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#1
Personally I'm gonna have to go with 'kinda...yeah'

Considering gibson owns epiphone, I just see it as a way for them to have a mid range $500 dollar les paul without having to put gibson on the headstock. Les Paul is on the headstock, Lester Polsfuss himself has allowed for the named to be used with epiphone so I'm gonna go with that its the real deal. I think that it has every right to be called a les paul just as much as a MIM Fender can be called a strat.
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#2
Yes. Epiphone is owned by Gibson and epiphone uses Gibson's designs, but with cheaper materials. Not that it makes it any less of a guitar, it just might not sound the same as a Gibson.
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#3
Quote by IdiotWind
I think that it has every right to be called a les paul just as much as a MIM Fender can be called a strat.
I think a better analogy would be to a Squier Strat.

Either way, I say yes. They use the same design as the Gibson, just with cheaper materials and foreign labor.
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cause some people dont have a couple grand layin around to pick one up?
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#6
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#7
MIM Fenders are good, Squier's suck
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#8
Quote by IdiotWind
Les Paul is on the headstock, Lester Polsfuss himself has allowed for the named to be used with epiphone so I'm gonna go with that its the real deal.


Um, the guy who the Les Paul is named for is Les Paul.

But, to contribute... yeah it's a Les Paul. Like you said, Les Paul is printed on the headstock. That's what the company calls it. They can call it whatever they want, that's what it is.
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#9
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why settle for less?


The wallet is a painful place to get hit, and it gets hit WAY harder with the 'authentic' Gibson name.

Just another classic Epi vs. Gibson/Price vs. extended quality bout (because epi's do sound pretty sweet).
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Quote by E V H 5150
Um, the guy who the Les Paul is named for is Les Paul.


Les Paul is just his stage name.

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#13
lmfao "Squier Strat"

all they were thinking was "we can't put stratocaster on this piece o' ****, our american stratocaster sales with drop!"
#14
Quote by E V H 5150
Um, the guy who the Les Paul is named for is Les Paul.

But, to contribute... yeah it's a Les Paul. Like you said, Les Paul is printed on the headstock. That's what the company calls it. They can call it whatever they want, that's what it is.


I used the name that is on his birth certificate
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#15
Quote by E V H 5150
Um, the guy who the Les Paul is named for is Les Paul.

You're aware people take different stage names?

You think slash was born slash? Or axl rose was born axl rose?
#16
Quote by merfsullivan
You're aware people take different stage names?

You think slash was born slash? Or axl rose was born axl rose?


I am aware of stage names and pen names and the sort. I was unaware of this particular stage name. I stand corrected...
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#17
les paul describes a shape, not a guitar company.

Edit: I know les paul is a guy too...
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Quote by merfsullivan
You're aware people take different stage names?

You think slash was born slash? Or axl rose was born axl rose?


You know The letters of AXL ROSE can Be re-arranges to make ORAL SEX
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You know The letters of AXL ROSE can Be re-arranges to make ORAL SEX

No, i didnt, but that's an awesome trivia fact!
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No, i didnt, but that's an awesome trivia fact!

It's my awkward silence maker fact.
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#21
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You know The letters of AXL ROSE can Be re-arranges to make ORAL SEX

That's kinda creepy.
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#23
I say they are Les Pauls. I also say the the TS made this to make himself feel better about himself considering he has an Epi Paul.
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#25
I didn't make it to make myself feel better about my purchase as I knew that a gibson is superior when I made my purchase. I'm broke as crap so gibson is out of my financial reach. I just knew that for the price it was a quality instrument that fitted my style of playing. my next purchase is going to be a MIM telecaster.

I've owned my standard since may and couldn't be happier with the $450 I spent.
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#26
Quote by Scream And Fly
No. A real Les Paul is made by Gibson, and is USA made. Call me old-fashioned, but that's the way I feel. I do not consider anything that comes from Korea, Japan, or China a Les Paul.

This is pretty much how I feel, just without the xenophobic tint.

JK, but seriously. I don't disrespect the manufacturing in these countries, but I believe the real LP is a Gibson product from Nashville, TN.

For those who don't have enough money for the real deal, I'd say just go for another style, as I feel the Epi LPs are slightly knockoffish. I wouldn't compromise quality, just as I wouldn't want a lower end Gibson LP because the quality is iffy. And now they chamber them which is stupid.

A while ago I'd probably be a big Gibson guy, but my '61 reissue SG is probably the latest Gibson I'll ever own.
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#28
Real Les Paul's are made by Gibson, period. Epi's are nice, but they don't really come close.
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#30
Bottom Line: It doesn't matter.

Is an Epiphone Les Paul really a Les Paul? Yes, it says so right on the headstock. If the guitar is ****ty, however, then its still a ****ty guitar, and the fact that it is a Les Paul doesn't change a thing.

With that said, I am actually quite impressed with the more recent Epiphone Les Pauls that have been produced. The wood quality and overall construction have been stepped up considerably since the old days of mahogany mixed with alder and spotty quality control. And although I would certainly take a Gibson Custom over any Epiphone Les Paul any day, I would honestly take an Epiphone Les Paul Standard over a Gibson Les Paul Studio (unless I could take the Gibby Studio and sell it--in which case I would take the money and buy an Elitist LP or look for a used Gibby Standard).
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#31
I consider it a copy honestly, not that it's a bad guitar or anything.
#33
To be honest a real Les Paul is by Gibson just like a real strat is from Fender.

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#34
**** no dude, it dosent even feel like a guitar. the pups will always be low, the wood is twice as heavey as a normal guitar and the frets no mater what will no matter be synched in tune. no matter how well you fitz with the tune-o-matic. i just run back to my schecter omen6 with ****ty ass invaders on it. (my brother ownes the les)
#36
You weirdo's. (Not trying to be offensive)

Between the top of the line epi and a LP standard, there'd be minuscule to no difference between Epi and Gibby LPs. The only difference is: Epi is made by cheap Asian labor and gibby is made by expensive American labor which demand more pay. And the logo's.

If an epi costs $600 bucks around 200 bucks is pay for workers.

If a Gibby costs $1800 around 800- 900 bucks is worker pay.
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#37
(I am just stationed in Seoul fyi) but when it comes to guitars defiantly US > Asia [some MIJ come close] but Asia defiantly got it in some other fields. Look at cars, all the imports are more fuel efficient.

When you say LP... I automatically think Gibson. There are plenty of guitars that look alike it but they have different names for a reason. EPI put LP on theres so its a LP also. I put LP on a damn bottle and its a LP now.

I hate to be all anti-American and **** but I already did my part with this country. But I wouldn't go as far to say that American labor is just so much more damn superior than everyone else's.
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#38
Quote by justinrobbins7
The wallet is a painful place to get hit, and it gets hit WAY harder with the 'authentic' Gibson name.

Just another classic Epi vs. Gibson/Price vs. extended quality bout (because epi's do sound pretty sweet).


Try buying used, I got a Gibson SG in great condition for $750 from Guitar Center's used section online.
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To the AXL ROSE mix around guy...

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#40
Quote by cruc1a7


I hate to be all anti-American and **** but I already did my part with this country. But I wouldn't go as far to say that American labor is just so much more damn superior than everyone else's.


As with just about everything...it depends on the labor and who is doing the labor at that particular point in time.

Even some fine company hand crafted custom guitars can sometimes be "duds" because the guy (or girl, dont wanna be sexist ) had a bad day or something.

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