meat contains proteins that help repair cells and help body growth, that's why being a vegetarian exclusively could stunt your growth during your teenage years. Furthermore meat is needed to have proper muscle growth and it also helps with skin complexion and tone.


Meat is absolutely not required for proper muscle growth. Meat is an awesome source of protein, but its quite possible to get adequate protein from eggs/beans/whey protein shakes/bars. I'm vegetarian for religious reasons (Hinduism). Quite frankly, why do you guys care whether someone else eats meat or not? It doesn't make a spot of difference in your own life.
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Tell her to eat your dick; that will teach her to like meat

its a win/win!


+1

and if that doesn't work, she is probably gay. In which case you will learn something new about your friend.

Seriously though, haven't we had this debate enough on UG.

I think we should start an Official thread on the subject matter.
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#34
tell her that meat is a great source of protein

as far as being a terrible person goes; ask her if she cares as much about the immigrants, and their rights and quality of life, who pick the vegetables that she eats as she does about the animals that you eat. Because anyone who cares more about animals than humans is a terrible person, at least in my eyes.
#35
i have an uncle and his vegitarian lifestyle is leading to his eminent decay and destruction he has developed dimensia( sp?) and all sorts of health issues and he is on a downward slope all he eats is beans plants veggies and wheat grass its horrible...
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Oh brother...

What, are you going to use that in an argument against a veggie? Your face is going to break out if you don't eat meat? Since when have teenage girls been worried about having too small of bodies?

Seriously, read my post thats like 6 or 7 up.



Oh yeah lol I just gave general reasons but I completely forgot that it was a girl he was convincing.
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#38
Quote by Minkaro
Glue meat to your face.

Also, eat what you like, and let her eat what she likes. I know plenty of vegetarians, and they're not dead.

Except Hitler. He was a veggie, and he's dead. Bad example there.



Yeah, if he had eaten meat he wouldn't have commited suicide, easy conclusion there.


Just tell her that she is missing the greatest food sensation ever and that vegetarians are totally unnatural if you really wanna push it and that being a vegetarian is only a sign that we are wealthy enough to be picky assholes.

But only if you want to push it.
#39
arent plants living? so there kinda killing too...
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Well she's dumb. But you are too.

You don't need meat to survive, anyone can survive and be healthy off of greens.

Most people these days are veggies because they think animal cruelty is ridiculous and needs to be changed. Which is true, some of the slaughterhouses for KFC and MickyD's are just absolutely terrible. You'll never want to eat there again if you watch how they kill their animals. The lives of KFC's chicken are lived entirely in cages, and their leg muscles are so underdeveloped that they cannot lift themselves up and walk.

The difference from us to them, is that I acknowledge that I am not going to make any difference whatsoever by not eating meat. Someone else will eat the meat that I don't.

That, and I like the taste of meat.

EDIT: To all you veggitarian haters out there, get a grip. They have a good point. Why don't you go look up some slaughterhouse videos.


only intelligent post in the thread! congrats slinkyblue. however a balanced vegetarian diet is STILL healthier than a balanced omnivore diet. vegetarians tend to have better immune systems, suffer less depression and have a lower risk of diabetes.

yes, i am vegetarian. no, i dont think its wrong to eat meat. PETA and all of its drones can go f-k themselves.
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