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Who agrees with me that there are only a few good rock bands out on the mainstream today, its almost like there are a small handful of good bands and then there's these bands that use synthesizers so much in there music that you can't even establish a bass or guitar and they still call themselves rock, its pretty gay if you ask me, but i hear some good bands are coming out with new albums w/in the next year so it'll be ok soon, but who here agrees with me?
#2
i do agree
we should list some of our favorites so that everyone knows who the good ones are
i enjoy rev theory and year long disaster they are my two main favorites
#3
I don't care whether they're in the mainstream or not, there are plenty of great bands out there if you're willing to look for them.
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#4
I agree there are very few good rock bands on the mainstream anymore but i dont think so in the same way you do. I dont mind if a band uses synthesizers or anything in they're music because if they're using all of the techn ology available to them there really isnt a problem with that its just the way the times are at the moment, if pink floyd and led zeppelin in all of they're creativity would have had the same technology available to them they very well may have done the same thing. What my concern is that most of these rock bands try to do the same exact thing over and over and they all basically sounds like bad cover's of each other most of the time, there is a loss in musicianship and its more about who looks cool and who has the "Attitude" than who makes the best music and who is more creative. Not all bands are like this but just most of the bands currently in the mainstream, it's kind of like the 80's hair metal scene all over again in my opinion not to dis-respect the 80's because there was some good rock n roll that came out of that as well.
#5
Yes, there aren't a lot of good mainstream bands.

No, those are not the only good bands.

This topic seems to get brought up every single week now.
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#6
I love a lot of bands from the 70's and the 80's, Now i only like 3. ppl are trying too hard to be 'cool'. theyre music ends up turing into pop because of all the fake futuristic noises in the backround..........I like slash, rolling stones, tenacious d, (and a lot of other ones). the only modern band i really listen to is Fall out boy and theyre too girly......
#7
I think music today we have some amazing ****
but 90's is untoppable
just not everythings on the radio so find it yourself
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#8
There can only be a small "good" proportion of anything because "good" and "bad" are relative. There has to be bad music to make us realise what is good.
#9
I disagree, depending on what you consider mainstream. I would say there are no good bands in the mainstream. Foo Fighters are decent, but when you compare them to really great rock bands, they just don't hold up.

I don't count bands like Pearl Jam or Tool in the mainstream, since they don't do all the gay **** that would help push them towards it. It's more of a fluke when they get noticed by mainstream.
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Quote by Lukeisonfire
I think music today we have some amazing ****
but 90's is untoppable
just not everythings on the radio so find it yourself


I know I'll hate myself for asking this question, but...

How in the hell can the NINETIES be "un-toppable"? The only decade since the 50's that expressed less appreciation for good ol' rock music than the 90's was the 1970s, and that decade (in SPITE of the rise of popular disco) defined the roots of more genres and rock styles than any other in the 20th century.

The 90's was about "rock sucks, hey aren't singer-songwriters cool? let's get more of those!"

Not that I necessarily dislike much of what came out of the 90's, but for Rock music? The 90's are easily top-able.
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I know I'll hate myself for asking this question, but...

How in the hell can the NINETIES be "un-toppable"? The only decade since the 50's that expressed less appreciation for good ol' rock music than the 90's was the 1970s, and that decade (in SPITE of the rise of popular disco) defined the roots of more genres and rock styles than any other in the 20th century.

The 90's was about "rock sucks, hey aren't singer-songwriters cool? let's get more of those!"

Not that I necessarily dislike much of what came out of the 90's, but for Rock music? The 90's are easily top-able.


I agree, it's not untoppable. I personally believe the '90's worked because it was such a break from the "80's "rock"...
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I agree, it's not untoppable. I personally believe the '90's worked because it was such a break from the "80's "rock"...


That seems to be the "common wisdom" on it. My personal view is that 80's bands got too expensive to make a profit off of, and "grunge", et al were cheaper to sign and operate now that the major labels had a giant media infrastructure to market them with that had been perfected in the 80's (after developing through the 60's and 70's).

Then napster and the interbutts blew the whole thing out of the water.
#13
Well in the future only the good rock bands from this era will be remembered
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When you create music to reach a certain demographic, then you suck. Plain and simple. I think alot of bands are going to the "scene-kid" demographic and dumb 14 year old girls will buy anything she wants as long as someone like this is in the band...



When a douche like Pete Wentz becomes generic, I think it's time to find a defibrillator large enough to jump-start the entire music industry.

It's a sad, sad, hair-in-you-face world we live in.
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#15
Nowadays most mainstream bands suck. But there's some great underground stuff! Hopefully music will soon return to how it was in the good old days, when the popular bands were also amazingly talented...
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I don't count bands like Pearl Jam or Tool in the mainstream, since they don't do all the gay **** that would help push them towards it. It's more of a fluke when they get noticed by mainstream.


Yes, Pearl Jam and Tool are mainstream bands.

Pearl Jam ARE excellent, though.
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I know I'll hate myself for asking this question, but...

How in the hell can the NINETIES be "un-toppable"?

So a guy can't have an opinion now? I swear, the guys hear get more close minded every day.

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Yes, Pearl Jam and Tool are mainstream bands.

Pearl Jam ARE excellent, though.

Yes, they are mainstream. PJ seem to enjoy destroying their own fame though.
#19
Quote by redh0tchilip3pp
So a guy can't have an opinion now? I swear, the guys hear get more close minded every day.


You can have all the opinion you want. However, don't get butthurt when someone points out that your opinion rests on some pretty shaky reasoning.
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Quote by Nijyo
You can have all the opinion you want. However, don't get butthurt when someone points out that your opinion rests on some pretty shaky reasoning.

Why should he need to justify and reason that he thinks the ninetees are untoppable. Obviously, that's his favorite decade and his favorite bands come from that decade. Surely that reasoning is enough?
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#22
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Why should he need to justify and reason that he thinks the ninetees are untobbable. Obviously, that's his favorite decade and his favorite bands come from that decade. Surely that reasoning is enough?


Not really, no.

The idea that everyone's opinion is equally valid is like an insidious, airborne disease.

If I think that the world is 6000 years old, that's my opinion, sure. It's also empirically wrong.

Besides, only children get all worked up when people disagree with their opinions. Welcome to the Internet, where you don't get a gold star for effort.
#23
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I already had someone get on me for saying that Grunge is a sub genre of rock


It's not

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#24
Everything related to rock is a subgenre, I would think. What music is just "Rock"?
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Everything related to rock is a subgenre, I would think. What music is just "Rock"?




****, I mean, look at that. That's from 1955 and he's doing the "rock pose" thing already. What's old is new again
#26
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led zeppelin in all of they're creativity

I could slap someone for such a comment! Zep, while I love their music, are the most notorious thieves in the history of Rock.
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Not really, no.

The idea that everyone's opinion is equally valid is like an insidious, airborne disease.

If I think that the world is 6000 years old, that's my opinion, sure. It's also empirically wrong.

Besides, only children get all worked up when people disagree with their opinions. Welcome to the Internet, where you don't get a gold star for effort.

But we wern't arguing about how old the earth is. We where arguing about somebody having an opinion on what decade he thinks is untoppable.

A fact is something totally different to an opinion. Do I have to try and drill this point in anymore?

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But we wern't arguing about how old the earth is. We where arguing about somebody having an opinion on what decade he thinks is untoppable.

A fact is something totally different to an opinion. Do I have to try and drill this point in anymore?


Opinions are simply someone expressing the facts they've decided to pay attention to.

Had he soley stated "I like the 90's!", I have no problem. "The 90's are untoppable" implies he's got some sort of measurable scale by which the 90's can be shown to best all others. That's where the problem lay.
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I could slap someone for such a comment! Zep, while I love their music, are the most notorious thieves in the history of Rock.


I have heard the evidence and I'm not really all that convinced. They simply didn't credit anything. I have heard all the evidence, and the only thing they could be sued for was the lyrics.

The song that they "stole" Stairway from is like a 2 minute song with basically the same pattern over and over. Jimmy Page doesn't ever play the exact same thing as what's in the other song, and pretty well adds something every time through the sequence in STH, so there is really no grounds for plagiarism.

Several of the songs in that list of songs that Zep stole were

A) old blues standards that everybody was stealing from
B) songs that they properly credited and were never sued for
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Opinions are simply someone expressing the facts they've decided to pay attention to.

Had he soley stated "I like the 90's!", I have no problem. "The 90's are untoppable" implies he's got some sort of measurable scale by which the 90's can be shown to best all others. That's where the problem lay.

Implies being the key word there.
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When a douche like Pete Wentz becomes generic, I think it's time to find a defibrillator large enough to jump-start the entire music industry.

It's a sad, sad, hair-in-you-face world we live in.

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On topic, though, I don't like too many mainstream bands anymore. I like old classics (Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, Genesis, Clapton, Hendric, BB King) and some newer music (RHCP, although they've been around for almost 25 years, and Breaking Benjamin to an extent), but I can't stand bands like MCR and FOB who get fans for whining and writing unbelievably simple songs. Every time I hear one of those bands, I automatically turn on Dream Theater, Steve Hackett or early Genesis.
#34
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Who agrees with me that there are only a few good rock bands out on the mainstream today, its almost like there are a small handful of good bands and then there's these bands that use synthesizers so much in there music that you can't even establish a bass or guitar and they still call themselves rock, its pretty gay if you ask me, but i hear some good bands are coming out with new albums w/in the next year so it'll be ok soon, but who here agrees with me?


im kind of sick of people complaining about the new music scene. you want to change it? then start a band that you like. maybe on day you'll be a famous musician who loves what they do and looks forward to playing in front of ton of people who love you as opposed to playing in front of a couple people who think you suck. then maybe there will be people on message boards complaining about how they think your band sucks even though your band is great. you gotta put your self in there shoes for a second and think about what you would honestly do if you were able to be in the position they are in. then you can bitch about the music scene.
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im kind of sick of people complaining about the new music scene. you want to change it? then start a band that you like. maybe on day you'll be a famous musician who loves what they do and looks forward to playing in front of ton of people who love you as opposed to playing in front of a couple people who think you suck. then maybe there will be people on message boards complaining about how they think your band sucks even though your band is great. you gotta put your self in there shoes for a second and think about what you would honestly do if you were able to be in the position they are in. then you can bitch about the music scene.


well i do write and compose my own songs with a band, but ive changed my mind a little bit, i was at AE and they were playing alot of music videos of new bands that i never even seen or heard of and they wernt half bad, and thx for actually going back to the main topic of this thread
#36
what? most mainstream bands arent' great? just like it's always been? that's crazy!!!

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#37
Most main stream bands arent great becuz were used to hearing like classic's like(led zep, hendrix, clapton, AC/DC ect.) and the sound is changing .... and there is so much lead guitar in alot of main stream bands , and there aren't very many new main stream bands with great guitarist , like the can do the basics and thts it ... my opinion
#38
ITT: People complaining about progression in music because they're narrow-minded elitists. If you don't like something, don't listen to it. Listen to something you do like. And quit complaining.
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