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We were at Guitar Center the other day and I was playing on a Les Paul, and he just picked up a strat and just strummed open strings and thought he can just say it sounded good.

Thing is, is there a way I can show him how technical the guitar can be? My friend is one of those pop-punk drummers and such.

Anyway..
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#4
Ask him how many different sounds he can make with his drums, then play a single scale...drums are a very rudimentary instrument, making them sound good however is not...it isn't fair to compare but guitar is way more technical and theory based
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Ask him how many different sounds he can make with his drums, then play a single scale...drums are a very rudimentary instrument, making them sound good however is not...it isn't fair to compare but guitar is way more technical and theory based



but then if you wanna be insane drummer you have to be pretty fit, but with guitar you could be a fat waste of space
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#7
well, if he's playing open strings and he thinks it sounds good, he's a dumb**** anyway. just go sit down at a drum kit and beat the sh*t out of the crash and the snare, and tell him it sounds good.
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#9
truthfully, guitar is easier to pick up. drums, you gotta be coordinated and all that mess.
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#10
You need rhythm and counting in guitar as much as a drummer does.

You also need melody coming from knowledge (theory)
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but then if you wanna be insane drummer you have to be pretty fit, but with guitar you could be a fat waste of space



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#12
clearly 15 year old **** knockers who are bickering over dominant status.

respect your fellow musicians and grow the **** up.
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but then if you wanna be insane drummer you have to be pretty fit, but with guitar you could be a fat waste of space

you have to have a lot of stamina but not strength necessarily. i have friends who are great drummers that are pretty scrawny.
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i hate mother****ers who give people **** just because they dont play the same instruments. i love the guys in my band and i love what they do. its a respect issue...c0cksuckers
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clearly 15 year old **** knockers who are bickering over dominant status.

respect your fellow musicians and grow the **** up.


Ok.

1. Older than 15
2. I wasn't being a f*cking prick about it.. I respect him, but just didn't like the way he was putting down guitarists.

Sorry, again.. I didn't mean it in that way. And I wasn't saying drums were easier or anything either.
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#18
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I'm sorry but I play guitar and drums and I must agree with your friend that drums are harder!

Again, never said drums were easier haha. I agree they are hard.
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#19
With guitar I find that sometimes I have to force myself to play something more specified. With drums, the more creative, the better.

With drums, there really are no right and wrongs, with guitar, a bad note sounds like a bad note.

That being said, I would say drums are harder than guitar, although the only knowlege you need to know is timing, guitarists must learn timing, scales, chords, and all that stuff.
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truthfully, guitar is easier to pick up. drums, you gotta be coordinated and all that mess.


+1.
But once you can play drums, that's it. No theory, etc, and you can't write an infinite amount of melodies, or harmonies, or really nice lead work.
But they are both quite difficult for a beginner to master.
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#21
i dont get why people compare instruments like this!!
any instrument is the same difficulty unless you want to master it.
i play both guitar and drums and think guitar is harder because i have been playing for less time but if i started at the same time i am sure i would be at equal skill...
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i dont get why people compare instruments like this!!
any instrument is the same difficulty unless you want to master it.
i play both guitar and drums and think guitar is harder because i have been playing for less time but if i started at the same time i am sure i would be at equal skill...



So there are equivalently hard techniques with two instruments?

Some techniques are harder to some than others, both instruments are unique and require their own area of skill and talent to pick up.
#23
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Again, never said drums were easier haha. I agree they are hard.

He knows you didn't. But your friend said drums were harder and he was agreeing with him.
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#24
They're equal. Guitar is harder and takes longer to get to an average playing level, but drums takes much longer and harder to get to a truly good, professional master level. It can also be argued that drumming is more physically taxing than guitar playing is.
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#25
if he's a pop-punk drummer as you say then he's stupid to say that. with a few exceptions, its real simple stuff, just fast. That being said, most pop-punk guitar is piss to play. Pop-punk is just not a very technical genre in most cases.
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#27
guitar takes practice, timing and an ear.

drums require coordination and stamina. not to mention timing. it also requires a whole lot more practice than guitar playing.

you cannot compare apples and oranges.
#28
drums and guitar require talent in different areas, for some poeple drums will be easier to learn and for others guitar will be easier for them.
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#29
you can learn all the basic drum beats good in a day if you wanted to (if you're at least mildly coordinated and have a sense of rhythm). Just do that then tell him to learn the basics of guitar in one day
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#30
Guys it's clear..

It's easier to play guitar if someone talks about Green Day and it's more difficult to play drums talking about Dream Theater. It's about music tastes and knowledge! You just can't choose something as easier from something completely different.
#31
Physiologically speaking the drums are a significantly harder instrument to learn than the guitar. Simply put, playing the drums puts more parts of your body at work than the guitar does. The guitar is known for being, by design, one of the easiest instruments to pick up; if you think the guitar is a hard instrument to play, try playing the french horn.
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#32
more parts of your body. drummers use two arms, two legs and that’s about it. That’s 4 body parts. But guitarists use 4 or 5 fingers for chords and solos on left hand only. Now for right hand you would use 2 for holding a pick or tapping and you would use all 5 for finger-picking. And take a wah effect and you would use a leg for that. Now add all the theory you have to learn before you can call yourself a proper guitarist.

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#33
Guitarists generally have to learn about as much of rhythmic theory as drummers do about melodic theory. Drummers have to know how to play over chord changes even if they can't define what those chord changes are. Tell me Mobilex, how up on polyrhythms are you? If I asked you to play five over four, could you? Seven over four? Nine over four? Seven over five? Nine over six? Five over six? What can you tell me about beat stresses? 12/8 swing? Cut time, double time, eighth = eighth; hell, if you can tell me about them, even if you can't, can you play them?
Co-ordinating one's fingers to act in harmony is a skill practically required for human life; it's basic and evolutionary in nature. Co-ordinating two related body parts (IE, co-ordinating one's left and right hand -- a hand is one limb, not five) is simple to do, it's a skill you learn when you're two. Co-ordinating your feet and your hands is an entirely different process and involves completely different parts of the brain that don't get a lot of work in every day life. That's why people who have drummed for a year, two years, three still can't do anything fancy or particularly flashy. Strum a difficult strumming pattern to a metronome while singing on the beat and tell me how that goes.
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#34
well, i find drumming harder than i ever found guitar when learning. so for me, drums are harder.
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#37
I think drums are harder simply b/c I got shat coordination for drums -_-.
#38
Its hard to sound bad on Drums, my opinion, if someone has any experince of drums they can play, they can also just pick up and play, it takes a good month to two months to even start playing Guitar after you pick it up because of the fact it makes your fingers hurt.
#39
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Its hard to sound bad on Drums, my opinion, if someone has any experince of drums they can play, they can also just pick up and play, it takes a good month to two months to even start playing Guitar after you pick it up because of the fact it makes your fingers hurt.

you also get much worse cuts and blisters from drum sticks. and its harder to co-ordinate all 4 limbs. its not just hitting stuff.

i think that people who want to learn drums should spend a few months crawling around like babies before they start playing to train themselves to co-ordinate their arms and legs better
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#40
Quote by md41
We were at Guitar Center the other day and I was playing on a Les Paul, and he just picked up a strat and just strummed open strings and thought he can just say it sounded good.

Thing is, is there a way I can show him how technical the guitar can be? My friend is one of those pop-punk drummers and such.

Anyway..

well guitar being a melodic instrument, it is deffinatly complicated. drums dont have melodies and all the theory behind the notes like guitars do. not to say drums are easy and have no theory, but its just not the same.

id say both can be hard. its really apples and oranges imo. if it were two melodic instruments like piano and guitar, then it would be a little easier to compare but drums dont play melodies. one might say guitar is more complicated theory wise because its melodic, but whether or not its easier to learn is really up to who ever is playing.
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