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#1
I LOVE Randy Rhoads. As much as these Polka Dot V's are a pain in the butt to make, the clients who order them are some of the nicest people I've ever met. To be able to discuss ideas, music, and stories with a bunch of people who are just as nerdy about RR as I am, is cool as hell.

This thread is going to cover the building of 14-15 guitars, so hang in there... Some of these are coming to the USA with me in three weeks. Some are staying behind. One, will be going with me to meet Randy's family, and, quiet possibly a party Ive been invited to with an ex Ozzy Osbourne band member. I'll tell you more about that after it's happened.

Brazilian Mahogany body wings


The necks: Laminated rock maple (three piece) with scarf jointed headstocks. Randy's original built by Karl Sandoval was a set neck, built from a Danelectro neck, and a Mighty Might body. I'd rather make the body and neck myself rather than buy in parts!

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#2
Here are SOME of the fretboards. Randy's was Rosewood. Most of the guys selected either dark or light coloured Ebony. PS. All but two of these guitars are sold.



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Truss rods installed. The original Danelectro neck DID NOT have a truss rod. This caused all sorts of tuning, intonation, and playability issues with Randy's guitar. Kevin DuBrow has talked about this in length on the RR forum. Ive reversed the truss rod, so its accessable from the neck pickup cavity, to make it appear as though there isn't a truss rod at all.

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#5
Fitting the inlays took a long time. This was tedious work, but it had to be done.




and glued


and sanded flush

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#6


and after the inlay, they have to be tapered. The black stuff on the ground is all the ebony i routered away.

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#7
this is gonna need sound clips.
Yeah i finally got round to all this, so, what shall i put here?

*insert hillarious ego boosting qoute here*


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#9
woah *suscribes*
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#10
Fretboard glued down, and fretted


Because there are so many of these babies, Ive had to start writing all the details ON to the actual necks.
Example: Name, Location, type of trem, which end of the neck is the body end, the face, the type of headstock angle (shallow or std)the number of frets, and the size of the fret wire.


Trimmed to rough size, and ready for shaping.


Thats all for now.

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Perry Ormsby

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#11
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this is gonna need sound clips.


Just wait until you hear what we have planned

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#13
Big Randy fan, looking massivley amazing again. . . . . . . . . . . I hate you . . . . . . . . lol

Did you hand route all the the inlay or CNC? Thats an aweful lot of inlaying to do. looking wicked though.
Last edited by jscustomguitars at Jul 13, 2008,
#14
I dislike the headstock on his guitars but other wise they look f**kin amazing, I would loose my mind hand building that many of the same thing

You should get em all to colab on a song or something




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#15
I actually cheated a little with the inlays. I had them done on a CNC. Its the first time I've had inlays cut on CNC. The company that did them for me, botched them up, three times. Hundreds of dollars worth of pearl shell, ebony, rosewood, and cutters were wasted while they stuffed around trying to get it right.
In the end, they agreed to redo them, which they did, but it took months and months. Even though they redid them all, they still stuffed up more of them. Then they gave me the price, which was DOUBLE what i was quoted, and told me I needed to pay for the total time, INCLUDING their stuff ups. The shell was cut too big to fit into most of the holes, and they also managed to crack a couple fretboards.
In the end, they agreed to do another 5 for me, to make up for the mistakes. I then told another four guys they could have a V in the current batch, took their deposits, and waited for the new boards. Months went by. I went in there, and got a guarantee they'd be done within a couple weeks. I obviously need to work on these as one big group of guitars, so a deadline was important. The buggers rang me on the date of the deadline, and told me they had decided to not help me out. @#$^@#$^@((^#$^#@$!~~%#$^#&^$%______#$^@#$^@#^_!@#((&^*!!!!!!!!
I'd promised some of my clients I would have the inlays done within a couple days of that date, so I came off looking like a clown. Im still embarressed by that. This is why I hate dealing with outside contractors. Never again. They mucked me around for more than 12 months all up, and then let me down, and doubled the price.
So, I finished off what i could, and I decided to split the group into two... 21 fret guitars, and 22/24 fret versions. So, the next seven or so and half CNC, half hand cut. What you're seeing now are the 21 fretters. The 22/24 fretters will be finished when i get back from Los Angeles. The sucky thing is, most of the 22/24 fretters are for clients IN Los Angeles...

So, rough cut back of neck:


Initial shaping. Every neck shape is to suit a different players hand, so they are all different...


shaped, but needing final sanding

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#16
As usual every fucking time you build these they always look fucking brilliant.

You rock Ormsby.

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#17
Thats a massive bummer about the inlaying.

I suppose if your doing something in bulk like this its not really financially viable to do all the inlaying by hand. I HATE inlaying stuff, you gotta have way too much patience and skill to do it well. I wasnt blessed with either when it comes to inlaying!
#18
Should have refused to pay them for pulling that $hit!! Taking a little longer is fine to a degree but actually messing something up and breaking a clients work is unacceptable from the CNC company... Bastards!




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#19
Quote by ormsby guitars
Initial shaping. Every neck shape is to suit a different players hand, so they are all different...

That's some damn good service. Any 'secrets' as to what you do to make each neck individual? As in, how do you know what sort of neck to make, or do they tell you?

That inlay stuff sounds like a right fuck up. I agree with Absent Mind, I'd have put up a right fuss about paying them for that.

Nevertheless, these look like they're gonna be sweet, congratulations on doing so well for yourself. The work you put in, I'm sure you deserve it
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#21
looking awsome, those bastard cnc people haha.
i saw your randy rhoads tattoo on project guitar recently, you must love the guy haha
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#22
Quote by Absent Mind
Should have refused to pay them for pulling that $hit!! Taking a little longer is fine to a degree but actually messing something up and breaking a clients work is unacceptable from the CNC company... Bastards!


Problem is, I needed them to do amplifier front plates, car badges (I make badges for cars, sometimes), and signs for the car club i'm involved with. So, rather than just chuck a wobbly, i was kinda forced to use them. HOWEVER, i found a place that can do them again for me (if i do another run of these) for cheaper, and faster, and with a guarantee. I dont know that i'll do another run of these though, Im really much better off doing 15 of my own designs.

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Thats a massive bummer about the inlaying.

I suppose if your doing something in bulk like this its not really financially viable to do all the inlaying by hand. I HATE inlaying stuff, you gotta have way too much patience and skill to do it well. I wasnt blessed with either when it comes to inlaying!


Well, I estimated 4-6 hours for each board, from start to finish. But, 4-6 hours x 15 =

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Quote by admbwr
looking awsome, those bastard cnc people haha.
i saw your randy rhoads tattoo on project guitar recently, you must love the guy haha


Yeah man, he got me into guitar seriously, and then into custom guitars (because he had some made). From there I started researching, and thinking. Nearly fifteen years later i got the guts to give it a go.

Here is the tatt, although in this photo it's not quite finished.

Whilst in LA, we are meeting up with a certain well known tattooist, who might just be finishing it off with some extra work down the forearm We'll see though.

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#24
dude that is frikin sweet tat you got there
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#26
These are really nice guitars! Perry, I have one question for you: How much does your wood/frets/ whatever else cost you per guitar?
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#27
Perry i love that tat always have .

Go sue there asses Fucking shame about the fretboards and inlays.

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#30
Each guitar is a custom order, so they all have slightly different specs. Machineheads have been drilled, all three different types. Bridge rout cut, and headstock cut to shape.


Heels shaped. Each guitar is numbered, so we know who it's for. You'll see these numbers pop up later on too.

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#31
niceeeeeee. shame about the inlay thing man, those bastards should at least give u a discount since ur a regular customer and all.

i got a question for ya perry, what do u use to glue in the inlays and frets? people say u cant use the regular epoxy found in bunnings and stuff so i was wondering wat kind of epoxy u use, or maybe even superglue?
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niceeeeeee. shame about the inlay thing man, those bastards should at least give u a discount since ur a regular customer and all.

i got a question for ya perry, what do u use to glue in the inlays and frets? people say u cant use the regular epoxy found in bunnings and stuff so i was wondering wat kind of epoxy u use, or maybe even superglue?



I use CA glue and dust. I really should use epoxy (5 minute), because all the inlay masters recommend that.

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I use CA glue and dust. I really should use epoxy (5 minute), because all the inlay masters recommend that.



I've seen it recommended a few times to use epoxy and a few times to use CA, I personally use CA and dust because my inlay book recommended it. they said epoxy was better for lighter woods such as maple, but CA gets the job done for darker woods such as rosewood and ebony. It said that the CA leaves a line on maple (I'm assuming it means when it ages, because I've been succesful a few times already.)
#37
these things are great! is the pickup routing like the one in the american std strat?btw thats one sweet tat you got there.
Yeah i finally got round to all this, so, what shall i put here?

*insert hillarious ego boosting qoute here*


THE GAME
you just lost it
#39
they look amazing, i dunno if i could ever do that many guitars like that.
"Swim in a lake of death, eaten by crocodiles!"

Gear:
Jackson RR3
Epiphone Les Paul Custom
Stagg C 442
Randall RG100G3 plus combo
Roland Cube 30X
TS9 Tubescreamer
#40
I might be repeating what others said... but those are briliant!

By the way, how long did it take you to make them (all)?
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