#1
Why do Fender still faff around with 21 fret necks? Surely they know that no-one is going to be put out by the extra fret of a 22 fret neck? It's no big deal, I'm just wondering. I want to get a MIM Fender, but they all have 21 fret necks. Which is a bit crap.
#2
because unless your neck is PERFECTLY intonated, anything above the 20th fret sounds like ass. other than that, i have no idea, and prefer fenders that have 22 frets

edit: and have you noticed how friggin hard it is to reach something that high on a fender? its just not cool
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#3
Any reason why you need a 22-fret neck? Be a man and use a glass slide!
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#4
Use that high E, don't go high on lower strings when you can bend that little screamer. Look at some Les Paul users, or Hendrix, they probably used the highest fret on their guitar once or twice in their stuff, sure if you're one of those arpeggio lovers you can brag about it, but surely a strat's not for you. Oh an by the way, with one lesser fret the frets are larger-spaced, no big thingy exept that it puts you on the good side of the 'fret buzz natural preventing' if you like a low action setup on your guitar.

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Oh an by the way, with one lesser fret the frets are larger-spaced, no big thingy exept that it puts you on the good side of the 'fret buzz natural preventing' if you like a low action setup on your guitar.


please dont be stupid. the space in between frets does not change with the number of frets, it would only change if the scale length was changed, which is a constant 25.5" with fenders
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#7
1) I play shred on a Les Paul, so the high-fret access of a Strat is really not going to give me any challenge!
2) I intonate all my guitars really well. Intonation is not an issue for me.
3) As I understand it, the only difference between the 21 and 22 fret Fender necks, are that the 22 neck has a little overhang out of the neck pocket, which the 22nd fret sits on. The scale length of the guitar is not changed, and thus, fret spacing is not changed.

I think they should just do away with the 21 fret necks. It's really minor, but it's annoying. I would miss that one extra note. Yeah you could bend up to it if you're playing blues, but not in the middle of a shredding run. And before anyone says- yes I know Malmsteen's Strat only has 21 frets. I don't care. I still think 21 fret necks should be blasted in to the sun, never to return.
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1) I play shred on a Les Paul, so the high-fret access of a Strat is really not going to give me any challenge!
2) I intonate all my guitars really well. Intonation is not an issue for me.
3) As I understand it, the only difference between the 21 and 22 fret Fender necks, are that the 22 neck has a little overhang out of the neck pocket, which the 22nd fret sits on. The scale length of the guitar is not changed, and thus, fret spacing is not changed.

I think they should just do away with the 21 fret necks. It's really minor, but it's annoying. I would miss that one extra note. Yeah you could bend up to it if you're playing blues, but not in the middle of a shredding run. And before anyone says- yes I know Malmsteen's Strat only has 21 frets. I don't care. I still think 21 fret necks should be blasted in to the sun, never to return.


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#10
I don't know why Fender prefers 21 fret necks. My best guess is that 21 fret necks just became a tradition for the company. I know it sounds like a stupid reason to keep making all their guitar necks with 21 frets, but think about all the Fender marketing schemes. All of them swirl around tradition. That's my guess at least.
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#13
get it, then shovel out the 150 bucks for a warmoth 22 fret replacement neck if it really inhibits you that much. speaking of shred, Eddie Van Halen's guitars had 21 frets, and he had no problem shredding with one.

but seriously, i'm with you here; i wish fender would make some 22 fret strats that wouldn't cost over a grand. is the extra fret THAT much more expensive? i think it should (at the very least) be an option of 21 or 22.
#14
The reason they still use the 21 fret neck is many still want the traditional strat. Just because you dont like it and think it should be shot into the sun doesnt mean many many others do. If you gotta have the extra fret then you will need to buy a nontraditional strat.
#15
its cos fender is stupid and makes **** guitars that are completely useless for anything that sounds good
jk btw i guess its to do with the tradition thing, and most people who play fenders that i see just play open chords on the first 3 frets all the time (i hate popel like that) if you really want the 22nd fret and a strat shap LTD make a strat with 22 frets i think.
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The reason they still use the 21 fret neck is many still want the traditional strat. Just because you dont like it and think it should be shot into the sun doesnt mean many many others do. If you gotta have the extra fret then you will need to buy a nontraditional strat.


Ditto. If they're still making 21 fret guitars there's a reason.
#17
They are making both as I stated earlier. End of thread. If you don't believe me go to their web site and look up the specs on a new American Strat. Or look at this comparison.

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/document?doc_id=101934

and i won't even comment on mrbungle's bungled comment. jeez people.
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They are making both as I stated earlier. End of thread. If you don't believe me go to their web site and look up the specs on a new American Strat. Or look at this comparison.

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/document?doc_id=101934

and i won't even comment on mrbungle's bungled comment. jeez people.

he wants a mexican strat with 22 frets. as far as I'm aware it's only the american ones that have the 22 fret necks.
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#19
To give people a reason to want an American Stat. I don't know. It's never bothered me.
#20
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he wants a mexican strat with 22 frets. as far as I'm aware it's only the american ones that have the 22 fret necks.


yeah, i know he wants a MIM strat, so i suggested a used MIA.

i was just trying quell all the rants on Fender not making 22 fret strats or being stuck on only making 21 which is obviously not true.
#21
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yeah, i know he wants a MIM strat, so i suggested a used MIA.

i was just trying quell all the rants on Fender not making 22 fret strats or being stuck on only making 21 which is obviously not true.

but he didn't say that, he asked why do they still make 21 fret necks? he didn't say that they didn't make 22 fret necks nor did he say they only made 21 fret necks.
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#22
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but he didn't say that, he asked why do they still make 21 fret necks? he didn't say that they didn't make 22 fret necks nor did he say they only made 21 fret necks.


+1

I've been looking into MIM Fenders, and it seems that they all have 21 fret necks. I know the MIA has 22, but I don't want to pay a whole ton of extra money for one more fret, lol! Perhaps a second hand MIA, if I could find a good enough deal on one.