#1
Okay so I can get this amp used for $330. It would be a step up for me from my Roland Cube 15x. I play metal mostly, would this amp be good for that? And by metal I mean Parkway Drive, As I Lay Dying, All that Remain, ect. Pretty hard stuff. I know its 100w tube (DAMN!) and its not the BEST tube amp ever but the price seems right. What do you all think?
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#2
A lot of people say it doesn't have enough gain for metal, others say it does. Try it out.

However, I'd probably suggest a Randall RG50TC for you instead.
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#3
don't bump after 1/2 hour, really.

But you can do better then the valveking.
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#4
I tried one out at a music den near me once, it sounded great...however, i find the people at music den to be hard asses at times, and they wouldn't even let me put the amp up at all, so I couldn't really experiment with the sound as much, but from what I played, I think its a pretty solid amp.
#6
Yeah that's not bad, if you have some extra cash you could pick up a good OD pedal and it'll be able to do it no problem.
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#7
What distortion pedal would you recommend? I want some good distortion for this amp.
Rhythm Harmony Melody
#8
IF you get urself a hot OD petal you can make it sound almost
like a big boy peavey. You will get the core tone, but you wont
get any of the dynamic response though. They are not the best choice for metal.

I like classic rock and blues so i got one for that setup. They can
Do metal just fine, but its that 80's type "metal" (Fast hard rock) sound.
You aren't gonna get that insane harmonic response that you may be looking
for.

If you refer to *TOOL* or *Bullet for My Valentine* as metal...you can do it.

*Black Label Society*..*Iron Maiden*..and anything equivalent or harder
will be beyond your grasp.

I use a HK Warp Factor with my 212 combo and I can pull off low gain 5150 cover
songs. If you want really hardcore metal don't go with this amp. You can actually find
solid state amps with more harmonic response. I know metal aint all about harmonics but I'm referring to harmonics as the entire package...not just pinch harmonics..but all ungodly wails and feedback combinations of sound that u can think of.

This amp plays classic rock and blues beautifully....but for some serious metal...
Don't buy an amp that you have to dress up with pedals. You need to buy an
amp that satisfies your ear while it stands alone.

One cool thing about the VK is that is does Tom Morello covers beautifully..
I bet Charlie Brown's teacher's name was Mrs.Hammett
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#9
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If you refer to *TOOL* or *Bullet for My Valentine* as metal...you can do it.

*Black Label Society*..*Iron Maiden*..and anything equivalent or harder
will be beyond your grasp.

Wait... What?

Tool and Bullet for My Valentine are significantly heavier sounding than Black Label Society and Iron Maiden...
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#10
Bullet for my valentine uses pretty straight forward tones. They may
do a pinch harmonic here and there...and do some sick bends...but they
don't mess with feed back and really insane gain effects that much.
Their Harmonics can be done on the lowest strings with a natural harmonic
bend...so you dont need alotta of gain for that.

TooL is one of the greatest bands of all....but they use a pretty straight
forward tone as well. At times they can be the master of feedback ..
but you can get way with their covers without it. I say this because
they just have that rhythmic groove to their music. That makes the
feedback effects not essential...because they are not there enough to
make it a significant part of their sound. If you cover one of their songs
that uses the feedback effect ..its not gonna ruin anybody's nite
if u dont have it in there. Feedback doesn't define them.


Black Label Society and Iron Maiden require amps that have greater
dynamics in the gain department and picking response. You need more
power to do their cover songs closely.

Bullet for my Valentine may have lower tunings than Iron Maiden and they
may hit like a truck...but to play Iron maiden you need many more techniques.
A weaker amp will limit those techniques. Iron Maiden solos use harmonic's,
natural and pinches..feedback..picking dynamics LH and RH techniques
and these are areas where the VK doesnt have enough horsepower.

A band may tune lower and sound meaner...but it has nothing to do with the
techniques they use. There are alot of great metal bands out today that play
basic scales for solos as fast as they can. That sounds great...but you cant
compare that player to a player that uses left and right hand techniques
to create a full spectrum of sound.

I love BFMV...but if you compare their solos to Iron Maiden..they sound one dimensional. Its actually just generic overdriven ultra fast scale licks
I bet Charlie Brown's teacher's name was Mrs.Hammett
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